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But 3000 series Threadrippers are different, what i have seen in the benchmarks, it's either equal or sometimes even better than normal Ryzen.
The problem is that the 3960X performs worse in some cases than the 3950X, but it costs almost twice as much. The 3970X costs as much as a complete high end gaming rig, well over twice as much as a 3950X, but it's not much better. Won't even bring up the 3990X.
It's entirely pointless to buy Threadripper if you're not going to use it for workloads that'll actually make good use of the massive amount of cores. Getting a 12-core CPU for solely gaming is wasteful, and getting 24+ core CPU designed specifically for creation, instead for the sake of solely gaming, is one of the dumbest mistakes a builder can make.
At least 90% of games don't even use more than 4 threads, and the ones that go above that won't use more than 6~8. The case of longevity is entirely moot because by time games start even using 12 cores, current 12 core chips like the 3900X will very likely be on the same level as or weaker than 6 core chips in the future in single and multi threaded performance. We already see that with the Ryzen 5 3600 versus the Ryzen 7 2700X, as the 3600 beats the 2700X in almost everything, only falling behind when 8 cores actually matter. I wouldn't be surprised if a 6 core Ryzen 3 in a few years would be close to the 3950X in gaming performance.
More expensive =/= always better
Going above a 3900x or 3950x is probably going to hurt gaming performance. Although gaming at 4k isn't very hard on CPUs in general, some people are still using FX-8350x for gaming at 4k because the GPU is such a massive bottleneck at 4k. So going into the TR realm is probably going to be a net negative in gaming performance. I guess you just have to pick which one you want to prioritize, flexing or performance.
yes i know Threadripper is not good for value perspective. I was just comparing the performance.
This OP has unlimited cash. He is buying a PC case worth $500-$600.
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/1874000825168385308/?tscn=1584740239
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if that's the case then just buy the 3990x and call it a day. ♥♥♥♥ it, why not?
Disregarding the obvious quip, whether or not he can afford it doesn't mean he should buy it. Just because you can buy it, doesn't mean you should mindlessly throw your money at it.
Not a good trade off, and it's something that these kinds of buyers need to realise before they spend twice as much for next to nothing in what the system will be used for.
To add on:
For instance, if you're a pure gamer and don't stream, getting a 8 core CPU like a 9900K or a 3800X makes more sense than a 3950X, in which you won't use the other 8 in that 16.
Also, if you buy a Threadripper, unless you're using more than 16 cores, like in Virtual Machines, requiring large file PCIe work like large file transfers for e.g. You're just wasting money.
It's also like buying a fully upgraded Mac Pro 2019/2020 and expecting it to perform well in literally everything, when a much cheaper maxed out Gaming rig beats it in terms of pure gaming.
Again, it's not about which want is the best or expensive but the right tool for the job.
Doing things like 3d rendering scales nearly linearly with more cores. Video editing apparently can make use of extra threads too.
How intensive is streaming like OP is talking about? Would it really eat up 16 threads worth of CPU to stream to 3 different services and record a local copy? Assuming gaming can use the other 12 or 16 threads which is completely unrealistic.
Absolutely doesn't need more than a 3800X or 9900K.
That I am not too sure. But usually if you worry about high usage or lower frame rate on your main PC, then it will be better to get a separate, dedicated PC for streaming rather than using a Threadripper.