50hz 4K TV for PC and Console Gaming

[Rooby]

Yes, yes I know.... playing PC games on a TV - BURN HIM AT THE STAKE. Well, for reasons out of my control at the moment, I have no choice but to use a TV as a monitor.

I've recently purchased a PS4 Pro and decided to upgrade my TV for the first time in probably 5 years so obviously I've looked into 4K TVs.. however...

A lot of them are showing up as 50hz refresh rates - how would this affect my PC gaming experience? I don't have a high end system so I always aim for 1080p/60fps output

[↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect]

50hz tv's will only get you 50FPS.

[The Chicagoan]

Originally posted by Ruby:

Yes, yes I know.... playing PC games on a TV - BURN HIM AT THE STAKE. Well, for reasons out of my control at the moment, I have no choice but to use a TV as a monitor.

I've recently purchased a PS4 Pro and decided to upgrade my TV for the first time in probably 5 years so obviously I've looked into 4K TVs.. however...

A lot of them are showing up as 50hz refresh rates - how would this affect my PC gaming experience? I don't have a high end system so I always aim for 1080p/60fps output

Why 50HZ?

[Dïngus]

Tv's are also high latency.

But, if you want, go for a TCL 55S405. Or any TCL really. Best value for your $$$.

[Autumn_]

Originally posted by Connoisseur of Tanqueray:

50hz tv's will only get you 50FPS.

That's just wrong.

Originally posted by Ruby:

Yes, yes I know.... playing PC games on a TV - BURN HIM AT THE STAKE. Well, for reasons out of my control at the moment, I have no choice but to use a TV as a monitor.

I've recently purchased a PS4 Pro and decided to upgrade my TV for the first time in probably 5 years so obviously I've looked into 4K TVs.. however...

A lot of them are showing up as 50hz refresh rates - how would this affect my PC gaming experience? I don't have a high end system so I always aim for 1080p/60fps output

How it will affect you?
Noticable input lag, doesn't look as smooth, and hurts your eyes.

[Cloudy]

50Hz means you'll only be able to go up to 50 frames per secend in games, but thats not a big deal since a lot of games on PS4 can't hit that framerate anyways. There bigger issue using a TV for your display would be the input delay you get. Trying putting the display settings on the TV to "Game" mode. It make not be as good as a monitor, but it normally decreases the input delay quite a lot.

[↑↑↓↓←→←→BASelect]

Originally posted by Autumn:

Originally posted by Connoisseur of Tanqueray:

50hz tv's will only get you 50FPS.

That's just wrong.

Originally posted by Ruby:

Yes, yes I know.... playing PC games on a TV - BURN HIM AT THE STAKE. Well, for reasons out of my control at the moment, I have no choice but to use a TV as a monitor.

I've recently purchased a PS4 Pro and decided to upgrade my TV for the first time in probably 5 years so obviously I've looked into 4K TVs.. however...

A lot of them are showing up as 50hz refresh rates - how would this affect my PC gaming experience? I don't have a high end system so I always aim for 1080p/60fps output

How it will affect you?
Noticable input lag, doesn't look as smooth, and hurts your eyes.

No it's not. As fps is tied to your refresh hz of your monitor. Even the person below you said the same as me. Only way to get more is turn off vsync but then you get screen tearing.

[Autumn_]

Originally posted by Connoisseur of Tanqueray:

Originally posted by Autumn:

That's just wrong.


How it will affect you?
Noticable input lag, doesn't look as smooth, and hurts your eyes.

No it's not. As fps is tied to your refresh hz of your monitor. Even the person below you said the same as me. Only way to get more is turn off vsync but then you get screen tearing.

FPS isn't tied to refresh rate at all.
And just because someone else says it's right, doesn't mean it's correct.

And if you get enough FPS, the screen tearing can be minimal; so you would have even less input lag with minimal tearing.
(It would also depend on the game, but most of the time, you're good.)

Also, if you run with Vsync on, you're an idiot. It ruins immersion, and gives masive input lag, so you feel more disconnected with the world than you would with screen tearing.

[The Chicagoan]

Originally posted by Autumn:

Originally posted by Connoisseur of Tanqueray:

No it's not. As fps is tied to your refresh hz of your monitor. Even the person below you said the same as me. Only way to get more is turn off vsync but then you get screen tearing.

