Decided....

[xSOSxHawkens]

Update Final:

Ended up not jumping on that day and let the sale slide while the GF continued to encourage me. Todays sale on the 3900x was the straw and she pushed me over ;)

In the end went with the following...

MSI MEG x570 Unify
R9-3900x
32GB Trident Z Neo 3600 CL16
Seagate FireCuda 520 PCIe 4.0 NVMe 500GB
Mushkin Enhanced Pilot 2TB

For the 4790K rig we also got 3x2TB Seagate BarraCuda 256mb Cache drives for a 4TB RAID 5 and a second SSD (Silicon Power 512GB NVMe).

Got a ThermalTake Commander C35 to house the new rig.

Cost got way too high, but I think both she and I will be pleased for the next few years with our respective upgrades. A 3900x will be super nice to play with, and she will be getting a decent boost over her older 2700k with my rig ;)


Update 1:

So, just a few hours left, I think I have the purchase set and am just giving myself a bit more time to think on it before pulling the trigger.

Current planned setup:

MSI MEG x570 Unify (12+2+1phase VRM)
R7-3800X (better binned, higher stock, worth it for +$50 imo)
32GB GSkill Trident Z Neo @ 3600 CL16/19/19/39


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Thinking hard on a major upgrade, but also in some ways a side grade... Girlfriend has given the green light, but responsible me is having second thoughts...

Cant decide. Help me out guys.

Currently:

i7-4790k, 4c/8t OC'd on AiO to 4.7-4.9 depending on workload demands, generally at 4.7 daily.
MSI Z97 Mpower
32GB DDR3-2400 @ CL10 (Gskill Trident X)

Thinking about:

Ryzen R7-2700X, air cooled via stock prism max (50% off) ($165)
MSI MPG x570 Gaming Plus ($160)
32GB DDR4-3600 @ CL16 (Gskill Trident Z Neo) ($180)


Either way the GPU will be a Vega 64, with a Samsung 950 pro 256GB NVMe boot and Intel 665p 1TB nvme secondary (both native on x570, on the Z97 the 950 is on a riser @ pcie 3.0 x4, and the 665p will be on the native m.2 @ 3.0 2x).

On a single core basis, or core for core, the i7 equals or beats the 2700x, but the 2700x has twice the cores. I will OC it as much as I can, but on air I know the 2700x wont be able to get beyond the 4790k in single core performance, I will be lucky to match it at my high OC I run the intel at.

I upgraded to 4K back in jan after the vega, and have noticed that the in game footage I have been recording takes allot longer now than it did @ 1080p to work with and am thinking that the extra cores will be a nice boost, among other things.

This is not a needed upgrade, more a wish full thinking one, but the GF is pushing me to treat myself. Despite this I have second givings.

What are your guy's thoughts?

[Lord Flashheart]

Publicado originalmente por Escorve:

Get a Ryzen 5 3600 and B450 Tomahawk MAX with 3200 MHz RAM instead.

The 3600 is better than the 2700X.
X570 isn't necessary, only recommend it for Ryzen 9, personally.
3600 MHz RAM still has iffy support, especially for 2nd gen.

My suggestion would be similar except.
A 3700X , 16 GB DDR4 3200 with CAS latency 14.
For now 16GB is enough. Get 2 x 8GB stick to elave the option to upgrade later.
The X570 motherboards are not ideal for gaming.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Publicado originalmente por W8lifts:

I had to return the MSI MPG, and purchased the ACE. Wasn’t getting the speed advertised for my chip. Now hit 4.6 (actually 4.5ish as opposed to 3.9-4.1

Which MPG? Three of them use 8+2 (570-A, 570 Gaming Plus, 570 Gaming Edge Wifi) with the last in the MPG line (gaming pro carbon wifi) getting the 10+2...

Was it one of the 8+2 or was it the 10+2 model you had issue with?

Publicado originalmente por Mamba Bajamba:

Publicado originalmente por Escorve:

Get a Ryzen 5 3600 and B450 Tomahawk MAX with 3200 MHz RAM instead.

The 3600 is better than the 2700X.
X570 isn't necessary, only recommend it for Ryzen 9, personally.
3600 MHz RAM still has iffy support, especially for 2nd gen.

My suggestion would be similar except.
A 3700X , 16 GB DDR4 3200 with CAS latency 14.
For now 16GB is enough. Get 2 x 8GB stick to elave the option to upgrade later.
The X570 motherboards are not ideal for gaming.

