Bad for i7-4770K to be idling at ~140F (60C)?

[jkl2k2]

My overclocked i7-4770K idles at at around 120-150F at 7% load. Under load, I've seen it go to 160F. Is this bad for it? I've heard that the max recommended temperature is 150F (67C).

The overclocking is handled by Lenovo OneKey Overclocking, so I didn't do it manually.

EDIT: stressed it in CPU-Z. Here's max temps http://i.imgur.com/3sRcEab.png

[Arya]

Цитата допису Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

I'd recommend replacing the oven.. I mean case.

Hopefully, it isn't a proprietary motherboard design with non-standard standoffs. If it is, then you'd have to get a whole new motherboard as well just to switch cases.

At least it would run better.

Thankfully that wouldn't cost much money, maybe $70 for a nice case with good ventillation and then another $60-100 for a top spec motherboard. Worst comes to worst, it's only a $200 spend that would transform his gaming experience.

[just.kamk /idle]

Цитата допису Mr. Cat:

The lowest I can downclock is about 3.6 GHZ since I'm unable to bypass that Lenovo overclocking program. I can turn it off with that ugly "OVERCLOCK" button on my case, but it only reaches a minimum of 3.6 GHZ after that.

Checked your Windows energy settings yet?
(should be on balanced)

[jkl2k2]

Цитата допису kamk:

Цитата допису Mr. Cat:

The lowest I can downclock is about 3.6 GHZ since I'm unable to bypass that Lenovo overclocking program. I can turn it off with that ugly "OVERCLOCK" button on my case, but it only reaches a minimum of 3.6 GHZ after that.

Checked your Windows energy settings yet?
(should be on balanced)

It was on high performance. I set it to balanced, but I don't see much of a difference. http://i.imgur.com/cz7HHec.png

[just.kamk /idle]

Цитата допису Mr. Cat:

Цитата допису kamk:

Checked your Windows energy settings yet?
(should be on balanced)

It was on high performance. I set it to balanced, but I don't see much of a difference. http://i.imgur.com/cz7HHec.png

You idle around in the 30s, max of 60. Perfectly fine temperatures for your CPU.

But your CPU is still not downclocking according to HWMonitor, which is a bit weird, but not harmful. Might wanna close all background programs, and just use the task manager to see if it downclocks as it should. Some program may force high performance.
Also: go to power options > balanced profile "change plan settings" > "change advanced power settings" > "processor power management" (minimum should be on default value of 5%).
If that didn't do the trick, then check the BIOS and / or reset it to defaults.

[jkl2k2]

Цитата допису kamk:

Цитата допису Mr. Cat:

It was on high performance. I set it to balanced, but I don't see much of a difference. http://i.imgur.com/cz7HHec.png

You idle around in the 30s, max of 60. Perfectly fine temperatures for your CPU.

But your CPU is still not downclocking according to HWMonitor, which is a bit weird, but not harmful. Might wanna close all background programs, and just use the task manager to see if it downclocks as it should. Some program may force high performance.
Also: go to power options > balanced profile "change plan settings" > "change advanced power settings" > "processor power management" (should be on default value of 5%).
If that didn't do the trick, then check the BIOS and / or reset it to defaults.

Do these settings look right? http://i.imgur.com/1kQ5p4e.png

There's only 2 background processes that I don't want to have running. Even then, they only use 0.1% of the CPU, and only use it every 5 seconds.

[just.kamk /idle]

Yup, that's the default.

See the other steps above, to remove the lack of downclocking. Either way, your temps are absolutely fine - nothing to worry about.

Цитата допису Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

Where do you get that his idle temps are 30c? Because of the min temp on the left? That is simply the lowest temp that the program picked up, which could have been at OS startup. This would point even more towards an inefficient cooling setup.

You can clearly see on the right in that screenshot that he is at a mere 11 percent usage (idle/light usage) and he is at 60c. All signs point to poor cooling.

He posted a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/cz7HHec.png
On the left you can see the current value for CPU temp.

Considering the CPU is on idle, but not downclocked, the few degrees more do add up.
The RT temps are odd indeed.

