CPU Usage always 100%when gaming and sometimes at 60%+ while browsing chrome.

[Alex]

Here's my setup:
MSI H110M PRO-VH
Intel Core I5-7500
NVIDIA GTX 960 4GB
8GB DDR4

I keep getting 100% CPU usage on any modern game I play, be it COD Blops 4 / Assassin's Creed Odyssey / Rainbox Six Siege / DOOM / etc, but from what i read online and saw from people recording gameplay with a setup exactly like mine get way better perfomance on all games (above 60fps while maxed on some of them), I think my CPU is under performing significantly.

I've tried benchmarking it to see if it had anything to do with temps but they seem fine. (Tested with OCCT for both CPU and GPU and got 42º average for CPU and 37º average for GPU). Tried reinstalling windows and fully formated my storage so it shouldn't be a virus. I could do some more benchmarks but tell me exactly what to look for since i'm kind of a noob when it comes to this stuff.

I already got a new GPU on the way, but i think the same thing might still happen.

Any help is appreciated and happy new year everyone

[hawkeye]

I think that i5's often display 100% usage on all cores. It seems to be common. I once did a test with an i7. I let in run hyperthreaded and msi afterburner showed variable loads on each core. Then turned off hyperthreading so that it was an i5 and got unwavering 100% on all cores.

hwinfo64 checks for thermal throttling and displays a yes/no in its sensor report.

I doubt that an i5-7500 gtx960 would get 60fps on ACO. 30-40 fps would be my guess at 1080p.

If you want to run diagnostics, I would run Passmark as it checks each component individually and compares it to what other people have. Keep a record of the numeric scores for a before/after when the new gpu arrives. It's possible a better gpu will allow the cpu to tun faster.

sisoftsandra can also do a diagnostic check.

The H110m has reduced i/o lanes so that could contribute to poor performance. But I don't know enough about that. Memory might be a factor, but I doubt it. I just think that you might be expecting too much. A better gpu should help. Make sure the mobo has the latest bios.

So check the performance scores of each component.

[r.linder]

The GTX 960 is only slightly better than a 1050 Ti. You're not going to get amazing FPS at 1080p on a lot of newer titles on settings above low or medium, period.

[Alex]

Цитата допису hawkeye:

I think that i5's often display 100% usage on all cores. It seems to be common. I once did a test with an i7. I let in run hyperthreaded and msi afterburner showed variable loads on each core. Then turned off hyperthreading so that it was an i5 and got unwavering 100% on all cores.

hwinfo64 checks for thermal throttling and displays a yes/no in its sensor report.

I doubt that an i5-7500 gtx960 would get 60fps on ACO. 30-40 fps would be my guess at 1080p.

If you want to run diagnostics, I would run Passmark as it checks each component individually and compares it to what other people have. Keep a record of the numeric scores for a before/after when the new gpu arrives. It's possible a better gpu will allow the cpu to tun faster.

sisoftsandra can also do a diagnostic check.

The H110m has reduced i/o lanes so that could contribute to poor performance. But I don't know enough about that. Memory might be a factor, but I doubt it. I just think that you might be expecting too much. A better gpu should help. Make sure the mobo has the latest bios.

So check the performance scores of each component.

Thanks for the detailed reply! Yeah ACO probably doesn't run at 60fps, but i definetly saw a lot of people running BF1/Black Ops 4/DOOM and several others at 60fps or more, that's why I made the discussion , but maybe as you said I'm expecting a bit too much.

On hwinfo64 it says i have no thermal throttling .

I ran Passmark Performance Test and got this [gyazo.com]

My RAM is single stick, would it help if I got a second 8 gb stick?

Thank you very much for the recommendations !

[Guydodge]

i saw this on internet might want to check for things like this 60% while browsing kinda makes me think possible malware.should be nowhere near that.this is from same cpu as yours he was 100%ing as well.

""I tracked my problem down to a malware called Conduit Search. After killing the process and then uninstalling the program, the CPU utilization has gone down to 3-4%.""
maybe it applies to you

[Alex]

Цитата допису Guydodge:

i saw this on internet might want to check for things like this 60% while browsing kinda makes me think possible malware.this is from same cpu as yours he was 100%ing as well

""I tracked my problem down to a malware called Conduit Search. After killing the process and then uninstalling the program, the CPU utilization has gone down to 3-4%.""
maybe it applies to you

I don't see anything eating my process on task manager. Also this is a pretty clean windows install since i formatted all my disks and only recently installed some games.

[Guydodge]

try uninstalling chrome 60% is way overboard should see a spike between searches but should drop back down to idle once there.even during vidio play should only be slightly above idle.seems like a smoking gun

[hawkeye]

Passmark results (yours / their published figures) -

i5-7500 - 6563 / 8026 - this is about 20% lower than the rated score. More like i5-7300 performance. Could be random, could be other users have faster memory in better mobos giving better scores. The h110 is a base model originally designed for 6th gen processors. Could be other junk running on the pc like browsers. Check that the pc bios is set for high performance, ditto with windows power plan.

edit - what's the single thread score for the cpu?

