Xbox Series X vs equivalent PC

[Chrispy]

I got bored and decided to go on PC part picker and come up with this:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PRgsjp

The parts might not be fully compatible as it was all thrown together in about 5 minutes. I just built this out of curiosity. I tried to pick the cheapest options available for the parts included although maybe a few costs could be cut here and there. I didn't include a controller as I understand some people wouldn't consider that a necessity. That being said, the overall cost right now comes to almost £1600!

Can somebody please explain to my why someone would build this for gaming when a console just as powerful will be available for about 1/3rd the price by the end of year? I can't see the price of PC components dropping that much within 9 months. I am well aware of the advantages PC gaming offers (I play primarily on PC) but does that really justify all the extra money? It might also be worth mentioning that 5 years from now the PC would probably struggle to run games to the same standard as the Xbox.

Rather than upgrade my PC it might just be cheaper to by a console lol. This has been bugging me for a while now so I'd be interested to hear what you guys think.

[_I_]

the ps3/4 are much more complicated than ps2 and i highly doubt they would make the ps5 backward compatible enough to play those titles
(the launch 80g backward compatable ps3 had ps2 hardware in it)

similar story with xbone (it can play some x360 titles, but needs to download a version designed for the console, used the disc as a cd/dvd key)

[Snow]

引用自 _I_：

the ps3/4 are much more complicated than ps2 and i highly doubt they would make the ps5 backward compatible enough to play those titles

PS3 - yeah, absolutely. But PS4 is just a usual AMD laptop with few differences here and there, making PS5 play PS4 games should require no effort.

[wenken [ITA]]

You could save 130 with a cheaper case and a free copy of win10.

this said, console games are heavily optimazed. the series x is no way as powerful as a pc with a 2080 and ryzen 7 3700x.
and you can do soo much more with a pc.

[wenken [ITA]]

引用自 _I_：

af aa take more gpu, turn those down

$800 laptop is average/entry gaming laptop, you can build a much better desktop for that price

good gaming laptops are $1000+

for 800 you could build a 1440p 60fps high settings desktop pc.

[wenken [ITA]]

Console will always outperform PCs at the same price point, but PCs have many advantages. you can do much mroe thigns on PC than yo ucan on console. consoles sure have their place, and gaming pcs will aways have theirs, too.
i'm planning on building a 700euros PC this summer, and even thought the series x will outperform it by much, pc has just too many advantages that i need:
- you can use a pc for anything, a console only for gaming/yt/netflix
- i mainly play tf2 and csgo. can't fin them on console.
- i prefer mouse and kboard to controllers, they're more accurate and controllable.

this said, to each their own. you wanna a console? geti it

[_I_]

引用自 wenken：

引用自 _I_：

af aa take more gpu, turn those down

$800 laptop is average/entry gaming laptop, you can build a much better desktop for that price

good gaming laptops are $1000+

for 800 you could build a 1440p 60fps high settings desktop pc.

much better than the $800 laptop

[wenken [ITA]]

引用自 _I_：

引用自 wenken：

for 800 you could build a 1440p 60fps high settings desktop pc.

much better than the $800 laptop

yea

[浪子仙迹]

lol

[nullable]

引用自 Napoleonic S：

The new consoles are more than 4x stronger than the previous Gen on all metrics, somehow you want to believe they're going to struggle.

Struggle to meet the PR departments aggressive claims? Absolutely, because that's the name of the game.

That's the disconnect some of you seem to be having. Because the new console has more power doesn't mean it becomes more difficult to for the PR department to make questionable claims and exaggerated claim? That what they say and what you imagine isn't quite the same thing, and they know it, but are very careful to tantalize your imagination with the possibilities...

That's been the status quo for decades, it's different in 2020 because the hardware looks good on paper and there's no way reality could be misrepresented or the truth stretched just a little bit?

All I'm saying is history teaches us a lot, and there's a pretty clear pattern between what's stated before a console is released and the reality afterward and very seldom is that seamless. I don't think that's changed in 2020.

[Napoleonic S]

引用自 Brockenstein：

引用自 Napoleonic S：

The new consoles are more than 4x stronger than the previous Gen on all metrics, somehow you want to believe they're going to struggle.

Struggle to meet the PR departments aggressive claims? Absolutely, because that's the name of the game.

That's the disconnect some of you seem to be having. Because the new console has more power doesn't mean it becomes more difficult to for the PR department to make questionable claims and exaggerated claim? That what they say and what you imagine isn't quite the same thing, and they know it, but are very careful to tantalize your imagination with the possibilities...

That's been the status quo for decades, it's different in 2020 because the hardware looks good on paper and there's no way reality could be misrepresented or the truth stretched just a little bit?

All I'm saying is history teaches us a lot, and there's a pretty clear pattern between what's stated before a console is released and the reality afterward and very seldom is that seamless. I don't think that's changed in 2020.

You keep babbling about history yet neglect the reality of the specs...

[Ad Hominem]

The point is that it's important to realize that the hardware company and console manufacturer has a vested interest in getting people hyped about their new release. And it's important to withhold judgement until we actually see the hardware in our own hands and can run it for ourselves to see what it can do.

[_I_]

^ this

best to wait for reviews and compare how it performs to pcs

[Snow]

New consoles are way more powerful than previous ones, which is a fact and how it always was.
But we have no performance tests so far, so can't tell how exactly powerful they are.
Digital Foundry tests and comparisons are what I personally am waiting for. Not that I'd buy any modern console anyway, but I want to see consoles having decent hardware. PS4 and XO were a joke.

[Napoleonic S]

引用自 Ad Hominem：

The point is that it's important to realize that the hardware company and console manufacturer has a vested interest in getting people hyped about their new release. And it's important to withhold judgement until we actually see the hardware in our own hands and can run it for ourselves to see what it can do.

That's not how pc enthusiasts behave lol, we often knew how well hardware would perform before release.

Also there's the software side of things... This is not the 90s and early 2000s anymore... Rendering tricks are abundant everywhere, since the current gen consoles we have things like checkerboard rendering, image reconstruction, DLSS etc...

And about history thing that you keep babbling about? Have you tried using CPU like the jaguar in the current Gen consoles? Do you have any idea on how weak they are? Yet using such antiquated cpu consoles can run games with amazing graphics, a pc with that kind of cpu paired with 2080ti would struggle maintaining 1080p 60 fps.

Jaguar was worse than the failed FX line amd cpu and when zen 1 was released, the IPC leap from FX to ryzen was like 50%, and then for zen 2 we had another 13% or something IPC increase.

So for consoles, the IPC increase alone from jaguar to zen 2 would be close to 100% that's still not counting clockspeed differences, and software optimizations... And as I said before, rendering tricks and tech.

Your downplaying of the reality suggest you know little about computing hardware.

[nullable]

You've literally been able to say that about every generation of console... hence history repeats. You think this generation is special, an exception? Well good luck.