god 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 1:06
Question New 2x8gb ram sticks cant boot up my pc
so i upgraded from 2x4gb to 2x8gb and with the new sticks i cant boot up mine or my brothers pc..
the new ram was bought off amazon : Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz CL16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit - Black
my specs:
Gigabyte B450M DS3H
AMD Ryzen 5 1400
8GB of RAM
MSI 1060 6GB Armor Graphics Card
1TB of Storage
Microsoft Windows 10
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-=SOF=-WID99 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 1:42 
yea maybe he'd be better off with crucial ram but he should still check the bios version ...
最后由 -=SOF=-WID99 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 1:43
r.linder 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 1:44 
引用自 -=SOF=-WID99
yea maybe he'd be better off with crucial ram

Any Samsung B-die kit should work well so long as it doesn't exceed 2933 MHz, as Zen has awful support for 3200 MHz and scattered support for 3000. Flare X kits have an extremely good track record with Ryzen because G.Skill manufactured it specifically for Zen.

There's three major memory chip manufacturers; Hynix, Micron, and Samsung.
Hynix is somewhat decent with Ryzen but can still cause issues.
Micron is something to avoid completely with Ryzen, because it has the least amount of support and the most amount of problems.
Samsung is the go-to choice because it fails the least, overclocks the best, and often has the best timings.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 1:48
emoticorpse 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 1:46 
try resetting the pc. power it off, unplug the psu from the power outlet and remove the cmos battery. leave it alone for a couple minutes, then put it back together and power it on.
-=SOF=-WID99 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 1:53 
again i always go by the manual with any mother board

it shows in the QVL list
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_b450m-ds3h_summit.pdf

CORSAIR 8GB 1Rx8 CMK64GX4M8B3200C16 SS 16-18-18-36 1.35v v v v 2133

it also shows the ram should be in slot 1 and 2 and yes he will have to open the bios and enable XMP mode to run at 3200 ..as the ram will default to 2133

oh wait my bad his ram is
CMK 16 GX4M2B3200C16 not 64 so your right man sorry .. it may be the wrong RAM .. RMA it back would be my advise

i did see this tho over on corsairs webpage
Double-check to see which memory slots your DDR4 is installed in against your motherboard’s instruction manual. We’ve found that you have to install your DIMMs in the primary set of memory channels first, in order, to ensure stability. If this checks out, please contact our tech support.
最后由 -=SOF=-WID99 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:04
r.linder 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:00 
引用自 -=SOF=-WID99
again i always go by the manual with any mother board

it shows in the QVL list
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_b450m-ds3h_summit.pdf

CORSAIR 8GB 1Rx8 CMK64GX4M8B3200C16 SS 16-18-18-36 1.35v v v v 2133

it also shows the ram should be in slot 1 and 2 and yes he will have to open the bios and enable XMP mode to run at 3200 ..as the ram will default to 2133

I'm pretty sure that that portion of the manual is actually for the lower end Athlon APUs, not the R5 1400. It doesn't even state in the manual that it's a CPU limitation causing it, and I'm certain that it's just a RAM issue, as QVL is not an indication of proper support, as I've said before. I've had issues with QVL listed kits, it's best to stick to tried and true kits like Flare X.

Zen is significantly more picky than Zen+ and Zen2, you most often have to tweak RAM settings with 3000+ because half of them just won't work with the XMP profile. Zen's IMC is horrendously bad.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:01
-=SOF=-WID99 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:07 
引用自 Escorve
引用自 -=SOF=-WID99
again i always go by the manual with any mother board

it shows in the QVL list
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_b450m-ds3h_summit.pdf

CORSAIR 8GB 1Rx8 CMK64GX4M8B3200C16 SS 16-18-18-36 1.35v v v v 2133

it also shows the ram should be in slot 1 and 2 and yes he will have to open the bios and enable XMP mode to run at 3200 ..as the ram will default to 2133

I'm pretty sure that that portion of the manual is actually for the lower end Athlon APUs, not the R5 1400. It doesn't even state in the manual that it's a CPU limitation causing it, and I'm certain that it's just a RAM issue, as QVL is not an indication of proper support, as I've said before. I've had issues with QVL listed kits, it's best to stick to tried and true kits like Flare X.

