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TheRat62 2019 年 1 月 30 日 下午 6:45
IPS 1440p 144hz
Thinking of picking up a 27" monitor.
IPS, 1440p, 144hz w/ Gsync ideally.

I've heard that some of the more popular models with these specs are subject to bad backlight bleeding.
I'm wondering if this ruins the image enough to make purchasing the monitor unworthy. I've also heard that they can look blurry when things are moving in your game.

Is this true? Would anyone recommend a TN or VA panel over IPS or should I just ignore people's concerns and go for an IPS ?
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CursedPanther 2019 年 1 月 30 日 下午 7:07 
IPS panels are just more susceptible to suffer from backlight bleeding over the course of time in general regardless of the resolution and refresh rate and there is little anyone can do about it due to technological factors. However the color spectrum of IPS completely destroys that of a TN panel.

I bought a brand new 2K 144Hz IPS very recently actually. But then I visited a hardware store to check out their stock to make sure the backlight bleeding wasn't there on delivery(and also not getting sold some silly refurbished unit). I do understand a lot of the frustration comes from customers purchasing through online stores and received a somewhat defective product. Simply to go through all the replacement or RMA process is a big enough headache.
TheRat62 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 2:31 
引用自 CursedPanther
IPS panels are just more susceptible to suffer from backlight bleeding over the course of time in general regardless of the resolution and refresh rate and there is little anyone can do about it due to technological factors. However the color spectrum of IPS completely destroys that of a TN panel.

I bought a brand new 2K 144Hz IPS very recently actually. But then I visited a hardware store to check out their stock to make sure the backlight bleeding wasn't there on delivery(and also not getting sold some silly refurbished unit). I do understand a lot of the frustration comes from customers purchasing through online stores and received a somewhat defective product. Simply to go through all the replacement or RMA process is a big enough headache.


Well apparently the backlight bleeding is bad enough with them that even the brand new units ship with bad backlight bleeding right out of the box.

And apparently you see the backlight bleeding when you're sitting right dead center of the monitor but when you loook at the affected areas head on... they disappear.

Looking at a black screeen is the only time you'll blatantly notice these sections of backlight bleed but apparently when viewing a movie or watching a game, the areas affected by backlight bleed won't be producing accurate colors.

It just seems like such a shame to buy a monitor for it's amazing colors when all of these areas trhat are bleeding in the corners fo the monitor aren't even producing accurate colors.
EliteGamer 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 2:57 
Well, it all depends how “lucky” you get with IPS. I got lucky with my XB271HK and PG279Q, they’re perfect.

But yeah, IPS any day over TN. As good as my TN PG248Q looks for a TN monitor, it can’t compete with my IPS bad boys...
TheRat62 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 3:15 
I highly doubt that either of your monitors were bleed free as there is a video showing 20 PG279Q monitors being opened at once and not one of them was bleed free.

And you expedct me to believe that you just got lucky with both?

Spending this kind of money to take a gamble on whether you get a good monitor or not is complete crap.

Be smart, wait for them to fix their mess and release something of quality.

I'm not paying that kind of money for crap.
最後修改者:TheRat62; 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 3:16
EliteGamer 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 3:29 
You’ve got to have the money in the first place to spend it...

I did get lucky and I don’t care what you believe. You’re an *******.
最後修改者:EliteGamer; 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 3:37
Vulkan 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 4:05 
引用自 JohnnyGamer
I highly doubt that either of your monitors were bleed free as there is a video showing 20 PG279Q monitors being opened at once and not one of them was bleed free.

And you expedct me to believe that you just got lucky with both?

Spending this kind of money to take a gamble on whether you get a good monitor or not is complete crap.

Be smart, wait for them to fix their mess and release something of quality.

I'm not paying that kind of money for crap.
Might be a good idea not to insult people or call them out right liars when asking advice .
Phoenix 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 4:52 
IPS technology suffers from natural "IPS glow" effect, which many people confuse with backlight bleeding. Google it to find out more.
So, if you're a religious fan of "perfect black", IPS might not fit you well, even with normal backlight bleed. On the plus side there are great colors and view angle close to 180 degrees without color distortion.

As for motion blur, generally, IPS is considered slower than other types of panels in this regard. But there's no other way to to prove/disprove your concern than checking the display you have in mind with your own eyes. I don't see any problems with my current 1440p 144Hz panel, but your eyes might tell you otherwise. Plus, modern displays usually have some built-in algorithms/settings to reduce motion blur if you are affected by it. Those might help.
Andrius227 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 4:56 
I personally hate ips. Sure my only ips monitor is a cheap one (dont temember what model), but it doesnt look any better than my high end tn panel pg278q.

