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and with no bloatware
but any oem prebuild is never worth it
If you live near one, sure. They're all to scattered about right now.
Not to me apparently. Living 350 miles away from the nearest location and they still refuse to ship, anything.
Rig turned up DOA, wouldn't even post. Wiring was a complete mess, damage to one of the pci slots, stuff I'd paid for missing. Took almost 4 weeks to get it back to them and then back to me
When it came back the wiring was once again spaghetti junction, they'd even fed one of the fan cables through the actual fan itself meaning there's absolutely no way it was ever tested
Stripped it down to bare bones and rebuilt it myself, been running like a dream since. Will never buy anything from them again though, pretty sure they just use school work experience kids to do their work for them
My advice is avoid them like the plague
for a new entry level computer prebuilts are good to obtain parts and screws and other cables.
for a cheap price
most of the time you can remove a prebuilt usb / card reader an put them into a custom built pc as well. a few prebuilts will even have wifi chips in them which can usally be swaped out into m.2 wifi slot.
it comes down to what you have vs what the prebuilt can offer you, extra case fans are also nice, you can strip down a prebuilt and repurpose most of the parts.
It's considered bad form because people who were in the conversation may no longer be active members and cannot reply. There's always room for a new thread.
It's a shame Lenovo is a chinese company because they actually make a good pc. My pc prior to getting the Dell I mentioned above was a Lenovo desktop. I remember how surprised I was at the build quality. That pc was a decent gaming system and ran trouble free for 4 years until I got a new one. But Dammit it's made in China and just can't trust that anymore.
It's hard nowadays but there are good systems to be had although you need to do your research. Don't rush into it, and buy on sale.
Or as mentioned several times, build one.
Agree