FPS isn't tied to refresh rate at all.
And just because someone else says it's right, doesn't mean it's correct.

And if you get enough FPS, the screen tearing can be minimal; so you would have even less input lag with minimal tearing.
(It would also depend on the game, but most of the time, you're good.)

Also, if you run with Vsync on, you're an idiot. It ruins immersion, and gives masive input lag, so you feel more disconnected with the world than you would with screen tearing.

I don't get input lag with vsync on but ok.

[Autumn_]

Originally posted by The Chicagoan:

Originally posted by Autumn:

FPS isn't tied to refresh rate at all.
And just because someone else says it's right, doesn't mean it's correct.

And if you get enough FPS, the screen tearing can be minimal; so you would have even less input lag with minimal tearing.
(It would also depend on the game, but most of the time, you're good.)

Also, if you run with Vsync on, you're an idiot. It ruins immersion, and gives masive input lag, so you feel more disconnected with the world than you would with screen tearing.

I don't get input lag with vsync on but ok.

144hz monitor? (You'll still get input lag, but it won't really be perceptible, because the monitor is updating so fast.)

Because if it's just 60hz, then you will get input lag. Period.

[The Chicagoan]

Originally posted by Autumn:

Originally posted by The Chicagoan:

I don't get input lag with vsync on but ok.

144hz monitor? (You'll still get input lag, but it won't really be perceptible, because the monitor is updating so fast.)

Because if it's just 60hz, then you will get input lag. Period.

I have a 60 Hz monitor, overclocked to 65 Hz and I don't get input lag. Even before I overclocked it still no input lag. No clue what you are talking about...

[Autumn_]

Originally posted by The Chicagoan:

Originally posted by Autumn:

144hz monitor? (You'll still get input lag, but it won't really be perceptible, because the monitor is updating so fast.)

Because if it's just 60hz, then you will get input lag. Period.

I have a 60 Hz monitor, overclocked to 65 Hz and I don't get input lag. Even before I overclocked it still no input lag. No clue what you are talking about...

Have you tried it without Vsync enabled at all? Because the difference in input is perceptible to even people with the worst eyes in the world.

[The Chicagoan]

Originally posted by Autumn:

Originally posted by The Chicagoan:

I have a 60 Hz monitor, overclocked to 65 Hz and I don't get input lag. Even before I overclocked it still no input lag. No clue what you are talking about...

Have you tried it without Vsync enabled at all? Because the difference in input is perceptible to even people with the worst eyes in the world.

I only use Vsync in certain games, like GTA 5 etc, esport titles I do not. I don't get any input lag at all.

[Autumn_]

Originally posted by The Chicagoan:

Originally posted by Autumn:

Have you tried it without Vsync enabled at all? Because the difference in input is perceptible to even people with the worst eyes in the world.

I only use Vsync in certain games, like GTA 5 etc, esport titles I do not. I don't get any input lag at all.

What monitor do you have exactly? Because I'd like to know what magic it uses to not have any input lag.

And, you're telling me, if you play a game of CS, and enable Vsync halfway through, there is no change in how it feels?

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Cloudy Canadian:

50Hz means you'll only be able to go up to 50 frames per secend in games, but thats not a big deal since a lot of games on PS4 can't hit that framerate anyways. There bigger issue using a TV for your display would be the input delay you get. Trying putting the display settings on the TV to "Game" mode. It make not be as good as a monitor, but it normally decreases the input delay quite a lot.

That was the best answer so far. Check that your TV has a Game mode to reduce input lag. If your PC can't render 4k with robustly high FPS and your TV will have to upscale the picture, it will add a bit to lag. But, unless you're a highly competitive MP player, you'll be generally fine. Your results will be worse than with a display, but playing on TV is not THAT dramatic.

[The Chicagoan]

Originally posted by Autumn:

Originally posted by The Chicagoan:

I only use Vsync in certain games, like GTA 5 etc, esport titles I do not. I don't get any input lag at all.

What monitor do you have exactly? Because I'd like to know what magic it uses to not have any input lag.

And, you're telling me, if you play a game of CS, and enable Vsync halfway through, there is no change in how it feels?

Sure in CSGO it has input lag, I was always aware of that. That's why I don't use VSYNC in CSGO. But in games like GTA 5, Hitman, Max Payne, Beamng Drive, Rocket League. I don't get input lag. CSGO is the only game in my library that does that.