[Revelene]

Цитата допису kamk:

Цитата допису Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

Where do you get that his idle temps are 30c? Because of the min temp on the left? That is simply the lowest temp that the program picked up, which could have been at OS startup. This would point even more towards an inefficient cooling setup.

You can clearly see on the right in that screenshot that he is at a mere 11 percent usage (idle/light usage) and he is at 60c. All signs point to poor cooling.

He posted a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/cz7HHec.png
On the left you can see the current value for CPU temp.

Considering the CPU is on idle, but not downclocked, the few degrees more do add up.
The RT temps are odd indeed.

I redacted that post (and another), as there was some oddities...

The current value for the CPU temp, in that screenshot, was 51c. This was the temp at 11 percent idle. Not 60c and not a full usage.... well, according to RealTemp.

According to HWMonitor, idle temps are around 30c and max was around 60c.

Honestly, this is looking like a mere incorrect value reading from RealTemp.

[just.kamk /idle]

Where do you see 51°C?
HWID reports 36°C for the full package, and max of 60.
Realtemp reports the same max. In another screenshot he has some cool 0°C in RT as minimum, so one might assume RT is derping out here, but who knows.

The power settings affect the CPU stepping, that's the other "problem".

[jkl2k2]

Цитата допису kamk:

In another screenshot he has some cool 0°C in RT as minimum, so one might assume RT is derping out here, but who knows.

I accidentally messed up the TJ Max values, which changed the way the temperatures were being read. It suddenly claimed I was at some super cold temperature before I switched it back.

[Revelene]

Цитата допису kamk:

Where do you see 51°C?
HWID reports 36°C for the full package, and max of 60.
Realtemp reports the same max. In another screenshot he has some cool 0°C in RT as minimum, so one might assume RT is derping out here, but who knows.

The power settings affect the CPU stepping, that's the other "problem".

51c (124F) on RealTemp, lowest core temp. Look at the current temps on RealTemp. Something is not right with the readings from that application.

0c? I didn't see that one. Yeah, safe to assume that RealTemp is not reading his temps correctly for some reason.

[jkl2k2]

Here's a screenshot of the stress test after about 10 minutes http://i.imgur.com/pXJl4ce.png

I noticed that the number score thing on CPU-Z would at times spike/dip from 1900 to almost 4000.

The CPU only stayed at about 80% according to RealTemp (assuming it was correct) and I had the Lenovo overclocking "disabled".

[Revelene]

Цитата допису Mr. Cat:

Here's a screenshot of the stress test after about 10 minutes http://i.imgur.com/pXJl4ce.png

I noticed that the number score thing on CPU-Z would at times spike/dip from 1900 to almost 4000.

The CPU only stayed at about 80% according to RealTemp (assuming it was correct).

The bench from CPU-Z is not very stressful. Use something like AIDA64.

[just.kamk /idle]

Цитата допису Mr. Cat:

Цитата допису kamk:

In another screenshot he has some cool 0°C in RT as minimum, so one might assume RT is derping out here, but who knows.

I accidentally messed up the TJ Max values, which changed the way the temperatures were being read. It suddenly claimed I was at some super cold temperature before I switched it back.

As i said earlier: "everything is fine"
Don't screw around with offset values, and then wonder why the readout is wrong :P

The CPU-Z stress test is stressful enough to get a feeling, so... still everything fine.

[jkl2k2]

Stressed with AIDA64 http://i.imgur.com/mw2b8mJ.png

The fan was fixed at 1334 RPM. Never went down never went up. It's now idling at 1274 RPM. It's very quiet IRL. It doesn't seem like it's working very hard...

[[☥] - CJ -]

Цитата допису Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

Цитата допису kamk:

He posted a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/cz7HHec.png
On the left you can see the current value for CPU temp.

Considering the CPU is on idle, but not downclocked, the few degrees more do add up.
The RT temps are odd indeed.

I redacted that post (and another), as there was some oddities...

The current value for the CPU temp, in that screenshot, was 51c. This was the temp at 11 percent idle. Not 60c and not a full usage.... well, according to RealTemp.

According to HWMonitor, idle temps are around 30c and max was around 60c.

Honestly, this is looking like a mere incorrect value reading from RealTemp.

This

Cat, that last screen shot, the temps are fine.
theres nothing to worry about