I do actually need a new monitor, but im tempted to just skip ips and go with quantum dot or whatever. Although they are currently super expensive.
EliteGamer 2019 年 1 月 31 日 上午 5:14 
引用自 Andrius227
I personally hate ips. Sure my only ips monitor is a cheap one (dont temember what model), but it doesnt look any better than my high end tn panel pg278q.

I do actually need a new monitor, but im tempted to just skip ips and go with quantum dot or whatever. Although they are currently super expensive.

You hate IPS? That's because you've got a cheap one.. Buy a quality one, like my PG279Q and you'll see how much better IPS looks to TN.

I've also got an high end TN monitor, PG248Q and I can easily see a massive difference between that and my IPS monitors, but I admit, for a TN monitor, it doesn't look bad if you're looking at it from the front. TN colours do look washed out compared to IPS and I certainly couldn't use TN outside of FPS gaming.

As for motion blur, I'm not 100% sure on that as I haven't used the PG248Q since I bought the PG279Q., so haven't done a side by side test, but it feels and looks pretty much the same. it certainly doesn't warrant getting a TN over an IPS if you can afford an IPS.
TheRat62 2019 年 1 月 31 日 下午 3:53 
引用自 Phoenix
IPS technology suffers from natural "IPS glow" effect, which many people confuse with backlight bleeding. Google it to find out more.
So, if you're a religious fan of "perfect black", IPS might not fit you well, even with normal backlight bleed. On the plus side there are great colors and view angle close to 180 degrees without color distortion.

As for motion blur, generally, IPS is considered slower than other types of panels in this regard. But there's no other way to to prove/disprove your concern than checking the display you have in mind with your own eyes. I don't see any problems with my current 1440p 144Hz panel, but your eyes might tell you otherwise. Plus, modern displays usually have some built-in algorithms/settings to reduce motion blur if you are affected by it. Those might help.


Yeah I was reading about the IPS monitors and their motion blur problem and that was the final straw for me. I'll use my 4k TV for gaming for now and unfortunately I'll just have to deal with lower performance.

I'm waiting till they come out with the monitor that has it all.

1ms, gsync, OLED, 1440p, 144-160hz


It just seems ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a monitor when you can't fully trust that your IPS monitor is going to be producing the fantastic colours that it is supposed toimprove because there is light bleeding through the monitor or "IPS glow".

ANd motion blur is one of the most atrocious graphical effects there is so if there was some motion blurring effect that is built into the monitor I know I would go completely insane.

I can wait. Something better will come along soon enough.

引用自 Andrius227
I personally hate ips. Sure my only ips monitor is a cheap one (dont temember what model), but it doesnt look any better than my high end tn panel pg278q.

I do actually need a new monitor, but im tempted to just skip ips and go with quantum dot or whatever. Although they are currently super expensive.


I saw the pg278qr vs. the pg279q in a side by side comparison and I have to admit the colours did look a lot better on the IPS version (pg279q).

And I know for a TN panel, that pg278qr is supposed to be very good and I'm sure it is.. but side by side with the IPS the IPS still looked noticeably better. The TN version had a pinkish hue to everything that was absent in the IPS.

But honestly, I still don't think IPS is worth it for the QC issues that they have. Too many bad reviews on them, too many people disappointed.

You shouldn't be that disappointed paying the kind of money we are paying for a 27" screen. It's just pathetic. The monitor should be flawless at that price.

Everything is becoming more and more of a ripoff because consumers are willing to pay for a pile of crap.

引用自 EliteGamer
引用自 Andrius227
I personally hate ips. Sure my only ips monitor is a cheap one (dont temember what model), but it doesnt look any better than my high end tn panel pg278q.

I do actually need a new monitor, but im tempted to just skip ips and go with quantum dot or whatever. Although they are currently super expensive.

You hate IPS? That's because you've got a cheap one.. Buy a quality one, like my PG279Q and you'll see how much better IPS looks to TN.

I've also got an high end TN monitor, PG248Q and I can easily see a massive difference between that and my IPS monitors, but I admit, for a TN monitor, it doesn't look bad if you're looking at it from the front. TN colours do look washed out compared to IPS and I certainly couldn't use TN outside of FPS gaming.

As for motion blur, I'm not 100% sure on that as I haven't used the PG248Q since I bought the PG279Q., so haven't done a side by side test, but it feels and looks pretty much the same. it certainly doesn't warrant getting a TN over an IPS if you can afford an IPS.


