1080 Ti ryzen 1600 OR gtx 1080 i7 7700k

[Carlos]

Title, Which one is better for Gaming.

Also, how much fps difference is there between the cpus in a game like modded Skyrim that uses multiple cores terribly?

I play 1080p btw.

[Carlos]

Publicado originalmente por hawkeye:

Skyrim and nearly all AAA rpg's run better with a cpu that has a high single-thread speed. Modded skyrim with skse in particular as skse is a scripting language and not executable code. Scripts run slow, so the faster the cpu core the better the fps.
Fallout 4 performance is worse than skyrim.

List of cpu single-thread benchmarks here -
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Regarding graphics, modded Skyrim can be gpu heavy. I bought a 1080ti just to run modded skyrim at 1080p at 60fps. However there is an ini file fix that uncaps the framerate without causing problems with the physics engine. So it's worthwhile getting a good gpu.

(The new rtx cards do not have dvi connectors. So if you want a gpu capable of driving dvi dual-link monitors like the early asus vg278's at 120hz then you need a gtx. You can use a connector cable but these are limited to 60hz. Hence the run on high-end gtx's.)

Wait so I dont know what you mean completely, so if I use only one monitor it can have as many hz as I want but if I decide to use dual monitors they cant go above 60hz?

And btw did you manage to have 60fps everywhere with that setup? And what graphical mods did you use? And what cpu do you use

[Monk]

If they are the same price, buy the newer, faster card.

Which 1080ti is it? Can you link it?

[calluM]

Publicado originalmente por Carlosmann100:

Publicado originalmente por hawkeye:

Skyrim and nearly all AAA rpg's run better with a cpu that has a high single-thread speed. Modded skyrim with skse in particular as skse is a scripting language and not executable code. Scripts run slow, so the faster the cpu core the better the fps.
Fallout 4 performance is worse than skyrim.

List of cpu single-thread benchmarks here -
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Regarding graphics, modded Skyrim can be gpu heavy. I bought a 1080ti just to run modded skyrim at 1080p at 60fps. However there is an ini file fix that uncaps the framerate without causing problems with the physics engine. So it's worthwhile getting a good gpu.

(The new rtx cards do not have dvi connectors. So if you want a gpu capable of driving dvi dual-link monitors like the early asus vg278's at 120hz then you need a gtx. You can use a connector cable but these are limited to 60hz. Hence the run on high-end gtx's.)

Wait so I dont know what you mean completely, so if I use only one monitor it can have as many hz as I want but if I decide to use dual monitors they cant go above 60hz?

And btw did you manage to have 60fps everywhere with that setup? And what graphical mods did you use? And what cpu do you use

Monitors will only work at their maximum designed frequency. If you have one monitor that is 75Hz, it will only work at any refresh rate up to 75Hz. If you have two monitors, one 240Hz, the other 144Hz, they will both work at their given refresh rate.

A 1080 Ti is extremely overkill for 1080p 60Hz gaming. If you're going to get a high end GPU, you're going to atleast want a 144hz monitor, otherwise it's a complete waste of the cards potential.

If you're going to get a 1080 Ti, you may as well get a RTX 2080. Similar performance, but the RTX will be supported for longer as it's a new card.

[HALO_run]

Publicado originalmente por Carlosmann100:

Publicado originalmente por Monk:

You won't get a 1080ti as they have pretty much sold out by now.

At 1080p 60 a 2080 would be wasted. So I'd look at a 1070 or 2070 to be honest.

You have to be joking right? Why would the 1080 ti be out of stock when the older cards arent?

Edit: I just looked it up, darn, though they are not out of stock in my country anyway.

ebay mate

[Monk]

So the same price for a second hand card as a faster new one.... Yep, sounds a great plan (should be noted I have 2 of them already, with this kind of logic I'm laughing when I want to upgrade them lol)

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

get the better card 1080ti and the cheaper chip

[flya00]

I would look into a 9700k or 8700k and 1080 if possible?

[hawkeye]

Publicado originalmente por Carlosmann100:

Publicado originalmente por hawkeye:

Skyrim and nearly all AAA rpg's run better with a cpu that has a high single-thread speed. Modded skyrim with skse in particular as skse is a scripting language and not executable code. Scripts run slow, so the faster the cpu core the better the fps.
Fallout 4 performance is worse than skyrim.

List of cpu single-thread benchmarks here -
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Regarding graphics, modded Skyrim can be gpu heavy. I bought a 1080ti just to run modded skyrim at 1080p at 60fps. However there is an ini file fix that uncaps the framerate without causing problems with the physics engine. So it's worthwhile getting a good gpu.

(The new rtx cards do not have dvi connectors. So if you want a gpu capable of driving dvi dual-link monitors like the early asus vg278's at 120hz then you need a gtx. You can use a connector cable but these are limited to 60hz. Hence the run on high-end gtx's.)

Wait so I dont know what you mean completely, so if I use only one monitor it can have as many hz as I want but if I decide to use dual monitors they cant go above 60hz?

