Hot I7 7700k temps? 82c max seen.

[Nightz]

I've seen 82c max when gaming, but it mostly sits around 50 - 60 when playing games like fortnite, but seems to have a spike of like 70 - 80? Any suggestions, heard i7 7700k's are hot, Would a bios update help? i currently have a asus maximus viii hero, bios version 3401. If this doesn't help can someone tell me the best undervoltage for my cpu.
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 evo
Cheers

[Nightz]

The Chicagoan eredeti hozzászólása:

Nightz eredeti hozzászólása:

After going into he bios I realised my cpu was running at 1.216v would lowering that to 1.2 help a lot?

It can lower your temps, but it can also make your CPU unsstable and bluescreen, it won't hurt or kill your cpu though. But you can try to turn it down a bit, run some stress tests for a few hours to ensure your CPU runs stable at 1.2 volts.

Pretty sure the 7700k runs at 1.2v stock

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Why is everyone suggesting all these coolers and changing things and all this other nonsense? 83~90c is 100% completely and perfectly normal for a 7700K. They're hot chips and they run hot. Nightz: Don't do anything and just go play games and be happy. Everything's fine. Enjoy your chip and stop worrying. Even if the chip some how did get hot enough to trigger ITP (Intel Thermal Protection) @ 105c it would just reduce the Mhz speed and throttle down a little. You can't harm Intel chips in their stock form, at stock speeds, with bios settings @ defaults.

[tacoshy]

Escorve eredeti hozzászólása:

Nightz eredeti hozzászólása:

Might save for a delid kit and some liquid metal, would delidding be worth it? Is it hard to do?
What glue would i need to glue it back on
What is the best liquid metal
What is the best kit.
Thanks

1. Do not delid. It's not worth potentially destroying your CPU.
2. Once you delid, you can't relid the CPU. It's permanent, and coolers will just directly contact with the die.
3. Thermal Grizzly's Conductonaut. However, liquid metal reacts poorly with alluminium, causing it to corrode. It also will not make a substantial difference in temperatures so it's not worthwhile in most cases. The best paste for air cooling is Arctic MX-4 and Noctua NT-H1, and the best paste for liquid cooling is Thermal Grizzly's Kryonaut.

BS you use silicon glue to put the ihs back on the PCB.
Delidding with a tool is pretty much idiot proof.
You use LM between IHS and Die. Nothing from alumunium there.

Delidding gives the best temperature advantages and I would never go back to non Delidded CPU's personally.

[Nightz]

Impending Rentacle Tape eredeti hozzászólása:

Why is everyone suggesting all these coolers and changing things and all this other nonsense? 83~90c is 100% completely and perfectly normal for a 7700K. They're hot chips and they run hot. Nightz: Don't do anything and just go play games and be happy. Everything's fine. Enjoy your chip and stop worrying. Even if the chip some how did get hot enough to trigger ITP (Intel Thermal Protection) @ 105c it would just reduce the Mhz speed and throttle down a little. You can't harm Intel chips in their stock form, at stock speeds, with bios settings @ defaults.

Hmm it's just when I search things up they are like that's high idk. I mean I guess it ain't bad as my cpu only spikes to 80c for like a second max I got today was 74c when Gamingit mostly stays between 55 -65

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Nightz eredeti hozzászólása:

Hmm it's just when I search things up they are like that's high idk. I mean I guess it ain't bad as my cpu only spikes to 80c for like a second max I got today was 74c when Gamingit mostly stays between 55 -65

Here: https://ark.intel.com/products/97129/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4-50-GHz-

This is the official Intel ARK specifications page for your 7700K. Control-F or scroll down to "Package Specifications" and read where it says "TJUNCTION 100°C". Officially, per Intel, your processor's maximum temperature is rated for up to 100c. And even if the chip did some how make it to 100c, thermal protection would kick in and just reduce speeds (Throttling). You're -WELL- under the max for your chip so don't worry. Just go game and forget monitoring it and everything's hunky dory.

