i7 9700k or wait for 10700k??

[CereaL KillA]

Building new PC would really mean alot of you guys can suggest me a few things. This is the build I'm going for, do you guys think i should wait or change anything?

- i7 9700k
- MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151
- MSI RTX 2070 SUPER
- G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory
- Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler
- Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
- EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750 W Power Supply
- Cooler Master MasterBox MB520 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case

Any suggestions, would really appreciate it?

[Komrade]

Go with a Ryzen 5 3600 with a 2080S and you’ll get more FPS in most games.

[Komrade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yPYxf9

Get something like this, then get a good quality 1440p 144hz monitor.

[Viking2121]

If you are dead set on intel, I'd wait, the 9700k while it's a nice chip, it's only 8 cores and no hyperthreading. I'd rather have that extra hyperthreading for longer lasting performance for the life of the chip, and its resale value will stay reasonable.

[emoticorpse]

What are you using now?

[Komrade]

Originally posted by =AEST=Viking:

If you are dead set on intel, I'd wait, the 9700k while it's a nice chip, it's only 8 cores and no hyperthreading. I'd rather have that extra hyperthreading for longer lasting performance for the life of the chip, and its resale value will stay reasonable.

No, go Ryzen, Intel is way overpriced

[Magma Dragoon]

Wait for the 4700X

[dBeatsb]

i'm in a similar boat as you. I was planning to get the ryzen 9 3900x. But i think i wait wait until the next gen socket because i want longer support. Intel mobo/chipset doesn't seem to offer that after 2-3 years.

[CereaL KillA]

Well i had this 2500k for 6 years now if not more and honestly it lasted this long. So it doesnt matter in 5 years id still have to get new cpu plus mobo. I think ill stick to 9700k i dont think theres going to be huge performance difference with 10700k i think lol.

[N0REGARD4LIFE]

Folks wanna talk about hyper threading and the fact that the 9700k has "only" 8c/8t. Nevermind that it outperforms nearly every CPU with more cores and threads now, including Intel's own 8700k and the best Ryzen CPUs in terms of pure gaming power. It's not like overnight the 9700k will be left in the dust. That being said, unless you can get it for $300 like I did, I'd go Ryzen.

[DeadPhoenix]

Isn't the 10700k going to have 8 cores and 16 threads??? Plus if you ever want to do a CPU Upgrade, you will most likely have to change the motherboard again. Just go with Ryzen. Cheaper and performace isn't that much lower compared to Intel.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by CeriaL KillA:

Well i had this 2500k for 6 years now if not more and honestly it lasted this long. So it doesnt matter in 5 years id still have to get new cpu plus mobo. I think ill stick to 9700k i dont think theres going to be huge performance difference with 10700k i think lol.

If you're waiting for period of time to have the funds before you start building, then might as well wait for the 10700k because it's going to have hyperthreading which is 8 core and 16 threads compare to 9700k which is 8 cores and 8 threads. No one knows why Intel ripping people off with the i7 without hyperthreading, and trying to make them cough extra $100, or so just got hyperthreading support such as the 9900k which people think Intel must be smoking something to market like that.

ATM AMD is hurting Intel quite a lot since 2017 not only in gaming market, but also the server market as well, due to having higher core count, threaded support for large range of their CPU's, and much lower costs as well. This year Intel is being force to change their game in the server market, because they're losing a lot of customers, but as well the gaming market, and those looking to make small cheap builds, because if they don't, AMD will keep on taking their market share which has been going for over two years slowly, but non stop, because AMD keep up with their road map, while Intel is having tough time even keeping up with their road map, which FYI we been on the same 14nm CPU's since 2015, and haven't gotten off of it still, as the 10th gen for Intel will be 14nm which is the 5th year in a row still on 14nm while AMD already landed on the 7nm in 2019, that a lot to say, when Intel been trying but for whatever reason still on the 14nm.

