I go though way too many keyboards and mice.

[LouieH]

I tend to buy the cheap keyboards and mice off amazon, I'm now on my third set in like half a year, and I'm wondering if a more expensive keyboard and mouse would last longer as I need a new set since my mouse wont work, scroll wheel and MMB wont work.

[Talby]

Escrito originalmente por Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism:

...I wouldn't buy a Cherry MX style keyboard switch whatsoever, my A sometimes become unresponsive....

The Z77[www.amazon.com] has replaceable switches, and actually comes with 5 spares... Considering one myself and getting a pack of Gateron browns for it.

[Autumn_]

Escrito originalmente por Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism:

Yes it would definitely.
The cheapest mice may not even have a rating for their switches but before Logitech sometimes used the 5 million clicks Omron switches and then there's the better ones with 10 or 20 million clicks and the SteelSeries Rival 310 and Sensei 310 or whatever use the rated for 50 million clicks switches.

As for keyboards the Topre switches which is a mixture of the membranes and electrical switches has a life span of if it's 10 or possibly 20 million clicks wheres the no membrane Cherry MX and Alps switches are sold as having up to 50 million clicks, but there's new optical switches which brags about a 100 million click span.

The SteelSeries 310 mice may not be the best ones but you can find them for $30-35 sometimes. You can get chinese mechanical keyboards from $40 or such.
Gigabyte sell an optical one. Likely cost above $100.

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

Duckys are good and all but they cost ton.
You dont want to spend that much for a keyboard you'll break fast.

And reds are bad. Razer switches if you want goid "gaming switches", blues for anything and everything.
Reds are better than membrane. But theyre not nice to use.

"Razer switches" doesn't specify which switch, they use multiple ones.

I wouldn't buy a Cherry MX style keyboard switch whatsoever, my A sometimes become unresponsive. I'd try the optical ones.

G502 is a heavy mouse I think? I have the G203 but I'd likely prefer the Rival 310 over it if similar price.


https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Keyboard/AORUS-K9-Optical#kf

Well, Greens and Oranges are pretty much the same thing, just oranges are silent. And yellows are linear and take less to press, and travel a shorter distance to press.
Basically the only 2 you should consider are Greens and Oranges, and since they're pretty much the same, it doesn't even matter. Just clicky or silent, take your pick.

Escrito originalmente por Talby:

Escrito originalmente por Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism:

...I wouldn't buy a Cherry MX style keyboard switch whatsoever, my A sometimes become unresponsive....

The Z77[www.amazon.com] has replaceable switches, and actually comes with 5 spares... Considering one myself and getting a pack of Gateron browns for it.

Yeah, they're pretty cool, the amount of customisation you can do is insane.
(Different switches for different keys, or replacing a switch when it dies for pennies instead of taking ages to repair it, or buy a new one.)
Or if you just get bored of the switches, swap them out for something else for a fraction of the cost of a new keyboard.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/DREVO-Tyrfing-Mechanical-Keyboard-Tenkeyless/dp/B078GBVNQ5/ref=sr_1_42?ie=UTF8&qid=1549635955&sr=8-42&keywords=MX%2Bbrown%2Bkeyboard&th=1
My father has this board, and it's actually pretty good.
Seems really high quality, no bend or flex in the keyboard, raised hotswapable switches, decent RGB (if that's your thing.), and it's pretty cheap.
(It's using browns though, and I don't really like the feel of them, miles better than reds though lmao.)

[LouieH]

What do you guys think about the G602 Wireless Gaming Mouse, and G613 Wireless Mechanical Gaming Keyboard. I'm looking at a lot more money but if they are worth it...

[Talby]

it was rated the top wireless keyboard by PCG I would say if you want wireless go for it, and the G602 has been the go-to wireless budget gaming mouse for quite a few years - makes a very good wireless combo.

[LouieH]

Escrito originalmente por Talby:

it was rated the top wireless keyboard by PCG I would say if you want wireless go for it, and the G602 has been the go-to wireless budget gaming mouse for quite a few years - makes a very good wireless combo.

I bought the keyboard and upgraded to the 902 mouse, I got the pair for £160 which I had left over from my christmas pay in work.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Well mine is a CoolerMaster QuickFire TK+ with brown switches which I like the least of the three most popular ones.

However one tiny drop of tea onto the keyboard make it unusable for hours and the A key sometimes doesn't work making it impossible to strafe left when it happen and the keycaps on this specific keyboard has worn quite a bit from nails too and it's too light weight and move around and the rubber feet break.

I don't know how the optical keyboards feel but since they are supposed to last longer and one of the variants is splash proof I'd much prefer that. I assume the optical functionality of the switch is pretty unlikely to stop working now and then ..

As for the G602 is that one with poor responsiveness or not? I don't remember. Also there's sales now and then on this kind of stuff and the G602 is a bit old now isn't it? If you're not in a rush I assume you can find a good deal on some item if you are a bit flexible. Do the G602 have a lot of buttons and is that something you need/want?
What price difference between G602 and G703 and do the number of keys matter for you?

