Air vs liquid cooling?

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

I need to know what I should go for in my pc.

I am NOT going to overclock, it will be run at stock speed.

It will have an intel core i9 9900k running 32gb ram and an nvidia 2080 ti

here are my options for cooling.

https://i.imgur.com/RIgLaAt.png

somebody that knows about this sort of thing help me out please

Also while on the subject I understand case is also important in how well the computer stays cool, so I would like your input on my options there too. Currently its using a Coolermaster Mastercase h500, but other options are available.

[Omega]

That is a rather horrible selecting of coolers you have to choose from. All of them except for the h100i will struggle keeping the 9900k cool under any meaningful workload.

Liquid cooling is more expensive, I would only buy one when doing it for the looks. You can buy air coolers with the same cooling performance as a liquid cooler costing well over 2x the price.

My experience with Corsair AIOs is that the stock fans are crap and loud. And they will struggle too cool down on hot days making the PC increadibly loud for long durations after a gaming session even when the fans are set to quiet mode and the pump is set to performance.


I wouldn't recommend any of these coolers.


When only gaming 32gb of RAM is useless. 16gb is all you need.

[Monk]

All your choices kind of suck.

You are spending all this money, don't cheap out on a cooler, go with a decent 360mm aio or a big noctua tower cooler, all of the ones you listed will underperform.

Alsi, unless you are using it as an always on htpc as well (like I am with my 9900k rig), there is zero reason not to overclock it and the gpu.

[Monk]

Got to disagree and correct you on a couple of points omega, a tower cooler will match aios until you get to a good 360mm one, though the aio is far more expensive, and in my experience of running long term 120 (6 years on 3570k), 240 (4 years on 4790k) and now 360mm (3 weeks on 9900k) corsair aio's, they are near silent and get the job done well.

the fans are only around 1000rpm max so it's pretty hard for them to be loud and the pumps, I've never really had an issue with, though the new h150i does have a bit of a noticeable hum if at slow or extreme, but the balanced preset is all but inaudible.

[anrkyuk]

I've had numerous big towers over the years, the most notable of which was the Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme, weighing in at 775g (without fan) and while I always wanted to watercool I was hesitant even with an AIO.

For my current build, I bit the bullet and used a Corsair H110i GTX with 4 Noctuas in push/pull and I can safely say after two an a half years use, I would probably never go back to an air cooler and only wish corsair made 240mm/280mm AIO's for GPU's (yes I know they made an adaptor for the 980 Ti, but they seemed to have stopped doing them for current cards).

[Double Deez Nuts]

no overclock, no watercooling needed

[r.linder]

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no overclock, no watercooling needed

Not for a 9900K. Even though the IHS is soldered, under higher workloads on stock settings it will get really hot.

[Monk]

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no overclock, no watercooling needed

Not for a 9900K. Even though the IHS is soldered, under higher workloads on stock settings it will get really hot.

Yeah, tiny chip many fast cores is a recipe for lots of heat, though with an h150i (using mx4 paste not stock) my 9900k seems to be really cool actually, like 50c under stock load and 70 during benchmarking at 5.2GHz.

Also, an aio really isn't the same as watercooling, which more refers to custom loops, which are in a league of their own.

Another note, you don't need or really gain any benefit from push pull on an aio radiator, they simply aren't thick enough to see any real benefit.

[ʙᴜɴ.ᴇ]

I am getting my pc from here https://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk

They only offer the ones I listed in the pc I chose (Cerberus - Extreme Custom PC), if they are no good can someone please recommend one for me? I don't know much about computers.

I have a £3000 budget and I need the pc for gaming, video editing/streaming and music production so it needs the 9900k processor and the 32gb ram, but I want to have a 2080 ti too for gaming.

any help is appreciated thanks!

[Ad Hominem]

I'd probably go with a decent air tower if you don't want to OC at all. In my opinion youd probably be fine with the hyper 212X. It's not the 100% best top dawg in terms of cooling but it should keep you below thermal throttle temperatures even under demanding workloads.