Zen is significantly more picky than Zen+ and Zen2, you most often have to tweak RAM settings with 3000+ because half of them just won't work with the XMP profile. Zen's IMC is horrendously bad.
yea i chose summit ridge QVL list as his CPU it lists his ryzen 5 1400 as a summit ridge CPU

gigabyte has a separate QVL list for different AMD series CPUs for that motherboard on their support page
最后由 -=SOF=-WID99 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:08
r.linder 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:24 
引用自 -=SOF=-WID99
引用自 Escorve

I'm pretty sure that that portion of the manual is actually for the lower end Athlon APUs, not the R5 1400. It doesn't even state in the manual that it's a CPU limitation causing it, and I'm certain that it's just a RAM issue, as QVL is not an indication of proper support, as I've said before. I've had issues with QVL listed kits, it's best to stick to tried and true kits like Flare X.

Zen is significantly more picky than Zen+ and Zen2, you most often have to tweak RAM settings with 3000+ because half of them just won't work with the XMP profile. Zen's IMC is horrendously bad.
yea i chose summit ridge QVL list as his CPU it lists his ryzen 5 1400 as a summit ridge CPU

gigabyte has a separate QVL list for different AMD series CPUs for that motherboard on their support page

Nowhere does it state that Summit Ridge is one of the "limited" chips. It's the same architecture as the 1800X, as all Zen chips are Summit Ridge. The basic Athlons are the limited CPUs because they don't have the same advanced support as Summit Ridge; in many boards, a lot of things just lack proper support when one of those kinds of APUs are installed.

Raven Ridge are the 2nd gen APUs that use Zen micro-architecture (APUs are one generation behind in micro-architecture with 2nd and 3rd gen), while Pinnacle Ridge are the "primary" architecture chips using Zen+ micro-architecture, like the 2600, 2700X, etc.
Matisse is the Zen2 micro-architecture chips, like the 3600X, 3700X, etc.
Picasso is the 3rd generation APUs using Zen+ micro-archtecture.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:31
-=SOF=-WID99 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:46 
go to gigabyte support page here

you will clearly see a separate QVL list for different AMD series CPUS

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-doc

they are for supported memory

For AMD Matisse CPU
For AMD Picasso APU
For AMD Summit Ridge CPU < -------this is a ryzen 5 1400 right ???
For AMD Raven Ridge CPU
For Pinnacle Ridge support

a ryzen 5 1400 is indeed listed as a summit ridge CPU series
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/cores/summit_ridge

please esco correct me if i am mistaken in the info i just provided you

you will also see on the gigabyte website it also says the f 2 version of the system bios provides improved memory support ..so if the OP is still on an older bios .. updating the system bios may indeed help ....

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

F2 ->>>>>> Improve memory compatibility

also the current bios for that board is version F 50 ???? WTF ???

and there is a note to make sure you do the bios update to that .......... IN steps

Note: Before updating BIOS to this new version, you MUST follow the steps as detailed under BIOS F40 discription

so please esco you can say i'm wrong all night ... i just provided FACTS in an effort to help the OP ..no offence intended and non taken here bro .. just trying to help the op get his ram working

and even the manual says install the ram in slots 1 and 2 not 1 and 3

if he can not boot on a single stick of it .. yes the ram may indeed be wrong or he may need to flash the bios to have support for it ..there is not a thing wrong with having your system up to date ..with an up to date bios in fact your usually better off with the updated bios.... in many cases as it also adds better chipset support
最后由 -=SOF=-WID99 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:49
r.linder 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 2:55 
引用自 -=SOF=-WID99
go to gigabyte support page here

you will clearly see a separate QVL list for different AMD series CPUS

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-doc

they are for supported memory

For AMD Matisse CPU
For AMD Picasso APU
For AMD Summit Ridge CPU < -------this is a ryzen 5 1400 right ???
For AMD Raven Ridge CPU
For Pinnacle Ridge support

a ryzen 5 1400 is indeed listed as a summit ridge CPU series
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/cores/summit_ridge

please esco correct me if i am mistaken in the info i just provided you

you will also not on the gigabyte website it also says the f 2 version of the system bios provides improved memory support ..so if the OP is still on an older bios .. updating the system bios may indeed help ....

