Optimal airflow?

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Ive got the p400 phanteks chassi and rnow i got a Noctua NH-U12S CPU cooler , 2 stock ones and 3 NF-f12.

1 stock rear, 1 stock top, 1 nff12 top and two front. (front is intakes and the rest is out)

I recently saw that my temps lower with the side panel off, and that may be the cause of heat being stuck between my cpu cooler and the GPU, it was much hotter in that part than the remaining case. What can i do? change my setup? the fans are new, and i tried the top 2 as intakes but it got hotter..


EDIT:

https://imgur.com/a/SWpNyl7

Pics of my rig.

Ive realized i can mod my front panel. So i will probably do that and ill gladly take advice

[Sapph]

Main issue is that the P300 just simply has horrible airflow.
The best setup is to have front as intake and rest as exhaust as you have now.

But it doesn't make up for the case's bad design for airflow.
To get lower temperatures, you need a new case.

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Originally posted by Sapph:

Main issue is that the P300 just simply has horrible airflow.
The best setup is to have front as intake and rest as exhaust as you have now.

But it doesn't make up for the case's bad design for airflow.
To get lower temperatures, you need a new case.

Which case could you recommend?

[Sapph]

Originally posted by Falcons Kåkberg:

Which case could you recommend?

Fractal Design Meshify C for good airflow.

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Originally posted by Sapph:

Originally posted by Falcons Kåkberg:

Which case could you recommend?

Fractal Design Meshify C for good airflow.

Looks really good, I saw some custom builds on the phanteks case i have too, Maybe i could go with something like that

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

As said the SilverStone RL06 is the one which GamersNexus got best air flow in.
He also got pretty good air flow with the Meshify and the Noctua A... fans.
SilverStone PM01 looks like it could have good air flow too. PM02 is quite a bit worse than RL06.

The LianLi PC-011 Air many of us had high hopes for but sadly it didn't deliver completely. Better with one remove the dust mesh though.

Phantek Evolv supposedly had poor air flow too and they claim three times better with the Evolv X. That's unlikely "extreme airflow" either but at-least a massive improvement.

Cutting a large rectangular hole in front of the fans and then glueing a black dust net on the backside I guess could look ok.

Or better yet if one can get those downward angled 45 degree cut thingies like on house vents but in plastic at a decent size and screw over the hole maybe =P

I don't know what it would cost to have someone with a laser/water cutter to cut specific shapes but likely too much?

[Arya]

Originally posted by Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism:

I don't know what it would cost to have someone with a laser/water cutter to cut specific shapes but likely too much?

Enough to be totally impractical. Unless you know a good friend with a water jet who owes you a favour, don't bother. Although you don't need one to modify a case, a dremel would be fine. Metal of that thickness is pretty easy to cut and shape, the problem is the mess that makes.

I briefly had a Phanteks Enthoo Primo early this year, and it's left me with a really bad impression of Phanteks as a whole. It just wasn't a logically designed case, with a lot of amateurish errors. The much-touted Reservoir Bracket block anything bigger than a GTX 1060. And I really doubt a build with full custom liquid cooling is going to run a 1050 Ti or 1060 Mini.

Another massive problem was airflow. The case basically has no frontal airflow to speak of, with the main intake being a mere dual 240 mounted on the bottom. And it's intake area is so compromised that I doubt it would've created a usable airflow with the fans Phanteks provides.

And it was the fans that left the worst impression. They're literally the worst PC fans I've ever seen, in all my years. They're comically inefficient, extremely loud and don't have a high enough static pressure to work in the confined space. Swapped into a bigger case, they struggle to cope with a mesh grill. Let alone a tiny and very restricted intake duct.

[Talby]

Originally posted by Falcons Kåkberg:

...heat being stuck between my cpu cooler and the GPU, it was much hotter in that part than the remaining case. What can i do? ...

Try setting a custom fan curve in MSI afterburner, it was the only thing that helped my R9 390 in a mATX case (very similar situation). I simply moved my over so it hits 100% speed @ 80C - will be a bit louder but will keep the GPU cooler and as a result the entire lower half of your case will too. Do the same for your CPU fan in your BIOS, that will also help a bit.

Speaking of a dremel (or rotozip or whatever rotary cutting weapon of choice), this case is dying for a blow hole mod[www.overclockersclub.com] to get more intake, in front of the PSU and another to punch through the bottom PSU shield (where previously-mentioned black mesh would hide it nicely)...

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

One of the key things for optimal airflow is cable management. The case you will want to use for it have should have some holes near where you mount the motherboard to accomodate for cable passage between the chassis and the mounting side panel.

With case fans, airflow intake should always be front sides and bottom while exhaust should always be rear and top.

This is the inside view of my desktop.
https://imgur.com/a/4Rams?desktop=1

[Walach]

Well all I can "help" with is just the basic:
Hot air rises, cold air falls, open tops are a god sent for me. I myself got like 11 fans and I'm afraid that I soon have to tie down my computer as it will probably start hovering when it gets hot! :P

[Hello Kitty]

Originally posted by The Spoopy Kitteh:

One of the key things for optimal airflow is cable management. The case you will want to use for it have should have some holes near where you mount the motherboard to accomodate for cable passage between the chassis and the mounting side panel.

With case fans, airflow intake should always be front sides and bottom while exhaust should always be rear and top.

This is the inside view of my desktop.
https://imgur.com/a/4Rams?desktop=1

Unless you have a huge mess with your cables while the all just stuffed randomly into the case, there is nearly no measurable impact on airflow for cable managment.
Your case is a particular worst case airflow example. You have 3x 5.25" bays that has no air intake or space for fans. the remaining 75% of the front is covered by drive bays and the 25% where air wouldnt be blocked is blocked by all your cables.

http://forum.ragezone.com/f766/guide-tech-tips-cable-management-840094/

that cable managment because of the case and PSU is far from being perfect. but it is at least somehow clean. If you want to know how clean cable management look like -> look at pictures of enthusiasts in this forum.

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Originally posted by Hello Kitty:

Originally posted by The Spoopy Kitteh:

One of the key things for optimal airflow is cable management. The case you will want to use for it have should have some holes near where you mount the motherboard to accomodate for cable passage between the chassis and the mounting side panel.

With case fans, airflow intake should always be front sides and bottom while exhaust should always be rear and top.

This is the inside view of my desktop.
https://imgur.com/a/4Rams?desktop=1

Unless you have a huge mess with your cables while the all just stuffed randomly into the case, there is nearly no measurable impact on airflow for cable managment.
Your case is a particular worst case airflow example. You have 3x 5.25" bays that has no air intake or space for fans. the remaining 75% of the front is covered by drive bays and the 25% where air wouldnt be blocked is blocked by all your cables.

http://forum.ragezone.com/f766/guide-tech-tips-cable-management-840094/

that cable managment because of the case and PSU is far from being perfect. but it is at least somehow clean. If you want to know how clean cable management look like -> look at pictures of enthusiasts in this forum.

^

I have no drive bays at all. and my case is not blocked by anything on the inside

[Chill-Out-Zone]

https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/ideal.png.pagespeed.ce.5fP1hOQ49E.png

Can do with a cooler master too.