Ryzen 7 2700x Temps

[Dakuwan]

My new rig during heavy gaming loads(Example, Farcry 5 4k/ultra ~54fps) is giving me temp spikes of 88c on my processor. I know via AMDS website that max temp for the CPU is 85c. During these heavy loads its averaging between 73-78c.

These are spikes, not prolonged readings. Hell i cannot even find them usually in the GPU-Z timeline.

Are temperature spikes like this OK, or should I be concerned?

I am using CORE TEMP for max temp spike readings, GPU-z for overall temp readings and I can see the spikes every few minutes and MSI After Burner+RTSS for ingame monitoring.

No OC.


Ryzen 7 2700x / wraith cooler

MSI B450 Max Mobo

Gigabyte Aorus RX 5700 XT

Corsair vengence pro RGB 2x16 32gb mem

Corsair RM 750 power

5+ fans

[Omega]

Spikes are nothing to worry about, the CPU temp spinking when it starts doing something is normal. If it stays around that temperate range and the CPU is throttling you should worry about it.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Unless the cpu is thermal throttling it's fine given the cooler you're using. And you'd know when it throttles cause the clock would dip down low automatically and performance will be greatly effected. The OS might even blue screen if it happens for too long.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Check if the CPU cooling fan is working properly, or may be a thermal paste issue. Or may be faulty CPU. There is no way a 8c/16t CPU can reach 85c in normal gaming. Because no games can even use 50% the 2700x CPU. Temps should be below 60c all time.

[AbedsBrother]

Something's off. I have a Ryzen 7 2700 (3.9Ghz all cores, Wraith Spire cooler) and it doesn't run that hot under regular use - around 35C at idle, 50-60C when gaming, 77C when fully loaded on all cores / threads.

I'd suspect the thermal paste. Try replacing it.

[Dakuwan]

While seating the cooler, I had difficulty in securing the latches on the cooler mount around the socket. When I flipped the securing latch it felt like I was forcing it and it didnt feel good. So I left it the way it was.

I was able to lift the mobo via the cooler and it didnt feel loose or wobbly.

Is it possible that its not seated properly?

[Autumn_]

Originally posted by ⎛⎝ Cloud Boy ⎠⎞:

Check if the CPU cooling fan is working properly, or may be a thermal paste issue. Or may be faulty CPU. There is no way a 8c/16t CPU can reach 85c in normal gaming. Because no games can even use 50% the 2700x CPU. Temps should be below 60c all time.

Usage doesn't dictate thermal output.
You can easily make a CPU ♥♥♥♥ itself thermally if you turn the voltage up, since thermal output is measured in watts - Watts is caluclated by multiplying voltage by current, so, for example; CPU is running at FIXED 1.35V and is pulling 77A the CPU would output AROUND 105w of heat; which is what the 2700x is rated for.
If you turn up the voltage by 0.05V, and you pull the same 77A, you will get AROUND 110w of heat. (And if you turned it up by another 0.05V, and pulled 77A, you would get AROUND 115W of heat.
This does nothing for the performance, and increases heat; then we can get into thermal transference, thermal density, efficency of the TIM, etc, etc. But that would be a long post.

It IS possible for a CPU with 8 cores and 12 threads to reach 85c. Just like it's possible for a CPU with 4 cores and 8 threads to reach 85c. (Just look at the i7-7700k, or 8700k.)

Though, I do agree with check the cooler and thermal paste, it's always good to be sure, worse case you waste less than a gram or 2 of thermal paste.

Originally posted by Omega:

Spikes are nothing to worry about, the CPU temp spinking when it starts doing something is normal. If it stays around that temperate range and the CPU is throttling you should worry about it.

This though; loads change, current and voltage are constantly changing, and ♥♥♥♥ power delivery can lead to Vdroop, so the motherboard changes the voltage to a higher value, to compensate, which would produce more heat; and with the stock cooler, it makes sense that you'd see short jumps in thermals.
The only way you could really stop that is using a fixed voltage.
Though, honestly, if it's for a split second, it's not going to cause any issues.

