How do i know my mouse is wearing down?

[mist or beast]

Sometimes when I hold down left click, it randomly releases.
So for example when I'm playing csgo and I preparing my grenade it just randomly throws.
When I try to tap the button, sometimes it won't click/it will hold it down longer than I pressed it for.

Do I need a new mouse? Or is there a way to fix this.

[shoopy]

Some times all you need is a shim under the plastic mouse button. On my previous mouse I used a small square of gorilla tape to get a more solid press on the switch.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

When pieces start to fall off.

[Talby]

引用自 Autumn_：

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引用自 Talby：

Avoid D2FC and get the D2F (Japan part numbers), they are much more reliable

D2F-01 (150gf)[www.digikey.com] normal weight / tactile
D2F-01F (75gf)[www.digikey.com] light weight / less tactile

I have read that people have clearance issues with D2Fs, since they're slightly taller, though I've read the spec sheets, and it appears to be a tiny negligible amount.
(You could always swap stem/plungers, so it doesn't seem to be an issue.)

Though, the Japanese ones don't seem that much better (feel wise), I see mixed reviews on them.

I still recommend Kailh GM 4.0 or 8.0s.

This is what sold me on the D2F models (from Definitive Omron Switch Guide for Mice[geekhack.org])

引用自 geekhack：

...D2F = Japanese (always has Japan molded into top along with Omron label)
D2FC = China (may have China painted on side or top, or just a “C” in the model #)

Chinese models are mass produced and are considered to be a bit sloppy in tolerances, so one may have an actuation point a bit higher than another. Tolerances on these are pretty small so you probably wouldn't notice, but just know that they are more sloppy than the Japanese models.

Japanese models have much nicer internals, better tolerances, better metals,a stronger frame and are better sealed from dirt and moisture. They are also slightly taller (0.08mm) and have a shorter actuation distance but it’s close enough to be a drop in replacement.

Warning.
While you can use a normal D2FC in a modern mouse, it will be inconsistent and fail very early. See the -K designation below....

Sounded like they are suffering from a similar fate as Cherry, where lack of updating the manufacturing process is getting worse over time (my G-Pro started double clicking last week! Had to get a G203 as a temp measure, thankfully they are on sale for $15[www.bestbuy.com])

Curious about the Kailh and Huano switches will take a look at those, was going to order replacements over the holiday weekend

引用自 door：

Not to attack anyone or anything but how did my 2~ year old thread get revived again lmfao.

I totally missed this was a necro!! Agree there are some good details in here, the Omron switch failures go way back into 2014 (as I recall) - sad the mouse manufacturers still normalize ones that are plagued with inconsistent performance in hail to globalization and leave users to brunt the problems while they sow profits... The new normal I guess :(

[Out Of Bubblegum]

引用自 tℨopc：

... causes the click spring to warp. This can be fixed by bending the spring but not everyone is capable of doing that kind of thing.

How? Is there instructions somewhere or a video? I probably can't do it either but I would like to see how. I have a "useless" 602 I could try it on.

Is it ever a problem from oxidation? Would contact cleaner help?

[Talby]

引用自 Out Of Bubblegum：

引用自 tℨopc：

... causes the click spring to warp. This can be fixed by bending the spring but not everyone is capable of doing that kind of thing.

How? Is there instructions somewhere or a video? I probably can't do it either but I would like to see how. I have a "useless" 602 I could try it on.

Is it ever a problem from oxidation? Would contact cleaner help?

If you are going to get it to that point use a polishing type cloth or dremel bit, will get rid of any crud on the metal contacts then hit it with contact cleaner (will get rid of any thing left over from the polishing)

these show switch disassembly pretty well:

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/29955/how-do-i-fix-an-omron-d2fc-f-7n-microswitch-from-unwanted-clicks

https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/blog/features/modding-guides/double-click-problem-faulty-mouse-button-repair-r152/

[Out Of Bubblegum]

引用自 Talby：

引用自 Out Of Bubblegum：

How? Is there instructions somewhere or a video? I probably can't do it either but I would like to see how. I have a "useless" 602 I could try it on.

Is it ever a problem from oxidation? Would contact cleaner help?

If you are going to get it to that point use a polishing type cloth or dremel bit, will get rid of any crud on the metal contacts then hit it with contact cleaner (will get rid of any thing left over from the polishing)

these show switch disassembly pretty well:

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/29955/how-do-i-fix-an-omron-d2fc-f-7n-microswitch-from-unwanted-clicks

https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/blog/features/modding-guides/double-click-problem-faulty-mouse-button-repair-r152/

Oh. Just had a thought. Going as far as opening the switch. I could swap the spring from a little used button instead of trying to bend it.

