BOT Casual 2020년 3월 2일 오후 6시 17분
Why is Acer gaming monitor so cheap?
I am looking for a gaming monitor and I wonder if it is worth to buy Acer, as a 165hz 0.1ms 23.6 FHD is much cheaper than a popular gaming monitor such as (Zowie's or Asus's 144hz 1ms 24 FHD). Why is that? Is any kind of extra feature thst Acer doesnt have?
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Autumn_ 2020년 3월 2일 오후 7시 04분 
What is the monitor model and what are you comparing it to?

Panel tech also matters, high refresh rate IPS panels are going to cost a LOAD more than TN panels.
Then you've got colour accuracy of panels of the same type, better colours add more price.
You've also got features, ''OC'' (usually a couple of Hz higher than 'stock' speed), Crosshair on the monitor, refresh rate being displayed on the panel, etc.

I'd just like to mention though, marketed response time is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. They take the fastest recorded pixel switch time under certain circumstances, so you're not going to get that under normal use.
It's usually going to be a bit longer, but so long as the AVERAGE pixel response time is below the time it takes for your monitor to refresh (16.66ms for 60hz, 8.33ms for 120hz, 6.99ms for 144hz, 6.06ms for 165hz, and 5ms for 200hz) you'll be fine, and won't notice any ghosting.


Though, I am going to say, if you're buying a monitor, don't buy for something you're 'matching' with your current hardware, buy it for future upgrades, and improvements. Buy something good that will make you happy.
Since you're going to look at it EVERY time you use your computer, why should you cheap out on it?
nullable 2020년 3월 2일 오후 7시 06분 
Well you might link to the products and prices... you know, for reference.
BOT Casual 2020년 3월 2일 오후 7시 20분 
my bad, here's the link

Acer:
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.0cLZm

Zowie's:
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.0c7LJ

thanks @Autumn for the info, currently i am just going through your comments, i will make sure i read it properly when i get back to home
nullable 2020년 3월 2일 오후 7시 47분 
https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/05c01c9a

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/3654daf



Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
What is the monitor model and what are you comparing it to?

Panel tech also matters, high refresh rate IPS panels are going to cost a LOAD more than TN panels.

In this case that's some of the mystery, the Acer is an IPS while the more expensive BenQ is a TN. I'm not sure why the Acer is significantly cheaper based on the specs. Could be something as simple as the price is wrong and there ought to be a 1 in front of that 669 RM. That would be a simple answer. But I've got no concrete explanation.
mtono 2020년 3월 2일 오후 8시 02분 
it is strange: i have an acer monitor which costs on the acer-website 599 $. i bought the thing for 149 € on amazon and i dont get it...how can it be that cheap?
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BOT Casual 2020년 3월 2일 오후 9시 10분 
Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
What is the monitor model and what are you comparing it to?

Panel tech also matters, high refresh rate IPS panels are going to cost a LOAD more than TN panels.
Then you've got colour accuracy of panels of the same type, better colours add more price.
You've also got features, ''OC'' (usually a couple of Hz higher than 'stock' speed), Crosshair on the monitor, refresh rate being displayed on the panel, etc.

I'd just like to mention though, marketed response time is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. They take the fastest recorded pixel switch time under certain circumstances, so you're not going to get that under normal use.
It's usually going to be a bit longer, but so long as the AVERAGE pixel response time is below the time it takes for your monitor to refresh (16.66ms for 60hz, 8.33ms for 120hz, 6.99ms for 144hz, 6.06ms for 165hz, and 5ms for 200hz) you'll be fine, and won't notice any ghosting.


Though, I am going to say, if you're buying a monitor, don't buy for something you're 'matching' with your current hardware, buy it for future upgrades, and improvements. Buy something good that will make you happy.
Since you're going to look at it EVERY time you use your computer, why should you cheap out on it?

I did some research, I dont know if the IPS is really important for gamer, they say IPS is when you change the degree and the color won't change like TN did. I am not sure if it is important to gamer, but I know it definitely will benefit for someone who use it to watch movie.

About the ms, they say just get "1"ms is enough. And I have no idea how many hz I should get, the game that allow me to reach 144+fps with no issue is csgo, overwatch, dota2 and pubg(lower a bit settings). but I play a lot csgo so I am thinking whether 144hz is enough for the "future". because the 360hz is annoucing?
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Autumn_ 2020년 3월 2일 오후 9시 34분 
Hatrick님이 먼저 게시:
Autumn님이 먼저 게시:
What is the monitor model and what are you comparing it to?

Panel tech also matters, high refresh rate IPS panels are going to cost a LOAD more than TN panels.
Then you've got colour accuracy of panels of the same type, better colours add more price.
You've also got features, ''OC'' (usually a couple of Hz higher than 'stock' speed), Crosshair on the monitor, refresh rate being displayed on the panel, etc.

I'd just like to mention though, marketed response time is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. They take the fastest recorded pixel switch time under certain circumstances, so you're not going to get that under normal use.
It's usually going to be a bit longer, but so long as the AVERAGE pixel response time is below the time it takes for your monitor to refresh (16.66ms for 60hz, 8.33ms for 120hz, 6.99ms for 144hz, 6.06ms for 165hz, and 5ms for 200hz) you'll be fine, and won't notice any ghosting.


Though, I am going to say, if you're buying a monitor, don't buy for something you're 'matching' with your current hardware, buy it for future upgrades, and improvements. Buy something good that will make you happy.
Since you're going to look at it EVERY time you use your computer, why should you cheap out on it?

I did some research, I dont know if the IPS is really important for gamer, they say IPS is when you change the degree and the color won't change like TN did. I am not sure if it is important to gamer, but I know it definitely will benefit for someone who use it to watch movie.

About the ms, they say just get "1"ms is enough. And I have no idea how many hz I should get, the game that allow me to reach 144+fps with no issue is csgo, overwatch, dota2 and pubg(lower a bit settings). but I play a lot csgo so I am thinking whether 144hz is enough for the "future". because the 360hz is annoucing?
Panel type, if you're a gamer, doesn't really matter much, unless you care enough about colours etc.
So, just pick what you fancy the most in regards to panel type, or just TN if you want the cheapest options.
[ TN - Bad/mediocre colours, good response times, bad viewing angles and contrast. VA - Good colours, bad response time, decent viewing angles, good contrast. IPS - Good colours, decent response time, great viewing angles, decent contrast. ]

As for the response time, my advice is to not worry to much about it unless you're buying VA. Because you're unlikely to get ghosting, but if you are concerned, look for reviews and see if they mention ghosting.

Refreshrate isn't quite as simple as 'higher = better', sure, high is good, but there is a point where it doesn't matter. It depends on your eyes, and actual biological limits of human eyes.
Most people don't really notice a difference of higher than 120-144hz. And the few that will are the extreme end of gaming (Pro-scene, and what not.)
So, just pick a 144hz monitor you'll be good to go.

I'd just like to add aswell, with refresh rate, you get deminishing returns;
The difference between 60hz and 120hz is 8.33ms less (per refresh), but the difference between 120hz and 240hz 4.16ms less (per refresh.)
So, the difference becomes less and less the higher it becomes.
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