Ahh, but this is not about gaming, I figure I will about be the same in most games. This is about things *other* than gaming.

Also 32GB is a must, mainly due to me already making use of 32GB in both my current systems, mainly as cache since I still use allot of Mechanical storage. The ~$80 I could save going down to 16GB is not going to buy me enough SSD to replace the usefullness of that 16GB as a cache on 4+TB of spinning storage I already have lying around.



Right now I am heavily leaning on the Gaming Pro Carbon 10+2 phase with a 3700X

Or an ACE with 12+2 and a 3600...

Not that I have discounted the other options yet though ;)

[Clint E]

Gaming edge

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Whatever you do dont get the MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE, this one is lot worse then GAMING PLUS despite little higher price and has terrible VRM temps.
Gaming Pro Carbon should be pretty decent.
ACE is one of the best X570 boards but it`s pretty expensive.

[emoticorpse]

Run it at stock and open your options up to more motherboards

[Clint E]

Publicado originalmente por Rumpelcrutchskin:

Whatever you do dont get the MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE, this one is lot worse then GAMING PLUS despite little higher price and has terrible VRM temps.
Gaming Pro Carbon should be pretty decent.
ACE is one of the best X570 boards but it`s pretty expensive.

Yea I picked up a mobo+cpu bundle savings deal without much thought on the mobo then started watching the terrible reviews on it lol and sure enough 🤦‍♂️oh well. Love the Ace, only complaint is the gold lettering on it

[Magma Dragoon]

These might help you make your decision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6RsDyMn2gY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuyuS04lD4o

[Tiberius]

Imagine spending on RAM as much as CPU

[xSOSxHawkens]

Publicado originalmente por Tiberius:

Imagine spending on RAM as much as CPU

When you want the capacity and performance, yeh...

I could drop half the cost of the RAM by droping half the capcity, or half the performance, but wouldnt gain much anywhere else...

*realy* wanted a new x570 board due to how exciting they are in terms of pushing the motherboard tech industry for the first time in a decade and a half, but perhaps I can settle for a nice x470...

[xSOSxHawkens]

OK current short list on motherboards:

MSI X570 Meg Ace (12 + 2) ($370)
MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi (10+2) (240)
Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite ($200)
AsRock x570 Taichi (8+4+2) ($300)

Thoughts?...

[Magma Dragoon]

Publicado originalmente por xSOSxHawkens:

OK current short list on motherboards:

MSI X570 Meg Ace (12 + 2) ($370)
MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi (10+2) (240)
Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite ($200)
AsRock x570 Taichi (8+4+2) ($300)

Thoughts?...

Asus TUF Gaming Plus wifi or Aorus Elite if you don't need built in wifi or bluetooth.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Publicado originalmente por Magma Dragoon:

Publicado originalmente por xSOSxHawkens:

OK current short list on motherboards:

MSI X570 Meg Ace (12 + 2) ($370)
MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wifi (10+2) (240)
Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite ($200)
AsRock x570 Taichi (8+4+2) ($300)

Thoughts?...

Asus TUF Gaming Plus wifi or Aorus Elite if you don't need built in wifi or bluetooth.

Yeh, I saw those as the two at 200. I try to avoid asus, have had bad juju with them...

Was honestly looking forward to a bit more to go off of in debate of the three overnight, but alas...

[SoldierScar]

Publicado originalmente por xSOSxHawkens:

Publicado originalmente por Magma Dragoon:

Asus TUF Gaming Plus wifi or Aorus Elite if you don't need built in wifi or bluetooth.

Yeh, I saw those as the two at 200. I try to avoid asus, have had bad juju with them...

Was honestly looking forward to a bit more to go off of in debate of the three overnight, but alas...

Get the aorus elite, it's one of the best budget boards with great vrm according to reviews, will handle any ryzen cpu.The biggest disadvantages are no debug light, back panel usb-c and only 2 case fan headers.

[xSOSxHawkens]

Newest contender in the motherboard lineup, and current leader:

MSI x570 Unify

Seems to be the Mpower of this generation. No bling, lots of cooling, TONS of overclocking headroom...

[SoldierScar]

Publicado originalmente por xSOSxHawkens:

Newest contender in the motherboard lineup, and current leader:

MSI x570 Unify

Seems to be the Mpower of this generation. No bling, lots of cooling, TONS of overclocking headroom...

Looks decent, and no stupid rgb