PATENT Feb 4, 2020 @ 8:58am
Opinion on X99 + i7 5820K in 2020?
I'm a PC enthusiast on a budget. I like high end PC parts even if they're few years old. I currently have 1080Ti Strix (G1 980Ti still on shelf, I love this card) and i7 4790K. I'm thinking about changing my setup for the one in the title. This 5820K is literally half the price of my 4790K and I found a great X99 Strix for sale in my city. I could later change that 5820K for even a 5960X which has 8 cores. Do you think that's a good idea? The only problem is I currently have 600W PSU with only single 8pin CPU power connector but this X99 requires 8+4pin and my question is would it run fine with single 8pin with this CPU until I grab a better PSU or it won't boot at all?
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Omega Feb 4, 2020 @ 9:05am 
It's probably not worth buying the 5820K + X99 mobo. For around $180 you can buy a modern CPU and mobo which outperform it. A Ryzen 1600 AF and Gigabyte B450 DS3H for example.

More then 6 cores is useless for gaming.

A single 8pin is fine. The extra 4pin is not required.

X99 machines are still very capable, but it's not worth buying one considering what you can buy now new for half the price of what this stuff is sold for used.
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PATENT Feb 4, 2020 @ 9:07am 
Originally posted by Omega:
Single 8pin is fine.

It's probably not worth buying the 5820K + X99 mobo. For around $180 you can buy a modern CPU and mobo which outperform it. A Ryzen 1600 AF and Gigabyte B450 DS3H for example.

More then 6 cores is useless for gaming.

A single 8pin is fine. The extra 4pin is not required.
If 8pin is fine then cool. As I said I love the older high end parts + I'm a Strix fan. I would like my PC to be something like your retro build but with newer and higher end parts.
Last edited by PATENT; Feb 4, 2020 @ 9:07am
Omega Feb 4, 2020 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by TUMORHEAD:
Originally posted by Omega:
Single 8pin is fine.

It's probably not worth buying the 5820K + X99 mobo. For around $180 you can buy a modern CPU and mobo which outperform it. A Ryzen 1600 AF and Gigabyte B450 DS3H for example.

More then 6 cores is useless for gaming.

A single 8pin is fine. The extra 4pin is not required.
If 8pin is fine then cool. As I said I love the older high end parts + I'm a Strix fan. I would like my PC to be something like your retro build but with newer and higher end parts.
This stuff is not that old. I replaced my 5820k only a few months ago when the mobo died.
I don't think your suggested upgrade path is that good.

How much'd you pay for the CPU and motherboard?

With the X99 chipset you're commited to the Haswell architecture.
It's a lateral move. You go from Haswell R to Haswell E. Besides the increased core count, you don't get any benefits as you'd from a revised architecture.

Looking from a performance perspective, don't do it.

8-pin will work.

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A more attractive upgrade path'd be a Ryzen 5 2600 CPU in combination with a good B450 motherboard/ X470 motherboard. The Ryzen 5 2600 beats a moderate OC'd 5820K in most applications. Ryzen 5 3600 beats it by a long shot. And the biggest advantage, you will be able to upgrade to a Ryzen 4000 Series 8 Core CPU at a later point, on the same motherboard.
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PATENT Feb 4, 2020 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by Bananarama:
I don't think your suggested upgrade path is that good.

How much'd you pay for the CPU and motherboard?

With the X99 chipset you're commited to the Haswell architecture.
It's a lateral move. You go from Haswell R to Haswell E. Besides the increased core count, you don't get any benefits as you'd from a revised architecture.

Looking from a performance perspective, don't do it.

8-pin will work.

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A more attractive upgrade path'd be a Ryzen 5 2600 CPU in combination with a good B450 motherboard/ X470 motherboard. The Ryzen 5 2600 beats a moderate OC'd 5820K in most applications. Ryzen 5 3600 beats it by a long shot. And the biggest advantage, you will be able to upgrade to a Ryzen 4000 Series 8 Core CPU at a later point, on the same motherboard.
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I'm taking this more as a hobby. 4790K is still very good for me because I play games at 1440p/4K so card is being maxed out. I just wanted to know if these CPUs are still good for todays standards. Going from Z97+4790K to X99+5820K is pretty much free unless I decide to grab top end X99 then I have to add something from my pocket. Later I can sell 5820K and get 5960X for 130$ more.
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PATENT Feb 4, 2020 @ 10:19am 
Keep in mind I'm from EU, prices here are much different than in US
vadim Feb 4, 2020 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by Omega:
It's probably not worth buying the 5820K + X99 mobo. For around $180 you can buy a modern CPU and mobo which outperform it. A Ryzen 1600 AF and Gigabyte B450 DS3H for example.
Ryzen 1600 is slower than i7-5820k. Do not know about "AF" model. Never seen them on sale. Actually, I only today learned from your message about their existence.
Last edited by vadim; Feb 4, 2020 @ 12:52pm
Omega Feb 4, 2020 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by vadim:
Originally posted by Omega:
It's probably not worth buying the 5820K + X99 mobo. For around $180 you can buy a modern CPU and mobo which outperform it. A Ryzen 1600 AF and Gigabyte B450 DS3H for example.
Ryzen 1600 is slower than i7-5820k.
1600 AF, which is basically a 2600.

Stupid new CPU released by AMD a few weeks ago. Idk why they called it 1600.

"But I can't find it online", it's the 1600's advertised as a 12nm CPU with a Wraith Stealth cooler.

Spec-wise it's identical to a 2600, but it performs slightly better in benchmarks.

Originally posted by vadim:
Do not know about "AF" model. Never seen them on sale. Actually, I only today learned from your message about their existence.
AMD refers to it as a 1600 AF in their CPU database. Retailers just call it a 1600.
Last edited by Omega; Feb 4, 2020 @ 12:57pm
hawkeye Feb 4, 2020 @ 3:39pm 
Forget it. The 4790k is probably better than a 5820k.
_I_ Feb 4, 2020 @ 3:52pm 
games still like core performance over more cores
5820k has 6 cores+ht, but a lower clock
4790k has 4 cores+ht, and can oc higher
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/2579vs2384

overall you would be spending money on a lateral move

for a $300 upgrade, you can get the ryzen 3600 and board and ddr4
Last edited by _I_; Feb 4, 2020 @ 3:52pm
Komrade Feb 4, 2020 @ 4:34pm 
Originally posted by vadim:
Originally posted by Omega:
It's probably not worth buying the 5820K + X99 mobo. For around $180 you can buy a modern CPU and mobo which outperform it. A Ryzen 1600 AF and Gigabyte B450 DS3H for example.
Ryzen 1600 is slower than i7-5820k. Do not know about "AF" model. Never seen them on sale. Actually, I only today learned from your message about their existence.
Ryzen 5 1600 AF is on par with the 2600 in performance, for cheaper.

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-CPU-RYZEN-1600-AM4/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=1600af&qid=1580862805&sr=8-1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRO_AUdmfis&

It's been out for many weeks.
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