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adam4landry 2018 年 11 月 21 日 下午 2:57
Building My first gaming pc
Hi guys i am building a "i5 8600k MSI GAMING PLUS Gaming PC" this is my first build i am very super hype so i also need some tips here the parts i am using. (Also please note that there are some parts i don't have yet.)

1: Corsair Carbide Spec-04 Mid tower Gaming case (grey version) "Have it"

2: MSI Z370 GAMING PLUS (Intel version) "Don't have it yet"

3: Intel i5 8600k Cpu "Don't have it yet"

4: Cooler master Hyper 212 evo cpu fan "Don't have it yet"

5: Corsair Vengeance 16gb ddr4 ram (2x8 sticks) "Don't have it yet"

6: Msi Geforce Gtx Armor 1070 8gb GPU "Don't have it yet"

7: 3.5 4 TB Hard Drive (or 8 TB) "Don't have it yet"

8: 2.5 500gb ssd drive "Don't have it yet"

9: Power supply (still did not decide) "Don't have it yet"

Now i have some "Question" and i need some tips so i hope someone i can help me.

Question #1: The case i got look nice there is one little flaw in it the top of the case does not have a dust cover i am investing to get two 120 mm dust covers for that area also i worry about air flow because i want to ad two 120 mm fans up there can anyone recommend any type of dust cover that would be best ????

Question #2: I notice the case only have one fan in it so i am removing that fan and getting 5 new 120mm fans i place 2 fans in the front, 2 fans on the top, 1 fan in the rear. Now the fan i am getting maybe are corsair air series sp 120 Led Green fans or some cooler master rgb 120 mm fans now i can decide witch to go with, the corsair look super it would give my tower a interesting look as for the cooler master rgb fans they can sync with Msi Mystic light i can give a green glow plus ad some beat when i play music on my pc and make it breathe to make it come to life man the possibility are endless what do guys think i should get ???

Question #3: Now like the fans i am going with corsair rgb ram sticks they are 3200mhz (Model CMR16GX4M2C3200C16) i have no idea if they will work with the Msi Mystic light of the motherboard i chose ????

Question #4: The Gpu i chose Msi Geforce Gtx Armor 1070 8gb i have like no idea if the gpu will fit in my build ???

Question #5: I have three question about the cpu fan 1: Will this cpu fan block some ram slots ??? 2: I want to place two fans in the top area will the cpu fan i chose give enough space two fan there ??? 3: The cpu fan has one fan is it a good idea to ad a second fan to it ????

Question #6: Now the ssd and the hdd drives, i have two programs "Big fish Games" and "Steam Games" the rig i am building is for games ONLY!!! anyway i am using a 3.5 hdd 4TB drive for my steam games (hope it will have enough space) and 2.5 ssd 500GB drive i using it for my big fish games, now the ssd drive i have no idea if i should go with 500GB or 2TB or again should i buy a other 4TB to install window 10 and my big fish games what do you guys think ????

Question #7: Now finally the power supply i have no idea what to buy should i buy a 750w one or higher to run all my parts ???


Now that all the question i have for now i hope someone can help me.

Oh and please note i don't want to Overclock my cpu but can i still play my games in stock setting ????
最後修改者：adam4landry; 2018 年 11 月 21 日 下午 3:00
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tacoshy 2018 年 11 月 23 日 下午 4:56 
You're right that the 1600x 1700x and 1800X does not include a cooler, but with Zen 2 there is no reason to get those anymore when buying new. Zen 2 is Much of an improvement over Zen 1.
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Dïngus 2018 年 11 月 23 日 下午 8:36 
引用自 tacoshy：
You're right that the 1600x 1700x and 1800X does not include a cooler, but with Zen 2 there is no reason to get those anymore when buying new. Zen 2 is Much of an improvement over Zen 1.

Well yeah if 6% is worth the $$$ then I agree with you on this. Plus no need to buy a cooler. Although the Zen series has been having some pretty good sales lately vs Zen+.
#62
Omega 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 5:11 
引用自 Dingus：
引用自 Omega：
Ryzen CPUs all include a stock cooler.

I was gonna rebute the earlier posts about "All DDR4 ram being 2133mhz. But this, I just had to point this out.

No they do not.

The 1600x,1700x and 1800x do not come with coolers

Which are three of the cpu's OP should get as they are the best value at the moment.

If the part number has "MPK" at the end it has a cooler,. if not, it does not. AKA seems only "multipacks" have the cooler, hense the "MPK" designation...
All modern Ryzen CPUs which are worth buying and not the last gen stuff which is no longer manufactured.
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adam4landry 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 5:40 
Hey guys i have a unique question for you is there a diffrence between ryzen 2gen and intel 8gen for gaming ????
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Sapph 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 5:41 
引用自 adam4landry：
Hey guys i have a unique question for you is there a diffrence between ryzen 2gen and intel 8gen for gaming ????