And btw did you manage to have 60fps everywhere with that setup? And what graphical mods did you use? And what cpu do you use

The best place to ask skyrim specific questions is on the relevant skyrim game forum. There are 2 versions of the game. Skyrim Legendary Edition (the original version) and Skyrim Special Edition (a re-release). Many serious modders use the LE version as it can produce better graphics than the SE version.

At the moment I am re-modding the LE version using mods I haven't used before. I'm using an i7-2600, gtx1080ti, 144hz monitor at 1080p. On vanilla (no mods) I get 200fps. However when fully modded the performance will drop significantly. How much depends on the mods. The intention is to put it on a 4K system, i7-8700k, gtx 1080ti.

The reference to monitors was just to explain why 1080ti's are being bought up quickly. There are millions of monitors out there that require a DVI-D link between the pc and the monitor to run at 144hz. The new rtx series of graphics cards no longer support DVI-D, only the gtx series does.

[Carlos]

Thank for clearing up the confusion. Again I'm using the ryzen 1600 atm and 1060 looking to upgrade my gpu. I play on SE because of 64 bit and better multithread support.

Another question is currently with my setup with lots of grass, tree and a weather mod I can maintain 60 fps. But when I add an enb I go down to - 53fps on some places. Though it also depends on what enb I use.

So if I upgrade to the 1080 ti how much more performance would I get compared to the 1060? Maybe I Could finally have 60 fps with an high end enb.

[Enemy Unknown]

First hand, CPU you should look for highest GHz, instead of more cores.

Also 1080ti compared to 1060 is like a Rabbit against a Wolf.

Important for your mods are VRAM. Ye more, ye better! Also important for enhanced Texture packs (often called Ultra or 4k packs).

But to be honest, an rtx2080 would by the end far better choise as an 1080ti.

[Carlos]

Publicado originalmente por Enemy Unknown:

First hand, CPU you should look for highest GHz, instead of more cores.

Also 1080ti compared to 1060 is like a Rabbit against a Wolf.

Important for your mods are VRAM. Ye more, ye better! Also important for enhanced Texture packs (often called Ultra or 4k packs).

But to be honest, an rtx2080 would by the end far better choise as an 1080ti.

I’m only gonna be using 2k textures because my monitor is only 1080p. But do you mean I should use 4k textures anyway to avoid cpu bottleneck?

Also, how much Watt does a rtx 2080 need? I have 600w which I’ve read is enough for a 1080 ti but I’m not sure about the rtx 2080.

[calluM]

Publicado originalmente por Carlosmann100:

Publicado originalmente por Enemy Unknown:

First hand, CPU you should look for highest GHz, instead of more cores.

Also 1080ti compared to 1060 is like a Rabbit against a Wolf.

Important for your mods are VRAM. Ye more, ye better! Also important for enhanced Texture packs (often called Ultra or 4k packs).

But to be honest, an rtx2080 would by the end far better choise as an 1080ti.

I’m only gonna be using 2k textures because my monitor is only 1080p. But do you mean I should use 4k textures anyway to avoid cpu bottleneck?

Also, how much Watt does a rtx 2080 need? I have 600w which I’ve read is enough for a 1080 ti but I’m not sure about the rtx 2080.

600W should be enough imo

[Enemy Unknown]

Depends how much power it has on one rail.
If it is not a china cracker, 600W should be enough for rtx 2080. I use also an 600W from Cougar for my RTX 2080ti.

Well, both, the 1080ti or the 2080 are far superior for your 1080p (HD) resolution. It will slow down your GPU alot.

For such Beasts of GPU i would recommend perfectly WQHD with full details. Or 4K with medium details, some high.


For your Skyrim, if u really only want to play this title, on 1080p (HD) resolution, i would suggest a RTX 2070. You can play with Ultra on 1080p (HD) and it has 8GB VRAM, that should allow you to load up many mods and ultra textures.

[Carlos]

Publicado originalmente por Enemy Unknown:

Depends how much power it has on one rail.
If it is not a china cracker, 600W should be enough for rtx 2080. I use also an 600W from Cougar for my RTX 2080ti.

Well, both, the 1080ti or the 2080 are far superior for your 1080p (HD) resolution. It will slow down your GPU alot.

For such Beasts of GPU i would recommend perfectly WQHD with full details. Or 4K with medium details, some high.


For your Skyrim, if u really only want to play this title, on 1080p (HD) resolution, i would suggest a RTX 2070. You can play with Ultra on 1080p (HD) and it has 8GB VRAM, that should allow you to load up many mods and ultra textures.

I'd rather get a stronger upgrade than only the rtx 2070. Thats like the equivelent of a 1070 or 1070 ti.

Also you didnt really answer my question, can I lower my bottleneck if I use 4k textures?

[calluM]

You're going really overkill if you stick to 1080p if you get either a 1080 Ti or an RTX 2080. Those cards work best at 2K (WQHD) and 4k resolutions. If you're going to get either of them, I'd suggest atleast getting a 4k60hz monitor, you can find used ones and in some places new ones for less than £200/€200