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Escrito originalmente por Talby:

it was rated the top wireless keyboard by PCG I would say if you want wireless go for it, and the G602 has been the go-to wireless budget gaming mouse for quite a few years - makes a very good wireless combo.

I bought the keyboard and upgraded to the 902 mouse, I got the pair for £160 which I had left over from my christmas pay in work.

Ok so already decided then. Seem like there is no G902 you mean the G903? It's pretty light weight and responsive and have a good sensor so likely all is good then. 50 million clicks too. So ... maybe it's fair to compare it's $100 price but against a $20 one if it only do 10 million ;D (then again the actual switches is cheap and can likely be upgraded if one is fine soldering them oneself, anyway a cheap mice will likely last less long than a one with good switches.)

[LouieH]

Yea I meant the 903 also pretty sure the set I has now was advertising about 40 thousand clicks, when I said I spent £20 that was for a set of keyboard, mouse and mouse pad... prehaps thats why it didn't last long.

[Ad Hominem]

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

And reds are bad. Razer switches if you want goid "gaming switches", blues for anything and everything.
Reds are better than membrane. But theyre not nice to use.

That's gonna be pretty subjective. I like browns more for the tactile detent but reds are quite nice imo. It depends on the individual though.

[Autumn_]

Escrito originalmente por Ad Hominem:

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

And reds are bad. Razer switches if you want goid "gaming switches", blues for anything and everything.
Reds are better than membrane. But theyre not nice to use.

That's gonna be pretty subjective. I like browns more for the tactile detent but reds are quite nice imo. It depends on the individual though.

Yeah, I know.

But I do have a question, Reds are marketed as 'gaming switches' but tactiles suit the role so much better.
>Bump to feel if you're going to press a key so no mistakes
>Slightly higher pressure to activate, but takes less distance to activate
>Satisfying click (Maybe some like it, maybe some don't, but that's why silents exist.)
And, if we're talking blues, they're cheaper than reds for some strange reason?
(Every keyboard I've seen with reds is really expensive compared to blues.)

So why are reds marketed as the ultimate gaming switch?

[Ad Hominem]

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

Escrito originalmente por Ad Hominem:

That's gonna be pretty subjective. I like browns more for the tactile detent but reds are quite nice imo. It depends on the individual though.

Yeah, I know.

But I do have a question, Reds are marketed as 'gaming switches' but tactiles suit the role so much better.
>Bump to feel if you're going to press a key so no mistakes
>Slightly higher pressure to activate, but takes less distance to activate
>Satisfying click (Maybe some like it, maybe some don't, but that's why silents exist.)
And, if we're talking blues, they're cheaper than reds for some strange reason?
(Every keyboard I've seen with reds is really expensive compared to blues.)

So why are reds marketed as the ultimate gaming switch?

Yea, not sure. Reds to me are kinda the general entry point to mechanical switches if you arent sure what you like. I personally like browns more but I couldn't get the Strafe 2 in RGB with browns, but I don't mind reds either. I do occasionally rest my fingers a little too heavy and accidentally press and hold a key which is annoying, since I don't have that bump to realize it.

I would think that reds are a safe entry point into mechanical for people who aren't sure, and that the majority of folks will like well enough, which is probably why they're so highly touted.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

go to goodwill pick up 3 cheap kbs and mice for $1 each

[LouieH]

Escrito originalmente por Gengkidesuka:

go to goodwill pick up 3 cheap kbs and mice for $1 each

No idea what a goodwill is

[Autumn_]

Escrito originalmente por LouieH:

Escrito originalmente por Gengkidesuka:

go to goodwill pick up 3 cheap kbs and mice for $1 each

No idea what a goodwill is

I think it's a charity shop?

[LouieH]

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

Escrito originalmente por LouieH:

No idea what a goodwill is

I think it's a charity shop?

Like oxfarm? Well most keyboards and mice they would sell, if any would be very... very used and old, their switches are most certainly nearing their end. The keyboard and mouse I bought on amazon, although also used, because It saved me like £70 have to be in decent condition or I can get my money back. They have both been described as damaged packaging, so I'm expecting the keyboard and mouse to be in good condition.

[Eshman]

I've had this generic Hp-branded mouse & keyboard combo for over 10+ years now. Besides cleaning it out once in a while I haven't had any problems with them whatsoever. I can type 85+ wpm and I've been typing for a couple decades. I s'pose it does help that I got them for free and had multiples of each at one point. So, I gave them away to clients over the years when they were using dead generic keyboards/mice. They are all still actually using the ones I provided them with. Who knew a company still makes something that actually functions well after all this time? Anyway, in case anyone is interested, the P/N's for mine are: KU-0316 for the keyboard & 390938-001 for the mouse.