Longy999 2019년 12월 28일 오전 10시 37분
Cheapest GPU for 4k video
My dad has ordered a 4k TV to use for his pc but currently has a GTX460 as his gpu which I'm assuming won't handle 4k very well.

Anyone know what the cheapest gpu is that can run 4k? There's no gaming done on this system, it's just for displaying and playing 4k videos on YouTube and such

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zombie cat 2019년 12월 29일 오전 2시 52분 
You could consider an rx 460 or 560. Even a 1050 ot 1650 super depending on the prices. Does your dad want to play 4k 60hz hdr content?
_I_ 2019년 12월 29일 오전 6시 05분 
the gtx460 should be fine for movies and videos at 4k, but not games
you may need to use a dvi -> hdmi adapter or cable since its hdmi is 1.4
Bad 💀 Motha 2019년 12월 29일 오전 6시 39분 
Hdmi on gtx 460 should support 2160p but only at 24/30hz

However, believe it or not, you can run 1920x1080 on a 4K Display and then still change the YouTube video playback to 4K/2160p if availble. It will still look better, more crisp and detailed then the same video at 1080p.

Running a desktop at 4K windows res all the time is going to make that entire PC always slow, especially given the cpu you have.
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InfinityJosh 2019년 12월 29일 오전 7시 06분 
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
Hdmi on gtx 460 should support 2160p but only at 24/30hz

However, believe it or not, you can run 1920x1080 on a 4K Display and then still change the YouTube video playback to 4K/2160p if availble. It will still look better, more crisp and detailed then the same video at 1080p.

Running a desktop at 4K windows res all the time is going to make that entire PC always slow, especially given the cpu you have.

Yes, 4K/24 fps is perfect for movies, 30 fps should be enough to watch videos.
60 fps are required to play well but since his father won't do it he should be fine.
Bad 💀 Motha 2019년 12월 29일 오전 7시 54분 
Many videos are not 4k/60
Maybe 720/60 and 1080/60, sure.

60 fps videos require much better hardware to have it run smoothly anyways.
L37 2019년 12월 29일 오전 8시 07분 
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
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60 fps videos require much better hardware to have it run smoothly anyways.
It does not, really.
All it requires is GPU with hardware decoder for specific format built in and appropriate output port.
The rest of the system does not matter, might as well be lga775 celeron with 2 gigs of ddr2 or something.
Even most SoC-s used in modern phones/tablets can decode 4k@60 in most popular formats. While running on ~20wh battery.
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Bad 💀 Motha 2019년 12월 29일 오전 8시 21분 
You obviously don't have a clue.

It uses both cpu and gpu.

Even youtube in Chrome with hardware acceleration on needs both your cpu and gpu. It doesn't just use amd/nvidia decoding.

His dad's pc is fine for 1080p playback, but for 4k, lol. Just nope. I only do this for a living, wtf do I know right. Good lord.

His dad already tried current pc with 4k playback and isn't happy. Well no kidding. Cause those pc specs are crap for that. Even a 6th gen Pentium would stomp those current pc specs onto the ground. And gtx 460 is quite weak to be honest. GTX 750 Ti / 950 / 1050 would run circles around that 460. GTX 460 is barely good enough for 1080p/60 videos. Yes modern phones and tablets even cheap ones are more powerful then his dads PC specs.
L37 2019년 12월 29일 오전 8시 34분 
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
You obviously don't have a clue.

It uses both cpu and gpu.

Even youtube in Chrome with hardware acceleration on needs both your cpu and gpu. It doesn't just use amd/nvidia decoding.

His dad's pc is fine for 1080p playback, but for 4k, lol. Just nope. I only do this for a living, wtf do I know right. Good lord.