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

F2 ->>>>>> Improve memory compatibility

also the current bios for that board is version F 50 ???? WTF ???

and there is a note to make sure you do the bios update to that .......... IN steps
Note: Before updating BIOS to this new version, you MUST follow the steps as detailed under BIOS F40 discription

so please esco you can say i'm wrong all night ... i just provided FACTS in an effort to help the OP ..no offence intended and non taken here bro .. just trying to help the op get his ram working

and even the manual says install the ram in slots 1 and 2 not 3 and 4
if he can not boot on a single stick of it .. yes the ram may indeed be wrong or he may need to flash the bios to have support for it ..there is nother wrong with having your system on the up to date bios in fact your usually better off with the updated bios in many cases as it also adds better chipset support

All first gen (Zen) CPUs are Summit Ridge, dude. There's different lists because it goes by generation (and separated from APUs). The 1400 has the SAME architecture and micro-architecture as the 1800X. They all have the SAME QVL, from the 1200 to the 1800X. XXXXG and XXXGE chips are Raven Ridge, while the usual chips like the 2600 are Pinnacle Ridge.

F40 and beyond is for Zen2 support. Reason why there's so many jumps in numbers is because of a vastly changed AGESA and BIOS code.

I'm correcting you because your information is mixed up. You're under the impression that it's a CPU limitation, when it fact it's just incompatible RAM that has to be refunded and replaced with a more reliable kit that many Zen users have used successfully, such as G.Skill's Flare X.
The CPU limitation is not for Summit Ridge, it's for the Zen-based Athlons that lack full support of the features that Ryzen CPUs support. A lot of them have limited or completely lack NVMe support due to bandwidth limitations with those CPUs. Those CPUs are Raven Ridge, not Summit Ridge; Raven Ridge are the limited APU chips.

He can't even update the BIOS if the RAM isn't allowing it to POST. He has to refund the RAM, and would be best off buying 2933 MHz Flare X.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 3:03
-=SOF=-WID99 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 3:02 




引用自 Escorve
引用自 -=SOF=-WID99
go to gigabyte support page here

you will clearly see a separate QVL list for different AMD series CPUS

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-doc

they are for supported memory

For AMD Matisse CPU
For AMD Picasso APU
For AMD Summit Ridge CPU < -------this is a ryzen 5 1400 right ???
For AMD Raven Ridge CPU
For Pinnacle Ridge support

a ryzen 5 1400 is indeed listed as a summit ridge CPU series
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/cores/summit_ridge

please esco correct me if i am mistaken in the info i just provided you

you will also not on the gigabyte website it also says the f 2 version of the system bios provides improved memory support ..so if the OP is still on an older bios .. updating the system bios may indeed help ....

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios

F2 ->>>>>> Improve memory compatibility

also the current bios for that board is version F 50 ???? WTF ???

and there is a note to make sure you do the bios update to that .......... IN steps
Note: Before updating BIOS to this new version, you MUST follow the steps as detailed under BIOS F40 discription

so please esco you can say i'm wrong all night ... i just provided FACTS in an effort to help the OP ..no offence intended and non taken here bro .. just trying to help the op get his ram working

and even the manual says install the ram in slots 1 and 2 not 3 and 4
if he can not boot on a single stick of it .. yes the ram may indeed be wrong or he may need to flash the bios to have support for it ..there is nother wrong with having your system on the up to date bios in fact your usually better off with the updated bios in many cases as it also adds better chipset support

All first gen (Zen) CPUs are Summit Ridge, dude. There's different lists because it goes by generation (and separated from APUs). The 1400 has the SAME architecture and micro-architecture as the 1800X. They all have the SAME QVL.

F40 and beyond is for Zen2 support. Reason why there's so many jumps in numbers is because of a vastly changed AGESA and BIOS code.

I'm correcting you because your information is mixed up. You're under the impression that it's a CPU limitation, when it fact it's just incompatible RAM that has to be refunded and replaced with a more reliable kit that many Zen users have used successfully, such as G.Skill's Flare X.