In most situations, no.
There is few very specific situations in which Intel will do better. But most people don't have such setup.
最後修改者：Sapph; 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 5:41
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adam4landry 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 5:51 
引用自 Sapph：
引用自 adam4landry：
Hey guys i have a unique question for you is there a diffrence between ryzen 2gen and intel 8gen for gaming ????

In most situations, no.
There is few very specific situations in which Intel will do better. But most people don't have such setup.

Like you mean super overclocking would that be a exemple ???
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Sapph 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 6:13 
引用自 adam4landry：
Like you mean super overclocking would that be a exemple ???

Few examples:

i5 8600K vs Ryzen 5 2600 with RTX 2080TI:

4K resolution: equal
1440p 144-165hz: i5 wins after overclock
1080p 240hz: i5 wins after overclock

This is because i5 can push much higher maximum framerates once overclocked and RTX 2080TI is so powerful that it's easy to bottleneck. But this is also the kind of system very few people would actually buy.
#67
Nightz 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 7:20 
引用自 adam4landry：
Hi guys i am building a "i5 8600k MSI GAMING PLUS Gaming PC" this is my first build i am very super hype so i also need some tips here the parts i am using. (Also please note that there are some parts i don't have yet.)

1: Corsair Carbide Spec-04 Mid tower Gaming case (grey version) "Have it"

2: MSI Z370 GAMING PLUS (Intel version) "Don't have it yet"

3: Intel i5 8600k Cpu "Don't have it yet"

4: Cooler master Hyper 212 evo cpu fan "Don't have it yet"

5: Corsair Vengeance 16gb ddr4 ram (2x8 sticks) "Don't have it yet"

6: Msi Geforce Gtx Armor 1070 8gb GPU "Don't have it yet"

7: 3.5 4 TB Hard Drive (or 8 TB) "Don't have it yet"

8: 2.5 500gb ssd drive "Don't have it yet"

9: Power supply (still did not decide) "Don't have it yet"

Now i have some "Question" and i need some tips so i hope someone i can help me.

Question #1: The case i got look nice there is one little flaw in it the top of the case does not have a dust cover i am investing to get two 120 mm dust covers for that area also i worry about air flow because i want to ad two 120 mm fans up there can anyone recommend any type of dust cover that would be best ????

Question #2: I notice the case only have one fan in it so i am removing that fan and getting 5 new 120mm fans i place 2 fans in the front, 2 fans on the top, 1 fan in the rear. Now the fan i am getting maybe are corsair air series sp 120 Led Green fans or some cooler master rgb 120 mm fans now i can decide witch to go with, the corsair look super it would give my tower a interesting look as for the cooler master rgb fans they can sync with Msi Mystic light i can give a green glow plus ad some beat when i play music on my pc and make it breathe to make it come to life man the possibility are endless what do guys think i should get ???

Question #3: Now like the fans i am going with corsair rgb ram sticks they are 3200mhz (Model CMR16GX4M2C3200C16) i have no idea if they will work with the Msi Mystic light of the motherboard i chose ????

Question #4: The Gpu i chose Msi Geforce Gtx Armor 1070 8gb i have like no idea if the gpu will fit in my build ???

Question #5: I have three question about the cpu fan 1: Will this cpu fan block some ram slots ??? 2: I want to place two fans in the top area will the cpu fan i chose give enough space two fan there ??? 3: The cpu fan has one fan is it a good idea to ad a second fan to it ????

Question #6: Now the ssd and the hdd drives, i have two programs "Big fish Games" and "Steam Games" the rig i am building is for games ONLY!!! anyway i am using a 3.5 hdd 4TB drive for my steam games (hope it will have enough space) and 2.5 ssd 500GB drive i using it for my big fish games, now the ssd drive i have no idea if i should go with 500GB or 2TB or again should i buy a other 4TB to install window 10 and my big fish games what do you guys think ????

Question #7: Now finally the power supply i have no idea what to buy should i buy a 750w one or higher to run all my parts ???


Now that all the question i have for now i hope someone can help me.

Oh and please note i don't want to Overclock my cpu but can i still play my games in stock setting ????
Go for a nice evga G3 750w psu a good high end psu for quiet cheap, go for an ssd, they are decreasing right now you can pick up a Samsung 1tb 860 for only £140!
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adam4landry 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 8:26 
Hey guys i fond a super good deal on a combo that come with ryzen 5 2600x it come with the cpu, motherboad, ram, and a ssd drive now two question the ssd is a "Kingston SSDNow A400 120GB SATA 3 Solid State Drive" this is not big enough for my games but it might good to install window 10 on it (i think?) and the ram is a "Adata XPG Z1 16GB DDR4 SDRAM Memory Module - 16GB (2 x 8 GB) - DDR4 SDRAM - 2400MHz DDR4-2400/PC4-19200 - 1.20 V - Non-ECC - 288-pin - DIMM" i have no idea if this ram is good enough but the games i have don't need much overclocking so i think it could be good enough (i hope?) what do you guys think ???
#69
Omega 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 8:33 
You don't have to buy a kit.. Most of these kits are scams. You can buy all these components lose.