[Monk]

Escorve eredeti hozzászólása:

Nightz eredeti hozzászólása:

Might save for a delid kit and some liquid metal, would delidding be worth it? Is it hard to do?
What glue would i need to glue it back on
What is the best liquid metal
What is the best kit.
Thanks

1. Do not delid. It's not worth potentially destroying your CPU.
2. Once you delid, you can't relid the CPU. It's permanent, and coolers will just directly contact with the die.
3. Thermal Grizzly's Conductonaut. However, liquid metal reacts poorly with alluminium, causing it to corrode. It also will not make a substantial difference in temperatures so it's not worthwhile in most cases. The best paste for air cooling is Arctic MX-4 and Noctua NT-H1, and the best paste for liquid cooling is Thermal Grizzly's Kryonaut.

This is largely a massive load of rubbish lol.

The correct bits, liquid metal does react badly with aluminium and delid ding does have a risk.

Most good coolers have a copper base plate so there isn't an issue there (the ihs is also copper).

There is a huge temperature drop from delidding, mostly in the 15-20c range and you refit the ihs afterwards either loose of with a bit of silicon glue, leaving the ihs off is even more effective (direct die cooling) , however you need special mounts / blocks to mount the cooler directly to the chip so you don't crack it, this is Not recommended to anyone who has to ask about it and is very much at the extreme end of enthusiast mods.

The type of cooler used, be it tower, aio or custom loop cares not for the type of paste used and you can use any for any if them and the performance of the good pastes is all about equal.
The exception is if you go LN2 sub ambiant where you don't use liquid metal as it freezes and there are pastes especially designed for super low temperatures.

Ahh got to love it when 3 people who actually oc and tweak seriously all post at the same time pretty much the same thing disagreeing with those who don't, I wonder which set of advice is best, that from the actual enthusiasts and over clockers or the others...

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Monk eredeti hozzászólása:

Ahh got to love it when 3 people who actually oc and tweak seriously all post at the same time pretty much the same thing disagreeing with those who don't, I wonder which set of advice is best, that from the actual enthusiasts and over clockers or the others...

The best advice is probably mine: Just use the thing. If he's running at stock speeds, and bios defaults in bios, not overclocking and just trying to use it: Then just go and let it run. Intel warranty covers the chip for 3 years. As long as they're not overclocking anything, it doesn't really matter how hot it runs. Even if they actually ran the chip at 100c constantly in say, a video rendering environment almost 90% of it's life 24-7-365, even if it ran 100c the entire time, it would still be covered under warranty. Most people upgrade and change computers by at least every 3~4 years. It will last at least that long. Intel thermal protection keeps the chip from sustaining damage. So stop worrying and just use the thing and enjoy.

[Monk]

Yep, which is what I said in post 3 lol.

[r.linder]

Impending Rentacle Tape eredeti hozzászólása:

Monk eredeti hozzászólása:

Ahh got to love it when 3 people who actually oc and tweak seriously all post at the same time pretty much the same thing disagreeing with those who don't, I wonder which set of advice is best, that from the actual enthusiasts and over clockers or the others...

The best advice is probably mine: Just use the thing. If he's running at stock speeds, and bios defaults in bios, not overclocking and just trying to use it: Then just go and let it run. Intel warranty covers the chip for 3 years. As long as they're not overclocking anything, it doesn't really matter how hot it runs. Even if they actually ran the chip at 100c constantly in say, a video rendering environment almost 90% of it's life 24-7-365, even if it ran 100c the entire time, it would still be covered under warranty. Most people upgrade and change computers by at least every 3~4 years. It will last at least that long. Intel thermal protection keeps the chip from sustaining damage. So stop worrying and just use the thing and enjoy.

Not everyone is satisfied with letting their CPU run that hot. He clearly isn't.

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Escorve eredeti hozzászólása:

Not everyone is satisfied with letting their CPU run that hot. He clearly isn't.