But what about the pads? I tried to open an old Logitech once. You must remove the pads to get to the screws. The pads do not want to come off. 15 minute repair? LOL It takes more than that to try and remove the pads for reuse. Either buy new pads for a price or somehow glue them back in a way that they can be removed again. No epoxy or superglue :)

[Talby]

Need some precision tools, like the ones used in this vid (if the time links works, at 2:26 just in case)

https://youtu.be/g_Ie6LLq_H0?t=146

Trick is to get under the adhesive if at all possible, heating up with a hair dryer (or carefully a heat gun) helps

ebay or aliexpress are your best sources for the feet, when all cleaned up the self-adhesive should work well enough, never thought to use any glues or gels to re-use the old ones

[Autumn_]

引用自 Out Of Bubblegum：

引用自 Talby：

If you are going to get it to that point use a polishing type cloth or dremel bit, will get rid of any crud on the metal contacts then hit it with contact cleaner (will get rid of any thing left over from the polishing)

these show switch disassembly pretty well:

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/29955/how-do-i-fix-an-omron-d2fc-f-7n-microswitch-from-unwanted-clicks

https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/blog/features/modding-guides/double-click-problem-faulty-mouse-button-repair-r152/

Oh. Just had a thought. Going as far as opening the switch. I could swap the spring from a little used button instead of trying to bend it.

But what about the pads? I tried to open an old Logitech once. You must remove the pads to get to the screws. The pads do not want to come off. 15 minute repair? LOL It takes more than that to try and remove the pads for reuse. Either buy new pads for a price or somehow glue them back in a way that they can be removed again. No epoxy or superglue :)

Just stick a thin screwdriver under the glue and lift a little (don't bend the pad, or tear the glue), took me 20 seconds to take each pad off my G203, it's not hard.
The glue resticks just fine.

New skates/feet come with adhesive backing.

引用自 Talby：

Need some precision tools, like the ones used in this vid (if the time links works, at 2:26 just in case)

https://youtu.be/g_Ie6LLq_H0?t=146

Trick is to get under the adhesive if at all possible, heating up with a hair dryer (or carefully a heat gun) helps

ebay or aliexpress are your best sources for the feet, when all cleaned up the self-adhesive should work well enough, never thought to use any glues or gels to re-use the old ones

I would recommend companies like Corepads, or Hyperglides. A little more expensive, but their feet are much better.
8 euro isn't much for 99-100% PTFE feet that'll last you ~2 years, and improve the feel of the mouse.

引用自 tℨopc：

引用自 Talby：

I totally missed this was a necro!! Agree there are some good details in here, the Omron switch failures go way back into 2014 (as I recall) - sad the mouse manufacturers still normalize ones that are plagued with inconsistent performance in hail to globalization and leave users to brunt the problems while they sow profits... The new normal I guess :(

Haven't seen anything that isn't standard. The main issue with any mouse is simply putting too much pressure on the mouse button during gaming causes the click spring to warp. This can be fixed by bending the spring but not everyone is capable of doing that kind of thing.

I have put a very unreasonable amount of force on all of the mice I've used, I haven't experienced an issue with the springs bending, not saying it's impossible, but it doesn't seem likely.

Why bother bending it back, you can buy a new switch for pennies (if you buy a couple in bulk), not worth the trouble, and if you bend it wrong, it could ♥♥♥♥ the feel of it.

引用自 Out Of Bubblegum：

引用自 tℨopc：

... causes the click spring to warp. This can be fixed by bending the spring but not everyone is capable of doing that kind of thing.

How? Is there instructions somewhere or a video? I probably can't do it either but I would like to see how. I have a "useless" 602 I could try it on.

Is it ever a problem from oxidation? Would contact cleaner help?

The switches springs and contacts are plated in metals that don't oxidise.

I've heard reports of people using contact cleaner, but I don't believe it.

You could try it, if it doesn't work, no loss.

[Grobar]

引用自 Pocket Lint：

Sometimes when I hold down left click, it randomly releases.
So for example when I'm playing csgo and I preparing my grenade it just randomly throws.
When I try to tap the button, sometimes it won't click/it will hold it down longer than I pressed it for.

Do I need a new mouse? Or is there a way to fix this.

I had the same problem. I'm using HyperX Pulsefire Surge that is 1 year old. I found that switching the USB ports solved the problem for me.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

引用自 tvoja wifu：

引用自 Pocket Lint：

Sometimes when I hold down left click, it randomly releases.
So for example when I'm playing csgo and I preparing my grenade it just randomly throws.
When I try to tap the button, sometimes it won't click/it will hold it down longer than I pressed it for.

Do I need a new mouse? Or is there a way to fix this.

I had the same problem. I'm using HyperX Pulsefire Surge that is 1 year old. I found that switching the USB ports solved the problem for me.

Keyboard, Mouse and Game Controller should be on a USB Port that is its own hub.
Meaning do not plug them into a grouping of ports directly next to one another, as this is the same hub with regards to how its wired to the motherboard, thus can present issues with some combinations of certain input devices. It is a much more of a rare occurrence on modern PCs, but it still can occur.

Here's an example using a Desktop Motherboard Rear I/O

[ USB Keyboard Input ] [ USB Keyboard Hub or LEDs ]
[ Empty ] [ Empty ]
[ USB Mouse ] [ Empty ]
[ USB Game Controller ] [ Empty ]

Each instance of [ ] prepresents a USB Port. Each line of USB Ports shown above are each on their own hub. Each 2 ports are shared. On some Motherboards however it can be as many as 3-5 that are shared on the same hub. You can usually find out which USB plugged in devices are on a shared hub in Windows OS by viewing Device Manager > USB Root Hub > Properties > Power tab.