A 120gb SSD is barely enough for Windows + a few apps. These 120gb A400 drives only cost $20.

32gb of RAM is useless for gaming. 16gb is all you need. Ryzen profits a lot from higher clocked RAM, get a 3000Mhz or 3200Mhz kit.

You don't have to do any overclocking, I think you don't really understand what overclocking is and why people do it.
最後修改者：Omega; 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 8:33
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Dïngus 2018 年 11 月 24 日 下午 5:31 
引用自 Omega：
You don't have to buy a kit.. Most of these kits are scams. You can buy all these components lose.

A 120gb SSD is barely enough for Windows + a few apps. These 120gb A400 drives only cost $20.

32gb of RAM is useless for gaming. 16gb is all you need. Ryzen profits a lot from higher clocked RAM, get a 3000Mhz or 3200Mhz kit.

You don't have to do any overclocking, I think you don't really understand what overclocking is and why people do it.

Totally agree. I have 2 120gb SSD's, one Hyper X, and one Cheap Sandisk in a caddy. Let's just say I have windows and a couple <10gb games on the one, and the other is CAD/AVI videos from renders.

For example, when I had GTA-V installed, that is essentially 1 entire 128gb drive with windows boot on it. with roughly 9gb to spare.

Also agree with the 32gb. 16gb is all a "gamer" needs. Although it would be best to use 2 sticks so it runs in dual channel. 1 x 16gb 1 sided stick will be meh.

最後修改者：Dïngus; 2018 年 11 月 24 日 下午 5:35
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Sapph 2018 年 11 月 25 日 上午 1:06 
引用自 adam4landry：
Hey guys i fond a super good deal on a combo that come with ryzen 5 2600x it come with the cpu, motherboad, ram, and a ssd drive now two question the ssd is a "Kingston SSDNow A400 120GB SATA 3 Solid State Drive" this is not big enough for my games but it might good to install window 10 on it (i think?) and the ram is a "Adata XPG Z1 16GB DDR4 SDRAM Memory Module - 16GB (2 x 8 GB) - DDR4 SDRAM - 2400MHz DDR4-2400/PC4-19200 - 1.20 V - Non-ECC - 288-pin - DIMM" i have no idea if this ram is good enough but the games i have don't need much overclocking so i think it could be good enough (i hope?) what do you guys think ???

THose kits are rarely a good deal.
And the RAM it has, is too slow for Ryzen, you will really want 3000Mhz at the least.
#72
adam4landry 2018 年 11 月 25 日 上午 7:00 
引用自 Sapph：

THose kits are rarely a good deal.
And the RAM it has, is too slow for Ryzen, you will really want 3000Mhz at the least.

I see.... well it was my brotherinlaw that sugested i get a combo type of deal but if you guys say that it not a good idea the thing is he is trying to help a little and i don't want to say anything bad to him about it.:steamsad:

But i do want to buy my parts one at a time now i fond a b450 motherboard that i do like it a msi arsenal gaming motherboard the B450 Tomahawk i hear lot of good thing about this motherboard on amazon and youtube and i might be perfect match for the ryzen 5 2600x (i think??).

For the ram you guys sugest 16gb 3000mhz so what brand would be perfect for the ryzen 5 2600x ????
最後修改者：adam4landry; 2018 年 11 月 25 日 上午 7:01
#73
Sapph 2018 年 11 月 25 日 上午 7:49 
引用自 adam4landry：

I see.... well it was my brotherinlaw that sugested i get a combo type of deal but if you guys say that it not a good idea the thing is he is trying to help a little and i don't want to say anything bad to him about it.:steamsad:

But i do want to buy my parts one at a time now i fond a b450 motherboard that i do like it a msi arsenal gaming motherboard the B450 Tomahawk i hear lot of good thing about this motherboard on amazon and youtube and i might be perfect match for the ryzen 5 2600x (i think??).

For the ram you guys sugest 16gb 3000mhz so what brand would be perfect for the ryzen 5 2600x ????

Yeah, Tomahawk is fine board. If you like it, get it.
Almost any model of RAM will work. G.Skill or Corsair is recommended tho.
#74
adam4landry 2018 年 11 月 25 日 上午 9:52 
引用自 Sapph：

Yeah, Tomahawk is fine board. If you like it, get it.
Almost any model of RAM will work. G.Skill or Corsair is recommended tho.

I am glade the tomahawk is perfect for this build it almost like i am building a weaponize gaming pc XD.

Now let talk about ssd and hdd drives i do want to point out that for my window 10, steam app & big fish game app and other drivers i want to intall them on the ssd drive only. My games i want to install them on a huge hdd drive.

Now the ssd i have no idea how big the drive should be and the hdd to hold all my games in well i think a 8tb should be enough i no you think 8tb is to much belive it or not i have "ALOT OF GAMES" i want to make sure the hdd is big enough to hold the game i have what do you guy think ????
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