Athlon 200GE w/ Radeon HD 7750

[The forgotten one]

I'm looking to buy the Athlon and pair it with the HD 7750. Yes, I know this combo ain't gonna run the latest game, but I'm gonna play older games like BF3 anyway. I'm sure as hell not gonna use the Vega 3 IGPU so I can spend less on RAM. Is it worth it?
CPU: Athlon 200GE (60$)
GPU: HIS Radeon HD 7750 (18$)
RAM: 8GB Single Channel DDR4 (33$)
MOBO: BioStar A320HM (33$)

[Omega]

Sure it will do for a ultra-budget system. The Athlon will not work with a 300 series motherboard if the BIOS isn't updated, so get a 400 series board.

I highly recommend you to spend more on the motherboard so you can more easily and cheaply upgrade to better components in the future. I recommend the B450 DS3H.

[The forgotten one]

Originally posted by Omega:

Sure it will do for a ultra-budget system. The Athlon will not work with a 300 series motherboard if the BIOS isn't updated, so get a 400 series board.

I highly recommend you to spend more on the motherboard so you can more easily and cheaply upgrade to better components in the future. I recommend the B450 DS3H.

Well, I'm on a really low budget here so I really can't afford anything higher than that. Also will the Athlon bottleneck the Radeon?

[Omega]

Originally posted by Kill 'em All!:

Originally posted by Omega:

Sure it will do for a ultra-budget system. The Athlon will not work with a 300 series motherboard if the BIOS isn't updated, so get a 400 series board.

I highly recommend you to spend more on the motherboard so you can more easily and cheaply upgrade to better components in the future. I recommend the B450 DS3H.

Well, I'm on a really low budget here so I really can't afford anything higher than that. Also will the Athlon bottleneck the Radeon?

The Athlon will bottleneck any GPU in many modern games because it's not powerful enough to run modern games.

[Talby]

maybe best to grab an old refurb like the Dell Optiplex 7010 w/ Core i5-3470 3.2ghz 8GB[www.ebay.com] $110 then throw in whatever gpu you can get

[The forgotten one]

Originally posted by Talby:

maybe best to grab an old refurb like the Dell Optiplex 7010 w/ Core i5-3470 3.2ghz 8GB[www.ebay.com] $110 then throw in whatever gpu you can get

Sorry, but I'm not gonna buy Intel stuffs.

Originally posted by Omega:

Originally posted by Kill 'em All!:

Well, I'm on a really low budget here so I really can't afford anything higher than that. Also will the Athlon bottleneck the Radeon?

The Athlon will bottleneck any GPU in many modern games because it's not powerful enough to run modern games.

But will it do so in older games like BF3? I have the same Radeon and the Athlon II x2 245 and it only bottlenecks in CPU heavy games like BF3, and even then it was like 60% GPU and 100% CPU. Hell, will the Radeon bottleneck the CPU instead?

[Omega]

Originally posted by Kill 'em All!:

Originally posted by Omega:

The Athlon will bottleneck any GPU in many modern games because it's not powerful enough to run modern games.

But will it do so in older games like BF3? I have the same Radeon and the Athlon II x2 245 and it only bottlenecks in CPU heavy games like BF3, and even then it was like 60% GPU and 100% CPU. Hell, will the Radeon bottleneck the CPU instead?

It will be fine in older games.

We played Battlefield 3 on CPUs with half as much processing power as the Athlon.

[rezo]

Originally posted by Kill 'em All!:

Originally posted by Talby:

maybe best to grab an old refurb like the Dell Optiplex 7010 w/ Core i5-3470 3.2ghz 8GB[www.ebay.com] $110 then throw in whatever gpu you can get

Sorry, but I'm not gonna buy Intel stuffs.

Why wont you buy intel?

[Snow]

Why won't you aim for 2200G then? It's both a better CPU than 200GE and better GPU than 7750.

[rezo]

2200G is 40% faster than the 200GE and 20% faster than the 7750... Plus it opens the possibility of getting a faster gpu later on.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Snow:

Why won't you aim for 2200G then? It's both a better CPU than 200GE and better GPU than 7750.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-iGPU-vs-AMD-HD-7750/m441833vsm7709

1. 2200G and using the Vega 8 iGPU would give much better performance with fast RAM. (i.e. DDR4-3000 CL15 Corsair Vengeance LPX would be ideal)

2. The cheapest AM4 board that would be worthwhile is the ASRock B450 PRO4. Nothing cheaper than that.

3. A320 chipset doesn't allow for overclocking which can severely lower the usefulness of a Ryzen CPU when it starts to fall behind future CPUs as there's no way for it to "catch up" without an overclock.

