Nevu 2020 年 1 月 4 日 上午 7:25
[SOLVED] USB ports and display not working after installing more RAM
Hey, I just picked up a 8GB stick to upgrade my PC to 16GB. The 8GB stick is 100% identical to the one I already have installed. The RAM seemed to pop in with no fuss and everything seemed okay. Though, when I turned on the PC and hooked everything up, there was no display, and my peripherals weren't working at all. There was also a weird very faint beeping-like constant noise coming from the PC. After removing the new RAM and turning the PC on again, everything worked as if nothing happened. What gives, could the RAM be defective?
最後修改者:Nevu; 2020 年 1 月 4 日 上午 11:55
引用自 Bad 💀 Motha:
Pressing case reset or power never resets the cmos. The purpose of unplugging the power cable from rear of psu and holding in case power button for approx 10 secs is to drain the caps. Now the system has zero power build up. The battery alone is keeping the bios settings alive. Remove the cmos battery for approx 5 mins, or short the reset cmos jumper pins. Then power the system back on and give it a hood minute or so to post. But be ready to enter the bios if it doesn't do that all on its own. If the PC boots to OS too quickly, temporary unplug sata data cable from internal drives. Once cmos is reset and posting, don't change anything yet, just save and exit the bios. This is to check that the ram works. If it does, force the power off via the psu switch, hold case power button in for 10 secs. Then remove ram that booted fine and swap for the other.
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emoticorpse 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:27 
引用自 Ren
引用自 emoticorpse
They need to start embedding ram sticks into the motherboard.
Great, now I can't slap 64gb of ram into my 1000$ motherboard

You can't tell when you build a pc how much ram you want on it?. I didn't say it but I still want a bit of flexibilty like other dude said. I don't want it totally locked down.
最後修改者:emoticorpse; 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:28
Zireth 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:31 
引用自 emoticorpse
引用自 Ren
Great, now I can't slap 64gb of ram into my 1000$ motherboard

You can't tell when you build a pc how much ram you want on it?. I didn't say it but I still want a bit of flexibilty like other dude said. I don't want it totally locked down.
16gb unless you do some work based or VMing then 32 upto 128gb may be useful.
Omega 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:32 
引用自 emoticorpse
引用自 Ren
Great, now I can't slap 64gb of ram into my 1000$ motherboard

You can't tell when you build a pc how much ram you want on it?. I didn't say it but I still want a bit of flexibilty like other dude said. I don't want it totally locked down.
Would love 64GB but my wallet doesn't allow for this. So I would have to start with 16GB and then upgrade later.

And no, machines often get upgraded after a couple of years. 8GB might have been fine in 2014 but no longer now in 2020. Having everything soldered to the board would make it nearly impossible to upgrade, even if they leave room for you to add more RAM chips, but that would go against the entire point of it all.
最後修改者:Omega; 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:34
emoticorpse 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:36 
引用自 Omega
引用自 emoticorpse

You can't tell when you build a pc how much ram you want on it?. I didn't say it but I still want a bit of flexibilty like other dude said. I don't want it totally locked down.
Would love 64GB but my wallet doesn't allow for this.

And no, machines often get upgraded after a couple of years. 8GB might have been fine in 2014 but no longer now in 2020. Having everything soldered to the board would make it nearly impossible to upgrade, even if they leave room for you to add more RAM chips, but that would go against the entire point of it all.

You have a good point. I mean not everyone is adept enough with computer hardware to know exactly what they'll need in the long run, so a lot of people will probably miscalculate and need to add later on. But at the same time too much upgradability. Dudes on here asking to get a fx 6300 in 2019 and "upgrading" it. Come on, that's just asking for problems and he doesn't know it. Imagine how many people trying to do that in the world that don't come to Steam and ask for advice. Gonna be a frankenstein pc on crack (if it even comes to life). I know there's a middle ground, got to find it though. Apple makes people get high end stuff for their own safety. Some people out there need that just can't afford it.
最後修改者:emoticorpse; 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:38
Omega 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:48 
Apple sells people low-end crap with a shiny coat of paint and as many limitations as they can push in to their machines to lock their customers in to the Apple ecosystem and earn the biggest profit possible.

Apple doesn't protect their customers, Apple protects it's bank account. The T2 chips is a perfect example of this, Apple claims it makes everything "safer", in reality it just prevents you or a third party from changing any component in the laptop yourself. You change the keyboard? MAC doesn't work anymore. Same story with their phones "Unautorized Power button detected".


Most Apple devices have a common point of failure, be it a keyboard or a chip on the board. And when it breaks Apple tells you to buy a new machine.


Recomendation: Lious Rossman and iPad Rehab on Youtube.

</AppleFlame>


Most users from my experience aren't that savvy and will indeed do weird things like considering to buy 10 year old hardware with the intend to upgrade later. Just go to a PC store and get scammed there instead at least then you will end up with something modern most of the time.
Washell 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:53 
引用自 Omega
Apple sells people low-end crap with a shiny coat of paint and as many limitations as they can push in to their machines to lock their customers in to the Apple ecosystem and earn the biggest profit possible.

Apple doesn't protect their customers, Apple protects it's bank account. The T2 chips is a perfect example of this, Apple claims it makes everything "safer", in reality it just prevents you or a third party from changing any component in the laptop yourself. You change the keyboard? MAC doesn't work anymore. Same story with their phones "Unautorized Power button detected".


Most Apple devices have a common point of failure, be it a keyboard or a chip on the board. And when it breaks Apple tells you to buy a new machine.


Recomendation: Lious Rossman and iPad Rehab on Youtube.

</AppleFlame>


Most users from my experience aren't that savvy and will indeed do weird things like considering to buy 10 year old hardware with the intend to upgrade later. Just go to a PC store and get scammed there instead at least then you will end up with something modern most of the time.
Their new cheesegrater is modular and upgradeble. The only blemish is a propriatary SSD formfactor. Oh, and the idiotic price ofcourse.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Mac+Pro+2019+Teardown/128922#s253361

Omega 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:57 
引用自 Washell
引用自 Omega
Apple sells people low-end crap with a shiny coat of paint and as many limitations as they can push in to their machines to lock their customers in to the Apple ecosystem and earn the biggest profit possible.

Apple doesn't protect their customers, Apple protects it's bank account. The T2 chips is a perfect example of this, Apple claims it makes everything "safer", in reality it just prevents you or a third party from changing any component in the laptop yourself. You change the keyboard? MAC doesn't work anymore. Same story with their phones "Unautorized Power button detected".


Most Apple devices have a common point of failure, be it a keyboard or a chip on the board. And when it breaks Apple tells you to buy a new machine.


Recomendation: Lious Rossman and iPad Rehab on Youtube.

</AppleFlame>


Most users from my experience aren't that savvy and will indeed do weird things like considering to buy 10 year old hardware with the intend to upgrade later. Just go to a PC store and get scammed there instead at least then you will end up with something modern most of the time.
Their new cheesegrater is modular and upgradeble. The only blemish is a propriatary SSD formfactor. Oh, and the idiotic price ofcourse.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Mac+Pro+2019+Teardown/128922#s253361
Apple desktops workstations have always been decent in upgradability. You just have to buy overpriced "certified" hardware with custom firware on it.

And of course you still have to deal with Apple screwing you over at every opportunity like with the mentioned SSD form factor.
Bad 💀 Motha 2020 年 1 月 4 日 下午 12:59 
It's simple to know the logical minimum, what oem prebuilds use. Your average Dell Desktop will have 16gb of ram in it nowa days. Well there you go.
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