Windows 8.1 vs Windows 7

[bunny]

These are my specs:
Processor: AMD A6-5200 APU with Radeon(TM) HD Graphics
Video card: AMD Radeon HD 8400 / R3 Series
RAM: 4.0 GB
Operating system: Windows 8.1

So, here's the thing, I've been searching for a long time which windows is the best for gaming and stuff and alot of people say it is windows 10 but my pc can't handle it because it is kinda old PC. So, I was reading some discussions about windows 8.1 vs windows 7 and I really cant decide which one is better, I am concidering downgrading my pc to windows 7 but I'm still not sure... So here's the question:
With these specs I have in the start of this discussion, what is best for my pc: Windows 7 or Windows 8.1?


(Btw my pc is from like 2013 I can't really remember but i hope this helps a bit).

Guys i tried windows 7 but it made no difference, so i think ill stick with windows 8.1... Thanks for helping me out! :)

[xSOSxHawkens]

引用自 pasa：

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

Mixed apps results does =/= slower OS.

The OS itself is faster and better. Some apps are *also* faster and better, some apps are the same, some are slower.

The argument you are making is a straw man one that applies in both directions. Some apps are slower on 7.

Fact is, the OS itself is faster. Apps dont define OS speed.

As I said before, people who ask questions here, and probably anywhere else are NOT interested in OS wars and abstract things like "which OS is faster". We use the OS just as a necessary PITA to launch the applications. And are ONLY interested in how those applications run.

So when asks a practical advice on performance please keep that in mind at answering. You're welcome to call W10 faster, just when you state that add the small clarification of "however your apps may be running slower". And that, in that way is useful information, while otherwise is misleading, and triggers a fruitless debate.

Look...

Noob asks question,

Option 1:

Windows 10 the the newer OS. It is faster at a basic level offering better resource managagment in both high and low resourve availability configurations. Ot offers a faster kernel for better fiel trancsfers, a better IP stack for better network speeds and lower overhead, and overall a better OS level enviroment. It is also activle updated and patched for vulnerabilites. Most all modern applications will run as fast or faster on windows 10, and in the near future many will require it as 7 is no longer supported. Some legacy appplications that are not programed around the windows 10 enviroment might perform slightly slower, or might have stability issues, as has always been the case with a newer OS. Due to all of the listed above, it seems reasonable that the pros outweigh the potential negatives of some legacy applications runing somewhat slower (potentially). We must also accept that some newer applications will run slower or not at all on a legacy window 7 system.


Option 2: Windows 10 is the faster OS. Period.

Is options 2 *technically* and *slightly* incorrect? Yes. To the level of understanding of a normal PC noob is it the better responce? Yes.

Why dont you seem to get this.

[pasa]

Option 3: state the actual facts, as the actual world knows it, and what answers the OPs problem:

"Application performance is more of a mixed bag, with tests showing Windows 10 to be faster than Windows 7 with some apps and slower with others"

Then he can do research on his actual apps or ask a more refined question.

Taking the question that literally is like gong Mike mode.

- Do you know what time it is?
- (looks at watch) Yes.
- Can you tell me what time it is?
- Yes.
- %$#%#$%#$

You already detected the noob-ness. How far is from that concluding the last thing he is interested in is the "speed of OS" in your terms? Instead of the speed of useful things he intends to run.

"Why dont you seem to get this."

[xSOSxHawkens]

引用自 pasa：

Option 3: state the actual facts, as the actual world knows it, and what answers the OPs problem:

"Application performance is more of a mixed bag, with tests showing Windows 10 to be faster than Windows 7 with some apps and slower with others"

Then he can do research on his actual apps or ask a more refined question.

Taking the question that literally is like gong Mike mode.

- Do you know what time it is?
- (looks at watch) Yes.
- Can you tell me what time it is?
- Yes.
- %$#%#$%#$

You already detected the noob-ness. How far is from that concluding the last thing he is interested in is the "speed of OS" in your terms? Instead of the speed of useful things he intends to run.

"Why dont you seem to get this."

If the speed of the OS is faster...

And the speed of the apps is a *WASH* (meaning roughly equal, as some are faster and SOME ARE SLOWER on 7)

Then you are faced with one part faster and one part equal.

That makes windows 10 faster.

You keep stating a non issue...

"Application performance is more of a mixed bag, with tests showing Windows 10 to be faster than Windows 7 with some apps and slower with others"

Litteraly means it was a wash. It was even, It was a tie. Both OS's did well and did bad. Neither was better.

If the OS itself *IS* better, and its app handling *IS* comparably equal then it is the better OS. Fact. Period.

Thats all the OP needs to know.

[pasa]

For theory it might be a "wash", considering *all* applications or an arbitrary subset, but fro practice it is not.

As people are not interested in applications they don't run. As soon as you substitute the "applications" with the set of actually used ones, the wash becomes the relevant data, actually the ONLY relevant data wrt the aim of the original question.

And if the OP is still around he may tell himself what is all he needs to know.

