Got a prebuilt gaming PC for christmas that was 600$

[Wisman]

I went on pc partpicker and made a pc with a ryzen 5 1600 16gb ram and a rx 570 for the same price. I begged my parents so I could build my own pc for 10 months. I get a prebuilt with a fx 6300 8 gb ram and rx 560.

[Talby]

Ouch, any chance to return it?

[Wisman]

Originalmente postado por Talby:

Ouch, any chance to return it?

Parents wont let me, I don't want to mention it because I will seem like a brat. If I upgrade it with birthday money and chores It would be a waste because that is almost 1000 USD down the drain.
The computer has not done me bad though, That is because the most demanding game I play on it is Fortnite and that game is optimized really well. Someone did a benchmark on a couple games with a GTX 750 ti and a Ryzen 5 1600 and it run games better.
About the GPU, I will try to keep it and upgrade it in 2-3 years.

[_I_]

but 6300 is alot bigger number than 1600, and 560 is close to 570
/parents

explain the difference and ask to return or exchange it

[Wisman]

Originalmente postado por _I_:

but 6300 is alot bigger number than 1600, and 560 is close to 570
/parents

explain the difference and ask to return or exchange it

I might, just might be able to return it because it has only been a month and I returned my Xbox One I got a while back, but that was because I never used it.

[Ad Hominem]

Damn man that's a bummer. I guess if you want more power you might have to try and save up for yourself. That way they would be less likely to tell you how to spend your own money. I wouldn't bother upgrading your prebuilt too much, since its on an older socket and all. You would probably be fine slapping a new GPU in there if you wanted to, and that wouldn't be a waste because you could put it in any subsequent build down the line. Also if your motherboard supports M.2 NVMe, that might be a good upgrade, if not, at least get an SSD in there if you don't have one yet, which could also be put in your next sytem down the line.

Maybe if you could get your parents to listen, explain part by part why what you have picked is better and how it's a better value for the money. Then show them how simple it is to build a PC now-a-days. Everything is keyed and will only fit into one spot. Just don't put the square peg in the round hole. Any idiot can do it, especially armed with a few youtube tutorials. Order a 5 dollar ESD bracelet and be off to the races.

[Wisman]

Good idea, I will save up about $600-$800 and not make any upgrades. Then in about 2 years I would get a comupter with something like a ryzen 5 3600 and a rx 3060/3070 when those come out with 16 gb of ram and a 240 gb ssd with a 2tb hdd and a 600w 80+ bronze PSU.

Originalmente postado por Ad Hominem:

Damn man that's a bummer. I guess if you want more power you might have to try and save up for yourself. That way they would be less likely to tell you how to spend your own money. I wouldn't bother upgrading your prebuilt too much, since its on an older socket and all. You would probably be fine slapping a new GPU in there if you wanted to, and that wouldn't be a waste because you could put it in any subsequent build down the line. Also if your motherboard supports M.2 NVMe, that might be a good upgrade, if not, at least get an SSD in there if you don't have one yet, which could also be put in your next sytem down the line.

[calluM]

Originalmente postado por wisman3:

I went on pc partpicker and made a pc with a ryzen 5 1600 16gb ram and a rx 570 for the same price. I begged my parents so I could build my own pc for 10 months. I get a prebuilt with a fx 6300 8 gb ram and rx 560.

Same thing happened to me 3 years ago. I wanted a decent gaming pc, my parents said they would get me one for Christmas. I told them that I could build one and save them money but they weren't having none of it and ended up buying an fx-4300 GTX 960 with 8GB of RAM prebuilt. 3 years ago it was great for the games I played (CSGO, gmod) etc. The only problem is they paid 650$ for it. The same system I could have built for half the cost.

Last summer I stupidly used my PC for like 6 hours straight during a heatwave and the FX-4300 overheated, it still works but performance has dropped significantly. I also suspect the motherboard was also f@#!ed up.

So I got a job and when the 9700k and RTX 2080 came out, I went and bought those with money I had saved.

Originalmente postado por wisman3:

Good idea, I will save up about $600-$800 and not make any upgrades. Then in about 2 years I would get a comupter with something like a ryzen 5 3600 and a rx 3060/3070 when those come out with 16 gb of ram and a 240 gb ssd with a 2tb hdd and a 600w 80+ bronze PSU.

In 2 years time there's probably going to be a new line of GPUs from Nvidia and Ryzen 4XXX if they're going to be a thing xd

[The Rock God]

Takes me back to when my parents bought my first computer. It had 16K of RAM. I begged them to take it back and get one with 64K, which they did. (I was much older when it occurred to me that may have been a bit rude.)

[Ad Hominem]

Originalmente postado por The Rock God:

Takes me back to when my parents bought my first computer. It had 16K of RAM. I begged them to take it back and get one with 64K, which they did. (I was much older when it occurred to me that may have been a bit rude.)

I guess it depends on how you go about it. Kids aren't really known for their tact either.

I remember back in the day, I was so excited to get Starcraft. Family computer barely met the minimum specs. When I finally got it, I couldn't install it because the family computer didn't have 64MB of free hard drive space. Being the enterprising little ♥♥♥♥ that I was and only knowing enough about computers to be dangerous, I knew you could compress files to save space. So I proceded to put the entire contents of the C drive in a zip folder, which freed up enough space to install Starcraft. I got a couple hours of glorious gameplay in before it was time to shut down for the night.

The next morning the PC wouldn't boot. I only put it together later years later that Windows (prob Windows 95) couldn't access the system files it needed to boot because they were compressed in a zip folder. Not knowing enough about computers to fix my error, my parents ended up shelling out for a whole new system which had plenty of hard drive space and updated specs. I want to say it was a blistering fast Pentium 2 but I don't really recall.

[_I_]

tell them you are glad for the gift, but its not nearly as good as it can be for the price

something like this would be alot better for not much more
https://www.microcenter.com/product/507573/pavilion-690-0020-gaming-desktop-computer

its a good starter build
r5 2400g, rx 580, 1tb hdd, 8g ram (single 2666 dimm)
first upgrades should be, 16g (2x8) of 3200+ ram, ssd, quality 600+w psu

its hp, so expect crap support and no overclocking

[Krazy]

Hi,
Your parents are idiots at best. If they can’t do research before shelling out $600 on something then I’m very concerned. Explain this to them (in a nice way) and I dunno maybe return. Don’t be afraid of sounding like a brat, if you have enough evidence you won’t look like it.

Pleas take this with a grain of salt thankyouverymuch

[Wisman]

I told them and they threatend to take it back and not get a replacement.

[calluM]

Originalmente postado por wisman3:

I told them and the threatend to take it back and not get a replacement.

Damn, unlucky. A dated PC with decent performance is better than no PC I guess

[Wisman]

Originalmente postado por calluM:

Originalmente postado por wisman3:

I told them and the threatend to take it back and not get a replacement.

Damn, unlucky. A dated PC with decent performance is better than no PC I guess

yeah i had a laptop that couldn't even run minecraft at 20 fps with optifine at low settings. I am grateful to have this as a major improvement.

[calluM]

Originalmente postado por wisman3:

Originalmente postado por calluM:

Damn, unlucky. A dated PC with decent performance is better than no PC I guess

yeah i had a laptop that couldn't even run minecraft at 20 fps with optifine at low settings. I am grateful to have this as a major improvement.

I wouldnt upgrade anything on that pc though, rather just save for a complete new build