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highly doubt the comparisons are "large", also people are are talking about overpriced intel cpu's yet the amd cpus you guys are rambling about go from 1.5k - 4k+, tell me again who is over priced?
also you dont need a 10980xe to run 2 titan rtx's LOL, you only need a cpu that can push 16x on atleast 2 lanes, more if running triple or quad gpus, that being said, people who run more than 1 gpu for gaming are the people tossing money away, almost no games support dual/triple/quad gpu configurations and the ones that do run horribly.
id love to contribute to keep intel stock high, makes money for the stock holders, also keeps the better company on top :)
i will take my over priced beastly intel/nvidia/asus computer over any amd nonsense
intel/nvidia > amd
all of that being said, why are you people arguing, or bringing amd into this conversation....
OP only wants comparisons about i9-10900X vs i9-9900K.
amd isnt required or needed in this thread and at best it is derailing the thread, please stay on topic.
Wow, that's ridiculous. It is completely relevant because it's a topic of CPUs. Just because the OP is misled by Intel > AMD bias, doesn't mean it's not allowed to be discussed.
Everyone going off on a tangent about Intel vs AMD like this makes the entire topic about both companies regardless.
OP asked about i9-10900X vs i9-9900K, he said nothing about being biased against amd, he simply wants answers about said cpu's not amd cpu's.
if you or others cant give him the correct answers then why are you here?
No one is saying to use TR, most of us (myself included) are suggesting 3950/3900/3800x systems.
the 3900X is > than the 10900x
Proof:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-10900X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-3900X/m969950vs4044
Its better in games (95% to intels 93%)
Its better in general usage (95% to intels 93%)
its *way* better at heavy workstation/production loads (118% vs 105%).
Across the board, the 3900x is better.
Meanwhile the 10900 MSRP is 1K and you can find it around 650
The 3900x is widely available at 450...
x570 boards are expensive beasts, but still cheaper than most decent x299 boards when talking new for both.
RAM on both is the same cost.
AMD brings a more modern chipset with more modern features and faster NVMe drives and faster PCIe for other uses.
Intel build requires third party cooler, stock AMD cooler is plenty fine for the 3900x...
AMD is the better build and at a better price by at least $200 or more. Period.
Thats either a new GPU tier (if in mid ranges) or a PCIe 4.0 NVMe boot drive, your choice :)
you missed this part... v
he doesnt want amd, so why keep bringing it up.... this thread isnt for amd people, move on...
Because some people try to help others when they are ignorant.
In the end people want the best performance for the best dollar 99.9% of the time (in non-vanity performance specific products (like PC's)).
If he is the 0.01% that wants to intentionally and knowingly waste money for no performance gains for nothing but the name on a PC, he is welcome to, but any self respecting IT user would (and should) try to stop him from making a poor decision that hurts him (regardless of if he thinks so or not, factually it harms the final line of cost on the unit in an undeniable way regardless of level of impact).
Simply put, hes being stupid and choosing a brand over performance or value. If he wants to its his choice, but most of us will 1) advise against it, and 2) rightly call him a bit off (in various ways) for choosing to follow through with a blatantly unwise choice.
Any smart person questions a bad decision, and either of those options, in the face of AMD's offerings, is a bad decision.
your opinions on who is ignorant or wants to waste money are invalid, the OP asked a simple question " i9-10900X vs i9-9900K " .
he didnt ask for lectures on his money spending or what you think is better, or why your biased against intel.
only people here being "stupid" are all the amd fanboys trying to spread their misinformation and amd pushing on people who dont want it.
if you cant answer the OP's question, then move along and stop trying to bully people.
You call us fanbois spreading misinformation, yet we are the ones linking back to verifieable professional reviews backing our views while the intel fanbois (you) claim we are wrong with no proof to back you up yet aside from the AVX arguement and a misely 3-5% in some game titles...
You are not against us there buddy, you are currently against the majority of the profesional review base in the PC insustry. Thats who you are arguing against, get your facts straight. LTT, DeBauer, HWuB, GamersNexus, they are *all* in agreement that the 10900x is a complete trash head flop, and AMD rules the roost across the board.
You want to have an opniion that is against the *facts* thats yours to have, but the facts done support your views, they do support ours...
And before you call me an AMD fanboy, out of the PC's in the room I am in I can count at least 13 Intel CPU's against 4 AMD cpus (two of which are legacy)...
OP has more money than sense. The only game they play is DoTA2.
1. He actually stated early on that "AMD is not an option for serious gamers," which is a sorely misled idea. The OP brought AMD into question because he chose to respond to someone recommending AMD for the versatility across the board with Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9.
2. There is no correct answer except the one that the OP chooses to accept. You don't get to come into his thread and tell people recommending AMD that they're wrong and that we're "bullies" for consistently recommending AMD to someone who clearly is being fed Intel shill biases by users like yourself that choose to deny evidence and pick one of the VERY few instances that Intel is better by a fair margin.
1. The answer was given already, and fairly obvious based on the fact that the 9900K/KF/KS is quite literally the ultimate CPU for everything; it's great across the board and the price isn't terrible. It just falls short in a few regards to the competition when considering multi-threaded workloads, hence where people recommend AMD because the OP is a content creator, someone who would benefit more from a Ryzen 9 CPU than a 9900K, and that is a widely accepted fact by people who aren't blinded by biases in favor of Intel. It's fact that more people are supporting AMD than Intel (for desktop + HEDT) now.
What the OP is playing doesn't even need a 9900K.
2. Nobody is lecturing him on his spending habits by looking at i9s, he's literally pointing out that there's a better option for less or the same money, but your interpretation is that he's a bully for doing so. Like I said, it's also a fact that AMD is great in price/performance compared to Intel; the Ryzen 5 3600 is within 10% of the 9700K in gaming, but it usually costs over 25~30% less. The real difference with Intel comes with overclocking, which you often have to pay a bit more on for cooling and motherboard depending on how high you're aiming; cheaper boards may have issues running 5 GHz+.
3. Funny, because that's what people are saying about the Intel shills that hate how well AMD is doing now. Intel is only really winning with server CPUs.
4. You're literally here bullying people who recommend AMD because they aren't recommending what you like. You're literally describing yourself.
His needs do matter... That's the whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ point of choosing between 2 or more CPUs. The title of the thread may be between 2 specific chips, but that doesn't mean other CPUs can't be discussed. You wouldn't even be having a temper tantrum if people recommended only Intel CPUs that weren't in the title.
I'm done with you, you're only here to stir the pot and be a general nuisance.
Lmao?
>OP does't want your opinon.
>OP wants your opinion!
Doesn't make sense.
Also, you say the only thing that matters are those 2 parts, but if there is something that completes his task faster, why not recommend it?