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

Something's off. I have a Ryzen 7 2700 (3.9Ghz all cores, Wraith Spire cooler) and it doesn't run that hot under regular use - around 35C at idle, 50-60C when gaming, 77C when fully loaded on all cores / threads.

I'd suspect the thermal paste. Try replacing it.

If you've changed any voltage settings, or use a motherboard with better power delivery, then you're going to have a different experience.
But his numbers aren't much different from yours; ~75c loaded, with the odd reading of 85c thrown in there, that doesn't seem to odd to me. Though no harm in checking if it worries him.

Originally posted by Dakuwan:

While seating the cooler, I had difficulty in securing the latches on the cooler mount around the socket. When I flipped the securing latch it felt like I was forcing it and it didnt feel good. So I left it the way it was.

I was able to lift the mobo via the cooler and it didnt feel loose or wobbly.

Is it possible that its not seated properly?

If you twist it slightly, does it move?
And, I'm not familiar with the exact process of the mounting for AMD coolers, but I'd check to make sure it is mounted properly.
Also, there's a little plastic tab, covering stock coolers paste, you did remove that?

[Dakuwan]

The cooler had no tab over the paste. Even saw the paste covering the cpu when I reseated it.

[AbedsBrother]

Originally posted by Autumn:

Originally posted by AbedsBrother:

Something's off. I have a Ryzen 7 2700 (3.9Ghz all cores, Wraith Spire cooler) and it doesn't run that hot under regular use - around 35C at idle, 50-60C when gaming, 77C when fully loaded on all cores / threads.

I'd suspect the thermal paste. Try replacing it.

If you've changed any voltage settings, or use a motherboard with better power delivery, then you're going to have a different experience.
But his numbers aren't much different from yours; ~75c loaded, with the odd reading of 85c thrown in there, that doesn't seem to odd to me. Though no harm in checking if it worries him.

Spiking to 88C while averaging 73-78C during a heavy gaming session is very different from the temps I said I experience while gaming. There is no game I've seen that consistently loads all cores / threads of a Ryzen 7 to 99%, so the "fully loaded" temp figure was for reference - not because I actually achieve that status while gaming. Which is why I said I get between 50-60C while gaming. Most recent game I finished was Assassin's Creed Odyssey, which is notorious for its demand on the cpu.

So, yeah, his numbers are very different from mine.

Originally posted by Dakuwan:

While seating the cooler, I had difficulty in securing the latches on the cooler mount around the socket. When I flipped the securing latch it felt like I was forcing it and it didnt feel good. So I left it the way it was.

I was able to lift the mobo via the cooler and it didnt feel loose or wobbly.

Is it possible that its not seated properly?

What do you mean "left it the way it was"? You didn't properly secure the cooler? You don't need to be the Hulk, but it's supposed to take a small effort to secure the latch.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

make sure the cooler is actually touching the CPU firmly

[Bad 💀 Motha]

^ This fasten the securing clip fully otherwise the cooling won't work as intended.

[Dakuwan]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

^ This fasten the securing clip fully otherwise the cooling won't work as intended.

It felt like i was gonna break it when trying to swing the securing latch around 180 degrees into what I thought was the locked position. Is this normal for a wraith cooler mount to require a decent amount of force to secure? Does it sound like something was misaligned?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

All the stock of the amd coolers are that way. Same as it is on FM2/AM3

[Dakuwan]

Thanks for the advice everyone, I finally got enough courage to investigate. Prior to fiddling with it I watched a video or two of Ryzen 7 2700x installs and saw that there was this compression spring loaded plate beneath the ax shaped plastic lever that engaged the cooler to the cpu socket frame.

This was enough to inspire me to try again along with your advice. The lever engaged properly.

It went well im getting at least 5c cooler temps now, down to even 26c where 34 was normal for idle.

Thank you all so very much.

*UPDATE*
Temps during 4k ultra ~54fps DOWN from 98c max to 64C!!!
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