Opinion on possible new build

[Jackthedragonkiller [Chirch]]

Back again, so after learning of HDD failure in near future. Figured I might as well start planning on building a new pc since a lot of the stuff is nearing their final days (being most parts made in 2012-2015 time and the PC being 3 years old) so I went to google to find some parts that I'll use to build a new PC.

Mainly just want some insight from some people who know a thing or two about PCs and whether or not the parts I picked would be good enough for a guy who games a lot and if they're compatible with each other.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X @3.90 Ghz AM4 Socket

Motherboard: GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X

GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB GDDR6 VRAM

RAM: 2x CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4 @ 2400 mhz

PSU: Corsair CX-650

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 4TB HDD

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 120mm

Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF

A lot of the cables I'm probably gonna salvage from my current PC and ones that aren't compatible I'll just buy new ones. If these parts aren't compatible with one another please tell which ones that aren't and probably which ones I should change out.

NOTE: A lot of the listed specs above are probably gonna be changing as people reply and give me information on better/compatible parts.

[Snow]

i7-7700k is old overpriced CPU. Newegg says even used one will cost you $369. For that money you can get R7 3800x which has twice as much cores and threads.

[Jackthedragonkiller [Chirch]]

Ryzen 7? I thought about AMD but I've read a lot on the forums for games that AMD has a long track record with low single core speed which is why I wanted an Intel for favor of higher single core speed.

[_I_]

z390is for i series 8xxx-9xxx (1151v2)
https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-Z390-GAMING-PLUS#support-cpu

7700k is 1151v1, need z1xx-z2xx chipset if you have the cpu already

7700k oc'd is better for most games than ryzen
but its 4+ht cores limit its performance if you are doing vr or streaming
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/3647vs4040

8600k/9600k have 6 cores are better choices if you want to keep the z390 board option
or 8700k adds ht or 9700k adds 2 more cores, which help with higher threaded tasks

get a ssd for the os, that will make everything faster

[CursedPanther]

Publicado originalmente por Jackthedragonkiller:

Ryzen 7? I thought about AMD but I've read a lot on the forums for games that AMD has a long track record with low single core speed which is why I wanted an Intel for favor of higher single core speed.

That's old news for 1st Gen Ryzen which really was a problem still back in 2017. The 3800X now has a base clock of 3.9GHz and boostable to 4.5GHz, not nearly as bad as you'd imagine with the price also considered and the constant IPC improvements.

Still if you've made up your mind about Intel, why a 3 year old 7700K again and not the 9700K?

[Snow]

Publicado originalmente por Jackthedragonkiller:

Ryzen 7? I thought about AMD but I've read a lot on the forums for games that AMD has a long track record with low single core speed which is why I wanted an Intel for favor of higher single core speed.

The track record of AMD doing the same thing but way cheaper is way longer. They did indeed release pretty questionable products back in 2011, but it doesn't matter much these days. If you compare[cpu.userbenchmark.com] the latest i7 with the latest R7 - the single-core performance difference is within a margin of error, which makes buying Intel these days pretty much pointless. Also keep in mind most of the games are initially made for consoles, and next gen will have AMD CPUs inside as well, so it's basically few extra FPS now vs ability to play all games for way longer thanks to extra cores/threads AMD provide.

[Jackthedragonkiller [Chirch]]

Publicado originalmente por CursedPanther:

Publicado originalmente por Jackthedragonkiller:

Ryzen 7? I thought about AMD but I've read a lot on the forums for games that AMD has a long track record with low single core speed which is why I wanted an Intel for favor of higher single core speed.

That's old news for 1st Gen Ryzen which really was a problem still back in 2017. The 3800X now has a base clock of 3.9GHz and boostable to 4.5GHz, not nearly as bad as you'd imagine with the price also considered.

Still if you've made up your mind about Intel, why a 3 year old 7700K again and not the 9700K?

I'm not. I've switched over to the Ryzen CPU due to some real quick comparison and also realized it lists a higher chance of actually getting this PC lowering the price from almost $900 to around $800. Trying to keep her under 1,000 because that's more in my range and while also actually getting an upgrade from my current pc.

[N0REGARD4LIFE]

7700k won't work on a z390 board.

[Jackthedragonkiller [Chirch]]

Publicado originalmente por N0REGARD4LIFE:

7700k won't work on a z390 board.

Doesn't matter anyways, changing it due to above texts

[_I_]

either go intel 8xxx-9xxx k or ryzen
locked intel and ryzen are similar core performance and price, but ryzen adds smt

for 60hz ryzen is more than enough

newer games are starting to use more cores, but better core performance can give higher fps (when not gpu limited)

[hawkeye]

Forget userbenchmark scores, they are fairly meaningless and as recently been demonstrated they can't compare ryzen v intel, just ryzen v ryzen or intel v intel. Use real world framerate benchmarks.

Cheaper depends on the price you actually need to pay. Sales and special offers can make something expensive worth buying. Good decisions are about knowing the tech and deciding what is good value for you.

The first component that you need to select is the gpu. Gpus determine the framerate as anything but a top end gpu is going to limit cpu performance. Once is was about cpus but performance nowadays is more gpu dependent.

Gpus are increasingly expensive. If you go in too low then an upgrade is going to be doubly expensive.

Then the cpu. The two good options are ryzen 3600 or i7-9700k. The 9700k is faster but costs more. Framerate benchmarks show there isn't much difference - due to the gpu holding the 9700k back.

If you were into modded Bethesda games I'd go with an intel, based on fps benchmarks. Always check fps benchmarks.

Memory speed is important . ddr-3600 is becoming the norm.

If going intel, a Z mobo is almost mandatory as it is the only bios that supports fast ram. For ryzen, most mobos do.

Power supply ideally needs to be a tier A or B+ off this list.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Storage - nvme or ssd drives are used for speed. o/s and games go on these. Hard disk is for backup and important data.

o/s - possibly a new license will be required. New systems require win 10.

The right system depends a lot on the games you want to play and what your monitor specs are.

Old systems can often still be good performers with a better gpu.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Ryzen still a bit worse for games then again the i7 7700K is just quad core wheras the latest i9 9900K is octocore so there's that regardless. Compare the Ryzen to the 9900K and it will be somewhat worse for games but the 7700K is behind now.

[Cathulhu]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i9-9900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3800X/4028vs4047
Not that much of a difference but quite a bit cheaper.

[ugafan]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PYDPK4

[Snow]

Since R7 3800X comes with a pretty decent cooler, Hyper 212 ain't much of an upgrade. If I were you - I'd invest in Dark Rock Pro 4, that's one beast of a cooler. Also, since you're getting an aftermarket cooler, check if your local stores have R7 3800X OEM - not sure how it goes in your place, but where I live you can save some money buy getting OEM instead of BOX version. Basically, it's just CPU-only variant meant for companies who make pre-builts.

[fux]

Do you only game with it? If so I would rather get a ryzen 3600 and maybe squeeze a better gpu in. With ryzen you also want to get ddr4 3200 or 3600, they really benefit from faster ram. And you also should get a ssd, atleast one for the os but preferably for games too. I guess you can also use the hard drives from your old pc?