The CPU limitation is not for Summit Ridge, it's for the Zen-based Athlons that lack full support of the features that Ryzen CPUs support. A lot of them have limited or completely lack NVMe support.

He can't even update the BIOS if the RAM isn't allowing it to POST. He has to refund the RAM, and would be best off buying 2933 MHz Flare X.
he can reinstall his old ram to flash the bios

read his first words i quote from his first words

so i upgraded from 2x4gb to 2x8gb <<<< if his bios version is still on an old version his ram might not work is my POINT

so before he goes to the trouble to return what may indeed work .. try to update the bios first ..again MY POINT

if it does not work with an updated bios installed yes RMA the ram and buy different ram
r.linder 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 3:04 
引用自 -=SOF=-WID99
引用自 Escorve

All first gen (Zen) CPUs are Summit Ridge, dude. There's different lists because it goes by generation (and separated from APUs). The 1400 has the SAME architecture and micro-architecture as the 1800X. They all have the SAME QVL.

F40 and beyond is for Zen2 support. Reason why there's so many jumps in numbers is because of a vastly changed AGESA and BIOS code.

I'm correcting you because your information is mixed up. You're under the impression that it's a CPU limitation, when it fact it's just incompatible RAM that has to be refunded and replaced with a more reliable kit that many Zen users have used successfully, such as G.Skill's Flare X.

The CPU limitation is not for Summit Ridge, it's for the Zen-based Athlons that lack full support of the features that Ryzen CPUs support. A lot of them have limited or completely lack NVMe support.

He can't even update the BIOS if the RAM isn't allowing it to POST. He has to refund the RAM, and would be best off buying 2933 MHz Flare X.
he can reinstall his old ram to flash the bios

read his first words i quote from his first words

so i upgraded from 2x4gb to 2x8gb <<<< if his bios version is still on an old version his ram might not work is my POINT

so before he goes to the trouble to return what may indeed work .. try to update the bios first ..again MY POINT

if it does not work with an updated bios installed yes RMA the ram and buy different ram

It's still a hit or miss, and a POST doesn't guarantee there won't be blue screens anyway. I had these exact same issues with QVL approved RAM, with latest AGESA version in BIOS.

With first gen it's unlikely to get 3200 MHz working flawlessly because it has such poor support in lower end boards, just as 3600 has bad support for Zen2 on low end boards. If he had updated BIOS, then it would've been fixed by now and he would've said something.
最后由 r.linder 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 3:08
-=SOF=-WID99 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 3:20 
again i am done here .... sorry esco we can agree to disagree

thanks for your info just trying to help the op with real info .. like i had to the other day, when another user could not get his 8 gig sticks to work .. in the end yep it was a limitation of his main board and system bios

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/1747892655519491250/

all kinds of people responded ..telling the op bad info of things to try .. in the end yep had he went by his manual all his hassle would have been avoided

10 times out of 10 yes i go by a QVL list for a motherboard as no one Knows what memory to install better then the people that actually MADE THE MOTHERBOARD , i mean there is a reason they print and include a manual when you buy a motherboard .

and the problem is.......... people never bother to read the manual ..and they toss em or don't even bother to look things up .

again good luck to the OP i hope ya can find working memory ..for now install your old dimms if you do not wanna upgrade your bios and see if it works with the 8 gig sticks ya bought .

RMA em and try a different brand

me .. I'm OUT ..... , its new years eve after all ,my girl is gonna kill me if i do not get off this PC :steamfacepalm:
Bad 💀 Motha 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 3:25 
On cheaper B350 and B450 boards, don't use ram above 3000, it's pointless. Also when switching out ram, reset the bios, or put all ram settings on auto before switching to new ram.

Update to latest non-beta bios first and try again.
_I_ 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 3:58 
or lower the ram freq before swapping or adding ram
then use a common speed/timings profiles when mixing ram
Bad 💀 Motha 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 4:03 
This is why to reset cmos or go into bios with working ram and set all ram settings to auto. This will make any ddr4 boot up at 2133.
最后由 Bad 💀 Motha 编辑于; 2019 年 12 月 31 日 下午 4:04
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