Why care though? It's covered by warranty. It has thermal protection to protect it from damage. There's literally nothing to concern yourself with. Just use the thing. Some folks are really silly.

[Monk]

They are not happy as there are people like you spewing bad information that it's a problem for it to run at those temperatures.
There is nothing wrong with his temperatures, he doesn't need to do anything, there would be zero benefit of him dropping his temps, hell the Op could even do a mild overclock and be fine.

The reason enthusiasts like myself, tacoshy and tentacle try to keep things very low is that we push our hardware to its limit, where it would simply shut down if we didn't which is why some of our cooling setups cost more than a fairly high end gaming rig would alone, realistically, there's little benefit to this, which is why it's an enthusiast thing and the majority don't need to worry about it.

If a cpu is below throttling it is perfectly fine to run at that temperature all day long, unlike recent gpu's which drop from their max boost clock every few degrees hotter they get, cpu's (as of now) don't until they hit a safety threshold.

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Monk eredeti hozzászólása:

They are not happy as there are people like you spewing bad information that it's a problem for it to run at those temperatures.
There is nothing wrong with his temperatures, he doesn't need to do anything, there would be zero benefit of him dropping his temps, hell the Op could even do a mild overclock and be fine.

The reason enthusiasts like myself, tacoshy and tentacle try to keep things very low is that we push our hardware to its limit, where it would simply shut down if we didn't which is why some of our cooling setups cost more than a fairly high end gaming rig would alone, realistically, there's little benefit to this, which is why it's an enthusiast thing and the majority don't need to worry about it.

If a cpu is below throttling it is perfectly fine to run at that temperature all day long, unlike recent gpu's which drop from their max boost clock every few degrees hotter they get, cpu's (as of now) don't until they hit a safety threshold.

Yep, for 100% stock operation, 80c - 90c - even 100c is 100% perfectly acceptable. For extreme overclocking it's usually better to keep temps lower. Different things for different scenarios.

[Supafly]

Impending Rentacle Tape eredeti hozzászólása:

The best advice is probably mine: Just use the thing.

Nope. The best advice is the CORRECT and ACCURATE advice. That way OP and others can make an informed decision using facts not biased rubbish.

Several of us have told OP temps were fine. If they wanted lower temps then

Better case airflow
Better CPU cooler
Lowering Vcore can help. Motherboards default to a higher Vcore to insure even the worsrt chips still run. I myself use -0.135 when running my 7700k at stock speeds. This will lower temps without needing to purchase anything.
Delidding is and option. Will void warranty and I advised against this option as it's mainly used by overclockers hitting temperature barriers.

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Suicidal Monkey eredeti hozzászólása:

Several of us have told OP temps were fine. If they wanted lower temps then

They don't need better temps though. Undervolting can cause issues: stability, crashes, possibility of things not working right, etc. There's literally no point in bothering if they're not overclocking.

[Supafly]

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Suicidal Monkey eredeti hozzászólása:

Several of us have told OP temps were fine. If they wanted lower temps then

They don't need better temps though. Undervolting can cause issues: stability, crashes, possibility of things not working right, etc. There's literally no point in bothering if they're not overclocking.

Some, like me, prefer cooler temps. Cool temps = less noise from cooling devices.

Undervolting is fine provided a user does stability testing. And this has been mentioned. As I said my 7700k is undervolted by -0.135. I got temps >10 degrees lower doing this and it's stable. That has the added bonus of less noise. So for games and things that don't need nor benefit much from an OC I get an almost silent operation.

While I can get 5ghz stable I don't really use it much at the moment. But I know that in years to come I won't need to upgrade my system as I can load my Bios settings to OC it and get an extra boost for added performance. Only thing I may upgrade in the first 3-4 of my system will be the GPU.


So, once again, OP has been told temps are fine. However if they do want them lower. For whatever reason, we users are giving OP options. Not negatively telling OP not to and that they shouldn't, it's wrong, etc.