Now I would suggest give a look at AMD ryzen 3xxx series, as you may get that path cheaper than going with Intel. But if you're waiting for upwards of a year, then might as well wait for Ryzen 4xxx as that suppose to be the revamp of the 3xxx series.

I assume you want to stick to Intel for some special reason?

[hawkeye]

"Datacenter demand picking up at Intel

Intel is also seeing strong data center demand that's passing through to its future results. When reporting third-quarter earnings, Intel said it expects revenue in the current fourth quarter to come in at $19.2 billion, which is higher than the $18.9 billion Wall Street was looking for. Net income is projected to be $1.28 a share, higher than the $1.16 a share consensus. The upbeat outlook is being driven by demand for chips from data center customers. Not only are they lucrative for Intel, it insulates the chipmaker from the raging trade war between the U.S. and China.

In the gaming market, Intel also appears to have the edge over AMD with its latest chips. That's a big growth driver for both semiconductor companies, given there are more than one billion PC gamers around the world."

27 Dec 2019 from -

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/12/27/better-buy-advanced-micro-devices-vs-intel.aspx


Regarding 9700k or wait, I suspect that the 10 series specs floating around were invented by a well-known fake news click-bait site a few months ago. Because all the news refers back to that one article as the source. Before that, they were making fake specs in photoshop for another intel cpu range.

However CES is on in a few days, so there might be some surprises. The i5-9400 seems to have been replaced by the i5-9500 in stores near me. It's faster than the 3600 in the video below and costs a lot less. But the 3500X beats them both (if you live in China ....).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvSumDimfS8

Unless you have an urgent need I would wait. It might even turn out that the 10-X series are a better buy than the gaming 10's.

[Ralf]

I heard that NVMe is a must have for any gaming PC these days, they say that Sabrent Rocket or Intel 660p are great. I would change the psu to G2 or Corsair RMx, unless you like it if the psu is the loudest part in your PC.

[hawkeye]

Originally posted by Ralf:

I heard that NVMe is a must have for any gaming PC these days, they say that Sabrent Rocket or Intel 660p are great. I would change the psu to G2 or Corsair RMx, unless you like it if the psu is the loudest part in your PC.

Yes. The g3 is supposedly noisier than the g2. I have an RMi which is similar to an RMx (I think) but with a slightly better fan and the digital interface (which I don't use). My RMi is totally silent.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Originally posted by hawkeye:

"Datacenter demand picking up at Intel

Intel is also seeing strong data center demand that's passing through to its future results. When reporting third-quarter earnings, Intel said it expects revenue in the current fourth quarter to come in at $19.2 billion, which is higher than the $18.9 billion Wall Street was looking for. Net income is projected to be $1.28 a share, higher than the $1.16 a share consensus. The upbeat outlook is being driven by demand for chips from data center customers. Not only are they lucrative for Intel, it insulates the chipmaker from the raging trade war between the U.S. and China.

In the gaming market, Intel also appears to have the edge over AMD with its latest chips. That's a big growth driver for both semiconductor companies, given there are more than one billion PC gamers around the world."

27 Dec 2019 from -

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/12/27/better-buy-advanced-micro-devices-vs-intel.aspx

In short this is a guessing show who better to invest in for the stock market.

The issue is that it mainly talk about data centers, which it's clear they want the best products with the highest floating point, and etc...

Far as I have been hearing over the past year AMD been growing in the gaming market, as well gaming servers, or servers hosting, but data centers, and other areas will most likely remain on Intel due to their wants, and needs. So far the console market as well just renewed terms with AMD for their ryzen product over the Intel, another area is that AMD been targeting Intel products for consumer products trying to offer lower costs, with more cores, and threads compare to Intel making AMD look like the better buy for those that looking get into PC gaming, or looking to upgrade.

So far AMD IPC been growing steadily for each generation growing closer, and closer matching of Intel's, as ATM it's not much off at all. But issue is when looking at games it comes down to many factors, how it made, how it handles communication to hardware, and etc... In some games see AMD match with Intel, some games Intel does little better, and in some AMD doing just a tiny bit better than Intel.