[xSOSxHawkens]

引用自 pasa：

For theory it might be a "wash", considering *all* applications or an arbitrary subset, but fro practice it is not.

As people are not interested in applications they don't run. As soon as you substitute the "applications" with the set of actually used ones, the wash becomes the relevant data, actually the ONLY relevant data wrt the aim of the original question.

And if the OP is still around he may tell himself what is all he needs to know.

in that case each and every one of us is wrong and the only correct responce (according to this logic) would be to ask him what apps he planned to use, then comile an average of performance for those apps across the OS's and see which offered the average faster performance

*THEN*

weigh that potential performance against:

Security (bad for 7)
UI Design (bad for 8)
Privacy/Telemtry (bad for 10).


For *most* users the far more simple, and just as easilly accurate (in terms of performance) answer is to just run 10.

[pasa]

Finally you get it. ;-)

[Red™]

This thread is a goldmine
Please don’t lock this mod

[[☥] - CJ -]

引用自 pasa：

引用自 xSOSxHawkens：

Mixed apps results does =/= slower OS.

The OS itself is faster and better. Some apps are *also* faster and better, some apps are the same, some are slower.

The argument you are making is a straw man one that applies in both directions. Some apps are slower on 7.

Fact is, the OS itself is faster. Apps dont define OS speed.

As I said before, people who ask questions here, and probably anywhere else are NOT interested in OS wars and abstract things like "which OS is faster". We use the OS just as a necessary PITA to launch the applications. And are ONLY interested in how those applications run.

So when asks a practical advice on performance please keep that in mind at answering. You're welcome to call W10 faster, just when you state that add the small clarification of "however your apps may be running slower". And that, in that way is useful information, while otherwise is misleading, and triggers a fruitless debate.

I'm not sure how long you have been active on this forum for as your name is not familiar, but MANY of us have been here for many years and most of what you're saying about what "We" discuss here is incorrect.

Win10 is faster than Win8 in all aspects
Thats a fact
How is it a fact? Personal experience and testing on a laptop setting among other experiences

Resource management is key and Win10 handles it better than Win8

Many aspects dictate how fast an OS will be from user to user, but the OS itself is one of them.

[pasa]

I did not debate any compare between W10 and W8 for a moment :). And was talking only W7 vs W10.

Also, what I say is definitely NOT incorrect, either in general or particular, if you disagree with something you have to go down and point it out. Just make sure you read it before jumping on a shadow.

[[☥] - CJ -]

引用自 pasa：

I did not debate any compare between W10 and W8 for a moment :). And was talking only W7 vs W10.

Win7, Win8
either one, Win10 is better
And Win7 continues to have Windows Update and Service pack problems, so Win10 wins in that area as well.

Win7 may not use many resources, but that doesnt mean its better as a whole.

[xSOSxHawkens]

引用自 ☥ - CJ -：

引用自 pasa：

As I said before, people who ask questions here, and probably anywhere else are NOT interested in OS wars and abstract things like "which OS is faster". We use the OS just as a necessary PITA to launch the applications. And are ONLY interested in how those applications run.

So when asks a practical advice on performance please keep that in mind at answering. You're welcome to call W10 faster, just when you state that add the small clarification of "however your apps may be running slower". And that, in that way is useful information, while otherwise is misleading, and triggers a fruitless debate.

I'm not sure how long you have been active on this forum for as your name is not familiar, but MANY of us have been here for many years and most of what you're saying about what "We" discuss here is incorrect.

Win10 is faster than Win8 in all aspects
Thats a fact
How is it a fact? Personal experience and testing on a laptop setting among other experiences

Resource management is key and Win10 handles it better than Win8

Many aspects dictate how fast an OS will be from user to user, but the OS itself is one of them.

Thank you. Was starting to feel a bit worried I was the only logical one left lol

[Nano]

引用自 Red™：

This thread is a goldmine
Please don’t lock this mod

I enjoy people thinking they know everything about a closed source OS by reading an article or two. It's quite fun so I agree with this person.

[Nano]

引用自 piru.JPG：

wow i just asked a question and now everyone is salty in here... what is going on with this community...

If a person doesn't think the way they do then they are wrong. That's usually it and they'll do anything to try and prove that they're correct and the other is wrong.

[胜亦有梦]

in my opinion windows 7 wins, because it is an operating system in which you have control of your computer, of course it is much less safe, but if you are not stupid and do not ruin your computer windows 7 is the best

[x_wing]

引用自 Omega：

32bit uses less RAM, but it's limited to only having access to 3GB of RAM. On some old or very low powered devices 32bit is the better option.

Sorry to cherry-pick this, but there is "but" in this case. 32 bit OS can actually access more than 4GB if the OS supports PAE. For Windows you have to enable it (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/memory/physical-address-extension) but for Linux almost all distros ships this feature activated.

To the OP: IMO Windows 10 is not an option for your system if you don't have an SSD. In my experience Windows disk I/O is complete garbage. I second Omega suggestion of trying one of the Linux distros he mentioned (but I suggest to start with Linux Mint). Of course, your hardware may require a little of tinkering for your games in order to work properly.... my two cents