AMD or Intel CPU?

[Uncle Ruckus]

Not sure which one to pick for my potential future build.

Kind person suggested Ryzen, but a lot of games optimized/build around Intel CPU and Intel has better single core performance as far as I know.
I will get Nvidia GPU.

Is price the only difference?

[vadim]

Depende on your budget. As usual, AMD products have only one, but most important advantage - they are cheaper. So, unless you need to run highly parallel compute applications (really nearly no one needs them today), Ryzen looks as good choice.
It's slightly slower, but not much. In general, its performance is fairly decent. Of course, no one knows what we will need from gaming CPUs in the future.

[anrkyuk]

Intel has the lead on single core clock speed and AMD have the lead on cores, threads and multicore performance.

If you just want to game and all you care about is gaming performance then Intel is your best bet, if you are on a budget then AMD will give the best bang for buck.

If you want to Stream while gaming then AMD is your best bet.

[Omega]

Currently due to a Intel CPU shortage the price of Intel CPUs has increased significantly. The price of some chips has doubled.

Currently I can't recommend Intel due to their chips being overpriced.

You will be dropping $100 on the normally $50 Pentium G5400 for example. And at $100 you can already buy a Ryzen 2200g which nukes that dual core Pentium in mutli core performance.

The i5 8400 used to cost $180, now it's $240. The Ryzen 2600 has been dropping and now costs $130. The 2600 is similar in single core performance and nukes the i5 in multi core performance due to it having SMT.

The i7 8700k used to cost $320-$350, now it's $450 or higher. The Ryzen 2700x costs $320.

Just to sum up some of the more popular chips.


Getting 10fps more in a few games with a 1080 ti in 720p with Intel due to the better single core performance is not worth paying well over 2x as much for. In reality in a balanced system the two score about the same.

[Autumn_]

anrkyuk님이 먼저 게시:

Intel has the lead on single core clock speed and AMD have the lead on cores, threads and multicore performance.

If you just want to game and all you care about is gaming performance then Intel is your best bet, if you are on a budget then AMD will give the best bang for buck.

If you want to Stream while gaming then AMD is your best bet.

Ryzen is within a few fps of intel cpus most of the time.
Any ryzen can be overclocked to close that gap.
It has hyperthreading whereas only (9th gen) only has 1 hyperthreaded cpu (i9 9900k)
Doesnt have all of the security flaws that intel has.
And its much more futureproof. Because more cores and threads.

Edit : spelling ; ♥♥♥♥ phone keyboards.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Omega님이 먼저 게시:

Currently due to a Intel CPU shortage the price of Intel CPUs has increased significantly. The price of some chips has doubled.

Currently I can't recommend Intel due to their chips being overpriced.

You will be dropping $100 on the normally $50 Pentium G5400 for example. And at $100 you can already buy a Ryzen 2200g which nukes that dual core Pentium in mutli core performance.

The i5 8400 used to cost $180, now it's $240. The Ryzen 2600 has been dropping and now costs $130. The 2600 is similar in single core performance and nukes the i5 in multi core performance due to it having SMT.

The i7 8700k used to cost $320-$350, now it's $450 or higher. The Ryzen 2700x costs $320.

Just to sum up some of the more popular chips.


Getting 10fps more in a few games with Intel due to the better single core performance is not worth paying well over 2x as much for.

Yeah, I checked 8700k price and it's a lot higher than R2700x, with less cores and threads.

Thanks to everyone. I'll go for Ryzen.

[Arya]

Throgg Grudgebearer님이 먼저 게시:

Yeah, I checked 8700k price and it's a lot higher than R2700x, with less cores and threads.

Thanks to everyone. I'll go for Ryzen.

Ryzen's cost advantage carries through supporting parts as well. An 8700K needs a Z370 motherboard to unlock it's full potential, and they're really expensive. I paid $490 USD for mine. Ryzen only needs a B450 chipset, and a good one of those can be had for $90-150.

Ryzen also runs colder than Intel Core. I've struggled with cooling since day one, and I'm in the process of ordering a Liquid Cooling system for it. For about $600. Again, Ryzen's got a big advantage here, it's a soldered IHS and runs relatively cold. Unless you go for a 2700X, a middleweight air cooler from a good brand will work just fine.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Wolfey님이 먼저 게시:

Throgg Grudgebearer님이 먼저 게시:

Yeah, I checked 8700k price and it's a lot higher than R2700x, with less cores and threads.

Thanks to everyone. I'll go for Ryzen.

Ryzen's cost advantage carries through supporting parts as well. An 8700K needs a Z370 motherboard to unlock it's full potential, and they're really expensive. I paid $490 USD for mine. Ryzen only needs a B450 chipset, and a good one of those can be had for $90-150.

Ryzen also runs colder than Intel Core. I've struggled with cooling since day one, and I'm in the process of ordering a Liquid Cooling system for it. For about $600. Again, Ryzen's got a big advantage here, it's a soldered IHS and runs relatively cold. Unless you go for a 2700X, a middleweight air cooler from a good brand will work just fine.

I am indeed going for 2700x and still can't decide which cooler is good.

[Omega]

Throgg Grudgebearer님이 먼저 게시:

Wolfey님이 먼저 게시:

Ryzen's cost advantage carries through supporting parts as well. An 8700K needs a Z370 motherboard to unlock it's full potential, and they're really expensive. I paid $490 USD for mine. Ryzen only needs a B450 chipset, and a good one of those can be had for $90-150.

Ryzen also runs colder than Intel Core. I've struggled with cooling since day one, and I'm in the process of ordering a Liquid Cooling system for it. For about $600. Again, Ryzen's got a big advantage here, it's a soldered IHS and runs relatively cold. Unless you go for a 2700X, a middleweight air cooler from a good brand will work just fine.

I am indeed going for 2700x and still can't decide which cooler is good.

It comes with a really decent stock cooler. Another thing that makes it cheaper then Intel CPUs.

[Uncle Ruckus]

Omega님이 먼저 게시:

Throgg Grudgebearer님이 먼저 게시:

I am indeed going for 2700x and still can't decide which cooler is good.

It comes with a really decent stock cooler. Another thing that makes it cheaper then Intel CPUs.

But isn't stock cooler too loud? That's what some 2700x users said. Of course I can save money and replace it later.

[Arya]

Throgg Grudgebearer님이 먼저 게시:

I am indeed going for 2700x and still can't decide which cooler is good.

Cryorig, BeQuiet and Noctua on the air cooling side, Corsair and EK Waterblock on the water cooling side. Anything middleweight or bigger should work.

My personal picks would be the BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro-4 for silence and practicality, a 240 or 280mm Corsair Hydro as my outright pick, and an EK Phoenix 240 for shear ridiculousness.