His dad already tried current pc with 4k playback and isn't happy. Well no kidding. Cause those pc specs are crap for that. Even a 6th gen Pentium would stomp those current pc specs onto the ground. And gtx 460 is quite weak to be honest. GTX 750 Ti / 950 / 1050 would run circles around that 460. GTX 460 is barely good enough for 1080p/60 videos. Yes modern phones and tablets even cheap ones are more powerful then his dads PC specs.
Same a could say about you... but lets not resort to that, as well as talks about who does what for a living.
Videocard performance has zero relevance.
CPU is used obviously for secondary tasks like running browser, reading conrtainer/stream and such, but it does not decode video and it does not require much performance.
Google what hardware video decoder (or encoder) is.
Phones and tablets are not more "powerful", they are completely incapable of decoding 4k video in software. They just have separate piece of silicon which does it. The same as modern videocards. And yes, it is separate piece of silicon, does not use actual gpu to do decoding.
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Snow 2019년 12월 29일 오전 8시 43분 
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
You obviously don't have a clue.

It uses both cpu and gpu.

Even youtube in Chrome with hardware acceleration on needs both your cpu and gpu. It doesn't just use amd/nvidia decoding.

His dad's pc is fine for 1080p playback, but for 4k, lol. Just nope. I only do this for a living, wtf do I know right. Good lord.
https://imgur.com/a/8thPaHX
So, 6% load on i5-2500 during the 8K video playback. But most of that load doesn't even come from the playing video, rather running browser.
So much CPU needed, wow. Much performance.
Snow 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2019년 12월 29일 오전 8시 44분
_I_ 2019년 12월 29일 오전 8시 45분 
also depends on the player, codec and gpu
some player/codec use cpu to decompress/scale instead of the gpu
Bad 💀 Motha 2019년 12월 29일 오전 8시 51분 
Snow님이 먼저 게시:
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
You obviously don't have a clue.

It uses both cpu and gpu.

Even youtube in Chrome with hardware acceleration on needs both your cpu and gpu. It doesn't just use amd/nvidia decoding.

His dad's pc is fine for 1080p playback, but for 4k, lol. Just nope. I only do this for a living, wtf do I know right. Good lord.
https://imgur.com/a/8thPaHX
So, 6% load on i5-2500 during the 8K video playback. But most of that load doesn't even come from the playing video, rather running browser.
So much CPU needed, wow. Much performance.
Well that's alot of a cpu though. Many many more times powerful then anything that's on the FM2 socket.

You can do that two ways, hardware acceleration left enabled which uses much less cpu and mostly gpu. Or disable it if you have a very strong cpu and it will do that better in some situations.

The performance impact of a 4K or higher video will also depend on a few factors. Like the screen res you actually run. If you run the OS desktop at 2160p vs 1080p it will require better cpu and gpu. As opposed to say, desktop res at 1080p while running your videos at 4K, which yes you can do. They will still look better then running that same video at 1080p
Snow 2019년 12월 29일 오전 8시 58분 
Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:
Well that's alot of a cpu though. Many many more times powerful then anything that's on the FM2 socket.
It's around 50% more powerful than A8 5600 in question, so like instead of 6% usage there will be 9%. Then again it was 8k and not 4K. There ain't a single reason to mock FM2 CPU they have, it's more than sufficient for the job, as long as ASIC in the graphics card can handle 4K decoding.
Bad 💀 Motha 2019년 12월 29일 오전 9시 05분 
Gtx 460 doesn't even support 2160p

Best bet of gpu replacement that isn't still to old and still can utilize current drivers would be something like gtx 950 minimum
Snow 2019년 12월 29일 오전 9시 27분 
I'd say 1030 is the best option for OP's task, as it's more recent, costs less and supports more video formats than 950.
Bad 💀 Motha 2019년 12월 29일 오전 9시 50분 
What formats exactly?
My aged gtx 780 had no issues handling 1080p bluray ripped mkv encoded with h265

And what does any of that have to do with netflix, Disney+, hulu, youtube?

Your browser handles all that and the videos are via html5
Bad 💀 Motha 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2019년 12월 29일 오전 9시 51분
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