[Autumn_]

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I'd probably go with a decent air tower if you don't want to OC at all. In my opinion youd probably be fine with the hyper 212X. It's not the 100% best top dawg in terms of cooling but it should keep you below thermal throttle temperatures even under demanding workloads.

Have you even seen the thermals of the i9 9900k? You need at least a super high end air cooler or a 240+mm aio.
The hyper 212 x/evo wont cut it.
And some of the motherboards like to like to force a high boost on the 9900k iirc. So its going to reach 90-100c in no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time on that cooler.

[Ad Hominem]

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Have you even seen the thermals of the i9 9900k? You need at least a super high end air cooler or a 240+mm aio.
The hyper 212 x/evo wont cut it.
And some of the motherboards like to like to force a high boost on the 9900k iirc. So its going to reach 90-100c in no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time on that cooler.

It can't be that bad. It probably wont turbo up to 5.1 for any considerable duration of time, but I'm pretty sure the 212 could handle it for gaming and regular use, especially if you have good case airflow.

But then again, if you plan on spending 750 bucks on the CPU alone, why cheap out on a cooler? Get that 240 AIO and clock that puppy up.

[Double Deez Nuts]

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Have you even seen the thermals of the i9 9900k? You need at least a super high end air cooler or a 240+mm aio.
The hyper 212 x/evo wont cut it.
And some of the motherboards like to like to force a high boost on the 9900k iirc. So its going to reach 90-100c in no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time on that cooler.

if you plan on spending 750 bucks on the CPU alone, why cheap out on a cooler?.

This is the part i dont get. If hes on a budget, he has no buisness buying a CPU in that price range, and any other cheaper thing would bottleneck it considerably

[Ad Hominem]

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if you plan on spending 750 bucks on the CPU alone, why cheap out on a cooler?.

This is the part i dont get. If hes on a budget, he has no buisness buying a CPU in that price range, and any other cheaper thing would bottleneck it considerably

Who knows, maybe it was a gift. Maybe they're gonna get dual 2080ti's for christmas too. It's probably worth the money to get a slightly better cooler, but I stand by the idea that it can techinally run with a hyper 212 and not thermal throttle. It certainly won't boost to 5.1 for longer than a quick monent, but it won't drop below stock because of temps. Mayyybe you can get it to throttle if you run like prime95 or some other torture test, but I'm not even sure of that if you have a nice airy case.

YouTube™ videó: Core i7 8700k Cooling with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - 5GHz Overclock 

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The Intel Core i7 8700k is a beast. But it also produces a lot of heat, especially when overclocked! Can you cool this beast of a CPU with an affordable air cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212...

This fella tested this with the 8700k under stock speed and various overclocks. Even gaming OC'd to 4.8 it got up to 75 with the hyper 212 evo. Running realbench and some other cpu crunching software got it up into the 90s though. I know it's not the same cpu, but it's gotta be comparable, at least to the 4.8 oc numbers.

Seems like as long as you aren't doing rendering or stuff like that you'd be ok with the 212. Not saying it's the best option, just that it would work. Heck, I had my 8700k under a 212 evo for some time with all cores boosted to 4.7 and never got above 70c gaming and other normal use stuff.

The Mastercase h500 isn't a bad case either, especially if you go with the mesh up front rather than the plastic so the front fans can breathe easy.

[r.linder]

The difference in air and liquid cooling really isn't large until you start getting into the larger and more expensive AIOs and custom kits. Noctua's largest tower coolers are easily comparable to most 240mm AIOs, beating many of them and meeting many in cooling performance.

[RyouDeeLuLu]

basic cpu water cooler is just so much better than air coolers honestly, i've been a big supporter of air coolers but if you have the greens just get it water cooled. its quiet and runs much more stable compared to air coolers. and def lot less dust cause your not running 20 fans inside the machine to keep it cool