Intel Core I7 9700k or I9?

[Tendeza]

Im building a new pc and I'm not sure for which one I wanna go. Is the extra money worth for the I9, or should I go for the I7.

The specs of my pc:
RTX 2080
16gb RAM
Asus ROG Strix Z390-E motherboard

[Autumn_]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kurumi Tokisaki:

Opprinnelig skrevet av hawkeye:

Short answer - i9 if you have the funds. Maybe not worth it now, but will be over time.

But this is what you should consider -

10th gen intels are strongly rumoured to be released 30 April.
faster than 9th gen
i7-10 will be faster than i9-9 at gaming
new mobo but no news as to whether z390 will be compatible
maybe 40 pcie lanes as in 10th gen laptops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXHGvcS5h_o

tomshardware recommends buying the next level cpu rather than overclocking and the cpu with the highest frequency and current generation.

But do not pair a strong cpu with a weak gpu.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-buying-guide,5643.html

a 2080 is going to bottleneck both the i7 and i9 at all resolutions;
so more or less you should be buying a cpu for nvidia's 3000 series;
large speed improvements are expected with the 3000's, plus DisplayPort 2 higher bandwidth;
nviidia are supposedly waiting for amd to release navi, so who knows when 3000's will arrive

as the 2080ti and 2080 bottleneck cpus, the fps performance difference bwtween amd cpus and intel cpus isn't large at the moment
but there is a significant gap in maximum performance, whether it will be ever realisable is the question
amd is also due to release new cpus, when who knows
these could be a lot better due to technical design improvements e.g. if infinity fabric and chiplets are phased out

In summary, it's a tricky situation.
Long term, a "better than 2080ti" gpu and i9-10900k with ddr4-3600 or better would be one setup.
Or 2080 and i7-9 or i7-10.

sorry? but 2080 ti doesn't bottleneck CPUs... neither does TITAN RTX... TITAN RTX is the bottleneck in my system with a HEDT processor still.

GPU bottleneck doesn't exist, it doesn't impact the performance of anything else, so it can't be.
But, we'll call it (being the limiting factor) a bottleneck.

You can have a GPU bottleneck on pretty much any system.
Crank up settings, resolution, DSR, you name it, if it goes up, put it up.

Though, under normal uses, it depends on the game/engine.
You're mostly going to be GPU 'bottlenecked.'
If your GPU usage is 99%, it's 'bottlenecking.'

Though, you're using an RTX Titan at 1080p. So pretty much any CPU will bottleneck at that point. (Becuase of the FPS you'd be getting.)

[mimizukari]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Autumn:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kurumi Tokisaki:

sorry? but 2080 ti doesn't bottleneck CPUs... neither does TITAN RTX... TITAN RTX is the bottleneck in my system with a HEDT processor still.

GPU bottleneck doesn't exist, it doesn't impact the performance of anything else, so it can't be.
But, we'll call it (being the limiting factor) a bottleneck.

You can have a GPU bottleneck on pretty much any system.
Crank up settings, resolution, DSR, you name it, if it goes up, put it up.

Though, under normal uses, it depends on the game/engine.
You're mostly going to be GPU 'bottlenecked.'
If your GPU usage is 99%, it's 'bottlenecking.'

Though, you're using an RTX Titan at 1080p. So pretty much any CPU will bottleneck at that point. (Becuase of the FPS you'd be getting.)

you heavily underestimate modern games... borderlands 3, rdr2, fallout 76 all use 100% TITAN RTX at 1080p, but only like 40% CPU max.

[r.linder]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kurumi Tokisaki:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Autumn:

GPU bottleneck doesn't exist, it doesn't impact the performance of anything else, so it can't be.
But, we'll call it (being the limiting factor) a bottleneck.

You can have a GPU bottleneck on pretty much any system.
Crank up settings, resolution, DSR, you name it, if it goes up, put it up.

Though, under normal uses, it depends on the game/engine.
You're mostly going to be GPU 'bottlenecked.'
If your GPU usage is 99%, it's 'bottlenecking.'

Though, you're using an RTX Titan at 1080p. So pretty much any CPU will bottleneck at that point. (Becuase of the FPS you'd be getting.)

you heavily underestimate modern games... borderlands 3, rdr2, fallout 76 all use 100% TITAN RTX at 1080p, but only like 40% CPU max.

Only 40% CPU usage because you have a 10C/20T CPU, when the games listed only use 4 cores, hence the maximum of 40%. CPU usage will never actually hit 100% with just one game running and focused.

There's still a "bottleneck" because there always is, especially between a 10900X and Titan RTX at 1080p (which is a hilarious waste when it's a damn workstation card with 4K gaming capabilities). If you get a more powerful CPU, you'll get more frames.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kurumi Tokisaki:

fallout 76

Disgusting. I don't understand why anyone can actually like that dumpster fire that turned its back on what the series is supposed to be.

[r.linder]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Rafin265:

Opprinnelig skrevet av meh:

9900k is 8 core with HT. Basically the same as the 3700x but with higher clocks and a considerably more expensive price tag (at this time, for me at least). For raw gaming power the 9700k, but even they are well overpriced compared to the 3700x right now.

Also you need a decent aio liquid cooler to reach higher clocks with the 9700k or 9900k adding even more cost. But the 3700x would run just fine with the included stock cooler.

Ryzen is similar to Intel in that regard though, because Precision Boost allows the CPU to boost for longer periods of time with sufficient cooling, and AutoOC will increase voltage to squeeze out higher clocks. When used together, it brings out Ryzen's full OC potential and requires more than stock cooling to maintain because it's almost entirely based on temperature.

[DeadPhoenix]

Wait until New platform comes out. And see if its worth the upgrade or not.

[bifeme7628]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Tendeza:

Im building a new pc and I'm not sure for which one I wanna go. Is the extra money worth for the I9, or should I go for the I7.

The specs of my pc:
RTX 2080
16gb RAM
Asus ROG Strix Z390-E motherboard

i7. i5 should serve you fine. Most games are unoptimized. Play DOOM eternal for an example of what an optimized game actually plays like, you can hit 60 fps on rigs from 10 years ago.

[Poor Bastard]

Get the 9900K. The hyperthreading is worth it. It probably won't make much a difference in gaming but for tasks that use all available threads like video encoding, it will make a big difference. Even if you just game, the 9900K will retain it's value better for when you want to sell it.