4. If OP can't afford a 2200G, a cheap B450 board, and a decent kit of RAM like I suggested, he shouldn't be building a PC because he won't get anything good for what he's looking to spend when it comes to gaming. The parts I mentioned are entry-level for gaming; anything less is not going to cut it for long, if at all.

[Talby]

Originally posted by rezo:

2200G is 40% faster than the 200GE and 20% faster than the 7750... Plus it opens the possibility of getting a faster gpu later on.

agree a true quad or better would be best, AFAIK in BF3 you get into the high multiplayer maps the cpu takes quite a hit...

[The forgotten one]

Originally posted by Talby:

Originally posted by rezo:

2200G is 40% faster than the 200GE and 20% faster than the 7750... Plus it opens the possibility of getting a faster gpu later on.

agree a true quad or better would be best, AFAIK in BF3 you get into the high multiplayer maps the cpu takes quite a hit...

Originally posted by Snow:

Why won't you aim for 2200G then? It's both a better CPU than 200GE and better GPU than 7750.

I'm on a tight budget here, sorry.

Originally posted by Escorve:

Originally posted by Snow:

Why won't you aim for 2200G then? It's both a better CPU than 200GE and better GPU than 7750.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-iGPU-vs-AMD-HD-7750/m441833vsm7709

1. 2200G and using the Vega 8 iGPU would give much better performance with fast RAM. (i.e. DDR4-3000 CL15 Corsair Vengeance LPX would be ideal)

2. The cheapest AM4 board that would be worthwhile is the ASRock B450 PRO4. Nothing cheaper than that.

3. A320 chipset doesn't allow for overclocking which can severely lower the usefulness of a Ryzen CPU when it starts to fall behind future CPUs as there's no way for it to "catch up" without an overclock.

4. If OP can't afford a 2200G, a cheap B450 board, and a decent kit of RAM like I suggested, he shouldn't be building a PC because he won't get anything good for what he's looking to spend when it comes to gaming. The parts I mentioned are entry-level for gaming; anything less is not going to cut it for long, if at all.

Yes, I understand that the Vega 8 is much stronger than the 7750. But entry-level parts are enough for me.

[Snow]

Originally posted by Kill 'em All!:

Originally posted by Talby:

agree a true quad or better would be best, AFAIK in BF3 you get into the high multiplayer maps the cpu takes quite a hit...

Originally posted by Snow:

Why won't you aim for 2200G then? It's both a better CPU than 200GE and better GPU than 7750.

I'm on a tight budget here, sorry.

But that's just 20$ difference compared to 200GE+7750 combo and a big improvement, you really want to try to save some money for 2200G. 200GE was never meant to be a gaming CPU, it's for building multimedia centers in little boxes and stuff like that. It's even got less performance than my 8 years old i5-2500, I don't want you to play half of your games with 30 fps lock.

[upcoast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnF7Cehtehg

Putting it into perspective. ^

Long an short of it is both your GPU and 200GE pick ain't gonna do what you want.

I played BF3 great on my old FX8350/R9 280x but what you want to do has disaster written all over it.

https://www.techspot.com/review/458-battlefield-3-performance/page5.html

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Kill 'em All!:

Originally posted by Talby:

agree a true quad or better would be best, AFAIK in BF3 you get into the high multiplayer maps the cpu takes quite a hit...

Originally posted by Snow:

Why won't you aim for 2200G then? It's both a better CPU than 200GE and better GPU than 7750.

I'm on a tight budget here, sorry.

Originally posted by Escorve:

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-iGPU-vs-AMD-HD-7750/m441833vsm7709

1. 2200G and using the Vega 8 iGPU would give much better performance with fast RAM. (i.e. DDR4-3000 CL15 Corsair Vengeance LPX would be ideal)

2. The cheapest AM4 board that would be worthwhile is the ASRock B450 PRO4. Nothing cheaper than that.

3. A320 chipset doesn't allow for overclocking which can severely lower the usefulness of a Ryzen CPU when it starts to fall behind future CPUs as there's no way for it to "catch up" without an overclock.

4. If OP can't afford a 2200G, a cheap B450 board, and a decent kit of RAM like I suggested, he shouldn't be building a PC because he won't get anything good for what he's looking to spend when it comes to gaming. The parts I mentioned are entry-level for gaming; anything less is not going to cut it for long, if at all.

Yes, I understand that the Vega 8 is much stronger than the 7750. But entry-level parts are enough for me.

200GE and 7750 are NOT entry level gaming, they are below that. 200GE is extremely ultra budget, not entry level, and when an iGPU can destroy a dedicated GPU, that's not even close to entry level.

You'll be sorely disappointed because the performance value for what you're going for is not going to be great. You're better off saving up for a 2200G like we suggested, or better. I wouldn't ever recommend going with barebones just because you don't want to wait and save up longer to afford something else, it's just stupid to do gradual changes because you end up wasting more money.