In the passmark app, use the compare results menu item to search for pc's with the same config as you (this is free for 30 days afaik).

gtx960 - 6395 / 5806 - ok.

Overall it says that the pc is in the 85th percentile, which sounds good but I'd check the i5-7500 settings just in case. Run sisoftsandra to see what it says.

The Passmark benchmark scores are found under the benchmarks menu on their homepage.

Regarding extra memory, you can check it by running resmon, looking at the memory tab. The bar at the bottom shows if there is free memory or not. Do it in-game.

[Guydodge]

in cpu-z you can bench and compare and check out your specs as well

[ugafan]

open chrome and task manager. drag chrome window to one side of the screen and task manager to the other.

look at the processes while browsing. click on cpu to show what is using the highest percentage.

besides chrome, what else has a high percentage?

[Raged Against the Monitor]

I have the same problems with the cpu, but only in gaming, never in browsing. Still no idea how to fix that.

[Autumn_]

Цитата допису Fyodss:

I have the same problems with the cpu, but only in gaming, never in browsing. Still no idea how to fix that.

If it's an older Quadcore CPU in modern titles, there is no fix other than 4k, but you'd need a GPU to push it.
But you'd be bottlenecking it with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ CPU then.

So long as you're not experiencing any framedrops/sutters/lag (and other programs are fine), it's nothing to worry about.
If you are, then you may want to consider a CPU upgrade.

[Buck]

Well, what's actually running? That CPU is only 2 years old, so it would be highly abnormal for any one single application to fully saturate a CPU. You probably have alot of other open apps that are also using CPU time. Open Task Manager, click on CPU to get it to sort by CPU utilization, then go about shutting down any apps running that are using CPU time. Browsers with alot of tabs open or that are running video tend to use quite a bit of CPU time. Crappy Anti-virus and Security programs tend to abuse the CPU too.

[Alex]

Цитата допису Buck:

Well, what's actually running? That CPU is only 2 years old, so it would be highly abnormal for any one single application to fully saturate a CPU. You probably have alot of other open apps that are also using CPU time. Open Task Manager, click on CPU to get it to sort by CPU utilization, then go about shutting down any apps running that are using CPU time. Browsers with alot of tabs open or that are running video tend to use quite a bit of CPU time. Crappy Anti-virus and Security programs tend to abuse the CPU too.

Only things i use consistently are Discord, Malwarebytes and Spotify, the rest are only system apps. Seems weird that my CPU is maxed with any new AAA game on low and I get significant frame drops all the time, when on all benchmarks people do with the same CPU / GPU on high or ultra are solid 60fps. So I'm not sure if that's the problem, haven't tested tho, might be it.

I've also tried a few other things, updating CPU / Mobo drivers and updating BIOS but that did nothing significant as well. Maybe an update is in order for my 2 year old CPU lol.

[Autumn_]

Well. My i5-6600k is pegged at 95-100% in nearly every game I play. And I've tested it with just steam running.

Even CS go uses 70+%on all threads.

I've said it for ages. Quadcores are the new dualcores. Useless in todays day and age.

[hawkeye]

Цитата допису .Alex.:

Цитата допису Buck:

Well, what's actually running? That CPU is only 2 years old, so it would be highly abnormal for any one single application to fully saturate a CPU. You probably have alot of other open apps that are also using CPU time. Open Task Manager, click on CPU to get it to sort by CPU utilization, then go about shutting down any apps running that are using CPU time. Browsers with alot of tabs open or that are running video tend to use quite a bit of CPU time. Crappy Anti-virus and Security programs tend to abuse the CPU too.

Only things i use consistently are Discord, Malwarebytes and Spotify, the rest are only system apps. Seems weird that my CPU is maxed with any new AAA game on low and I get significant frame drops all the time, when on all benchmarks people do with the same CPU / GPU on high or ultra are solid 60fps. So I'm not sure if that's the problem, haven't tested tho, might be it.

I've also tried a few other things, updating CPU / Mobo drivers and updating BIOS but that did nothing significant as well. Maybe an update is in order for my 2 year old CPU lol.

What happens if you turn off discord and spotify? They are known cpu hogs. Google for posts about discord and spotify high cpu usage. They might also be using the memory, causing swapping which will reduce performance.

i5-7's have 4 cpu threads to do the work. If discord and spotify are using one, that's three left for the o/s and the game. i7-7's have 8 cpu threads, that leaves 7.

Games have up to 80 threads. The main game thread(s) benefit from having one cpu thread each.