3600x vs 9600k

[Ralf]

My FX8350 starts to show it's age, my computer is much slower in some simple tasks, my core 2 duo is performing better on basic tasks than my fx8350, even after many formats, using SSD.

Is this the difference between Intel and AMD? Will this be the same situation in the new Ryzen CPUs?

help me out :)

[Autumn_]

Another quality bait thread from Ralf, lmao.

[Talby]

Escrito originalmente por Ralf:

My FX8350 starts to show it's age, my computer is much slower in some simple tasks, my core 2 duo is performing better on basic tasks than my fx8350, even after many formats, using SSD.

Is this the difference between Intel and AMD? Will this be the same situation in the new Ryzen CPUs?

help me out :)

If you're near a Micro Center, the Ryzen 2600x for $80[www.microcenter.com], with a Gigabyte B450 AORUS M for $65[www.microcenter.com] is a very, very good bang-per-buck upgrade for your FX...

[emoticorpse]

Escrito originalmente por hawkeye:

Intel doesn't have any technical or security issues. If it did then it wouldn't be the cpu brand that just about every corporation uses in its desktops and servers.

So basically every news article about Intel cpu vulnerabilities is a lie.

[_I_]

moar threads and moar mhz isnt the answer to a better gaming cpu

fx had 8 threads at 4ghz
while the 2nd gen i5 was much better at games

it was time to upgrade fx at its release

[r.linder]

Right now it's always a choice between the 3600 (for its great price/performance value) or the 9700K (for its raw performance and overclocking) based on the user's budget and preference.

The 9600K/KF isn't really worth it unless you're comparing it to the more expensive 3600X, because the difference between the 3600 and 9600K/KF is small enough that the higher cost just to overclock it makes it less appealing than the 9700K, which holds a strong 10% lead over the 3600 at stock.

[Zireth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0_DBUJrWl4

get the 9600k if its on sale and if you plan on getting a 9900k. Make sure you get a cooler and a decent board with ample VRM cooling.

3600 in all other cases.

[Nepgear]

I wouldn't get a 6 thread cpu.

[ugafan]

I would go with the 3600.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92byoMgptU

[vadim]

Escrito originalmente por Batman:

go for 3600x its more future proof, since more and more games are supporting multi threading

This advice makes no sense - no user application needs explicitly support multithreading.

[vadim]

Escrito originalmente por emoticorpse:

So basically every news article about Intel cpu vulnerabilities is a lie.

Intel closed many of side band attack vulnerabilities in its 9th series CPUs. So, for a limited period of time it has become a leader in protecting CPUs from vulnerabilities.
But very soon AMD released its Zen 2 which copied most of Intel's fixes, so, at the moment they are relatively on par.
Take into account that most of the articles about vulnerabilities relate to old processor models.

[r.linder]

Vulnerabilities really aren't worth worrying about. They're often fixed relatively quickly and the chances of the vulnerability affecting you are extremely slim, unless you're being very reckless and doing things that would put your system at risk.

[Jamebonds1]

The issue with Intel's security is old news now. That is why I wait for a while. I upgraded from i7-3770K to i9-9900K, worth it. I would've recommended i5-9600K with Gigabyte Z390 Master for gaming.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por Jamebonds1:

The issue with Intel's security is old news now. That is why I wait for a while. I upgraded from i7-3770K to i9-9900K, worth it. I would've recommended i5-9600K with Gigabyte Z390 Master for gaming.

That motherboard costs more than the 9600K in most countries... That makes no sense because it has no actual performance benefit over their lower priced boards, it's only priced higher because of extra features that most don't even need.

[Zireth]

Escrito originalmente por Escorve:

Escrito originalmente por Jamebonds1:

The issue with Intel's security is old news now. That is why I wait for a while. I upgraded from i7-3770K to i9-9900K, worth it. I would've recommended i5-9600K with Gigabyte Z390 Master for gaming.

That motherboard costs more than the 9600K in most countries... That makes no sense because it has no actual performance benefit over their lower priced boards, it's only priced higher because of extra features that most don't even need.

That or better cooling for the VRMs, It's important for overclocking because those things get hot.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por ЯΣП:

Escrito originalmente por Escorve:

That motherboard costs more than the 9600K in most countries... That makes no sense because it has no actual performance benefit over their lower priced boards, it's only priced higher because of extra features that most don't even need.

That or active cooling for the VRMs, It's important for overclocking because those things get hot.

VRMs can take high temperatures, with many of them capable of handling 100~150 C, and even when overclocking one shouldn't even come close to that.
Manufacturers of motherboards tell you that you need it, when in reality you actually don't need actively cooled VRMs. They just want to sell you something more expensive for profit, that's all it is.