I've heard from multiple sources that the motion blur is very annoying on the PG279Q and as such I'm waiting for different technology that provides fantastic colours and low motion blurring.

If I want motion blur (which I never will) i'd turn it on in the graphical settings of whatever game I'm playing. I don'tm want to pay 1000$ for a monitor that's going to force motion blur on me.

What a shame.

I'm sorry I sound ♥♥♥♥♥♥ but I'm just getting mad typing about this. I'm sick of companies making crap.

There's always some sort of "drawback" in whatever high end stuff you buy these days. It used to be that when you payed top dollar for something you got something that was of pure quality.
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EliteGamer 2019 年 1 月 31 日 下午 5:13 
Like I said , It’s about “luck” when buying a IPS monitor and I’ve been lucky with both my IPS monitors. You get good and bad in anything.

The PG279Q is a fantastic monitor and worth every penny if you get a good one like I did, much better than any washed out TN monitor, that’s for damn sure. You can bring up TN 1ms G2G pointless crap if it makes you feel better, but like I said, I also have one of the best TN gaming monitors, PG248Q, 180hz 1ms and there’s no difference between that and the PG279Q when playing games with motion blur, all this motion blur crap you’re reading are from people with faulty monitors or just sad bitter jealous TN trolls who can’t afford IPS. Every high end product gets negative reviews by kids who can’t afford the best.... Amazon is full of reviews made by trolls who are bitter with something much worse than the “GOD” model....



TheRat62 2019 年 1 月 31 日 下午 5:33 
引用自 EliteGamer
Like I said , It’s about “luck” when buying a IPS monitor and I’ve been lucky with both my IPS monitors. You get good and bad in anything.

The PG279Q is a fantastic monitor and worth every penny if you get a good one like I did, much better than any washed out TN monitor, that’s for damn sure. You can bring up TN 1ms G2G pointless crap if it makes you feel better, but like I said, I also have one of the best TN gaming monitors, PG248Q, 180hz 1ms and there’s no difference between that and the PG279Q when playing games with motion blur, all this motion blur crap you’re reading are from people with faulty monitors or just sad bitter jealous TN trolls who can’t afford IPS. Every high end product gets negative reviews by kids who can’t afford the best.... Amazon is full of reviews made by trolls who are bitter with something much worse than the “GOD” model....


From what I understand there are no "good" PG279Q monitors> The ones that say they got a "good" one are the people that were willing to settle for backlight bleed.

I'd need photographic evidence from you to prove whether or not it has any backlight bleed. If you can't provide I'd say it's safe to assume you are lyring or in denial.

Again, the backlight bleed of that specific IPS monitor is unavoidable.

Just seems funny to me that every IPS quote on quote "fanboy" I come across all seem to say they seem to be "one of the lucky ones"

More like they're "one of the ones in denial"
最後修改者:TheRat62; 2019 年 1 月 31 日 下午 5:36
CursedPanther 2019 年 1 月 31 日 下午 6:02 
Just here to say that Asus isn't the only manufacturer that makes 2K 144Hz IPS monitors with GSync. Acer and AOC also make them apparently, not sure why everyone is so hung over the PG279Q.
EliteGamer 2019 年 1 月 31 日 下午 6:03 
You’re the one in denial. You’re obviously just like one of those jealous trolls who make those fake reviews talking utter crap because you can’t afford the good stuff.
TheRat62 2019 年 1 月 31 日 下午 6:46 
引用自 EliteGamer
You’re the one in denial. You’re obviously just like one of those jealous trolls who make those fake reviews talking utter crap because you can’t afford the good stuff.


Oh trust me, I can afford it.

I'm just not going to spend my money like a moron and I have the patience to wait until the technology is improved and we get a monitor with everything that I want... plus without the ridiculous blb issues.

TN - No thanks
VA - Not good enough
IPS - Looks good enough but has massive QC issues and horrible motion blur

I'm willing to bet they are hard at developing something that has the beautiful colors of the IPS displays, without the crap motion blur and blb issues.

Likely going to be OLED monitors that come to save the day.

And that day I'll be willing to spend my money.

I just don't support the purchasing of overpriced junk. It's nice that IPS have wonderful colours, but that doesn't mean that the monitors don't have other glaring issues.

I've heard stories of people trading in 10 IPS monitors trying "get a good one" before finally giving up on them. ASUS can suck my left nut if thats how they want to treat their customers.
最後修改者:TheRat62; 2019 年 1 月 31 日 下午 6:49
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