i9 9900k vs i9 10900k

[Frey]

Is it worth to upgrade from i9 9900k to i9 10900k ?
I play only game

[r.linder]

Absolutely not.

[Frey]

switching from i5 9600K to i9 9900k has boosted many games for about +25fps....maybe it will be the same with the new i9 10900K.

but for this CPU, it needs new motherboard.
Or do I need to wait for the i9 11900K ?

[xSOSxHawkens]

No, its not worth it and wont be the same.

[Autumn_]

It won't provide you much difference.
You'll be getting 2c4t more, which games WON'T use. And the clockspeeds will remain the same.
So you're paying for a useless upgrade.

It's better to just overclock your CPU (if you haven't already), and save your money for a new GPU upgrade.
Then you'll see an improvement in performance.

The 10900K will need a new socket, so you would have to upgrade CPU.
It could potentially use DDR5, so that's another expense.

I personally wouldn't bother with a CPU upgrade, you've already got the best CPU on the market (for gaming.)
Why upgrade to anything for the next few years?

[Frey]

when will I have to upgrade my CPU ?

[nullable]

Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

when will I have to upgrade my CPU ?

When your current CPU doesn't meet your performance needs and it is clearly the impediment to your performance goals. When will that be? Ask me when you get there.

[Autumn_]

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Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

when will I have to upgrade my CPU ?

When your current CPU doesn't meet your performance needs and it is clearly the impediment to your performance goals. When will that be? Ask me when you get there.

This.

[Frey]

Publicado originalmente por Brockenstein:

Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

when will I have to upgrade my CPU ?

When your current CPU doesn't meet your performance needs and it is clearly the impediment to your performance goals. When will that be? Ask me when you get there.

but I play at 1440p and I need the highest framerate possible.
Yeah I will wait for a new GPU first...but I think I wil upgrade with the i9 11900K.

[r.linder]

Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

Publicado originalmente por Brockenstein:

When your current CPU doesn't meet your performance needs and it is clearly the impediment to your performance goals. When will that be? Ask me when you get there.

but I play at 1440p and I need the highest framerate possible.
Yeah I will wait a new GPU before a new CPU...but I think I wil upgrade with the i9 11900K.

No you don't. Highest possible framerate is a pointless want that you'll never reach, it's far from necessary, and that blind mindset is the type of mindset that anti-consumer corporations like Intel love.

Lower resolutions like 1080p allow for more FPS; if you wanted maximum FPS, you'd be at 1080p. 1440p and 4K are for quality, not raw performance.

By the way, the 9900K and 10900K don't appear to be directly compatible because it appears that 10 series CPUs (not HEDT, they remain compatible with X299 as they're not actually the same) use socket LGA1200, and not LGA1151 that current standard desktop CPUs from Intel use.

[Frey]

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Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

but I play at 1440p and I need the highest framerate possible.
Yeah I will wait a new GPU before a new CPU...but I think I wil upgrade with the i9 11900K.

No you don't. Highest possible framerate is a pointless want that you'll never reach, it's far from necessary, and that blind mindset is the type of mindset that anti-consumer corporations like Intel love.

Lower resolutions like 1080p allow for more FPS; if you wanted maximum FPS, you'd be at 1080p. 1440p and 4K are for quality, not raw performance.

By the way, the 9900K and 10900K don't appear to be directly compatible because it appears that 10 series CPUs (not HEDT, they remain compatible with X299 as they're not actually the same) use socket LGA1200, and not LGA1151 that current standard desktop CPUs from Intel use.

I understand, but just about perf, do you think I will have a better framerate with the i9 10900K ?

[Snow]

Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

I understand, but just about perf, do you think I will have a better framerate with the i9 10900K ?

Since 9600k only had 4% performance advantage over 8600k, and that's pretty much what Intel do every generation - you sure might have slightly better framerate. Only I don't get why do you need higher framerate, 9900K already gives you more than enough.

[r.linder]

Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

Publicado originalmente por Escorve:

No you don't. Highest possible framerate is a pointless want that you'll never reach, it's far from necessary, and that blind mindset is the type of mindset that anti-consumer corporations like Intel love.

Lower resolutions like 1080p allow for more FPS; if you wanted maximum FPS, you'd be at 1080p. 1440p and 4K are for quality, not raw performance.

By the way, the 9900K and 10900K don't appear to be directly compatible because it appears that 10 series CPUs (not HEDT, they remain compatible with X299 as they're not actually the same) use socket LGA1200, and not LGA1151 that current standard desktop CPUs from Intel use.

I understand, but just about perf, do you think I will have a better framerate with the i9 10900K ?

Surely, but it's not worth it because you'll have to change your motherboard in addition, it's not worth it. You already have one of the best CPUs available, leave it alone.

Intel claims big gains with this new architecture, but it's probably BS.

[Frey]

Publicado originalmente por Snow:

Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

I understand, but just about perf, do you think I will have a better framerate with the i9 10900K ?

Since 9600k only had 4% performance advantage over 8600k, and that's pretty much what Intel do every generation - you sure might have slightly better framerate. Only I don't get why do you need higher framerate, 9900K already gives you more than enough.

some UE4 games are really CPU demanding, and if i have +10% or 30% it can be good.

[Snow]

Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

some UE4 games are really CPU demanding, and if i have +10% or 30% it can be good.

Weird, as from all I know UE4 is awesomely optimised and runs on pretty much everything.
Expect 5%, 7% tops.

[Autumn_]

Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

Publicado originalmente por Brockenstein:

When your current CPU doesn't meet your performance needs and it is clearly the impediment to your performance goals. When will that be? Ask me when you get there.

but I play at 1440p and I need the highest framerate possible.
Yeah I will wait for a new GPU first...but I think I wil upgrade with the i9 11900K.

So, you need a 999Yhz monitor, and a framerate to match? (Yes, I did say that correctly, Yhz, Yottahertz - 999,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000hz.)

That's simply a pointless goal.
The only real FPS you need, before you start to lose the ability to see anymore, is about ~200FPS.
And that's possible on the i9-9900k already.
The limit would be the GPU, not being able to render enough frames.

Publicado originalmente por Snow:

Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

I understand, but just about perf, do you think I will have a better framerate with the i9 10900K ?

Since 9600k only had 4% performance advantage over 8600k, and that's pretty much what Intel do every generation - you sure might have slightly better framerate. Only I don't get why do you need higher framerate, 9900K already gives you more than enough.

Keep in mind, they're going to do 14nm++++(+++++++) again this year, for the 10th gen. So you'd see a very slight improvement, just like all their other processors.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/4028vs3502
Look at their 'overclocked bench' (Both CPUs being around ~5ghz area) - ~8% improvement for 3 generations on single core performance.
That's tragic.

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Publicado originalmente por KolysioN™:

I understand, but just about perf, do you think I will have a better framerate with the i9 10900K ?

Surely, but it's not worth it because you'll have to change your motherboard in addition, it's not worth it. You already have one of the best CPUs available, leave it alone.

Intel claims big gains with this new architecture, but it's probably BS.

I don't expect that much of an improvement.
Though, acording to GN, they're going to be much cooler. Because the thermal interfaces are going to be MUCH thinner, again, I doubt it'd have much impact, but it's nothing to upgrade for.