Cyber2B 2019 年 1 月 22 日 下午 8:42
New PC Gamers: Future proofing doesn't exist!
FOR CLARIFICATION!!!: What I mean is that people think that buying the best today means that they can max out every single game for years

Why do people think that putting a RTX 2080 Ti and a i9 9900k will last eyons? When it will probably last only 2-3ish years till you can't max out games anymore and bound to drop settings/Res.

Remember the Titan Z released in 2014 and people said it would last for a decade considering it costed 3k EACH. Lmao I even told my friends mark my words that 2 years later it will get outclassed by something cheaper, it clearly did.

Lol, now you can get a 1070 for even less that would♥♥♥♥♥♥a Titan Z.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-C0DqJtycU


I honestly don't get why people ask "If I get a RTX 2070 or RTX 2080ti, will it futureproof my PC?"

But seriously, anyone new to PC gaming should be REALISTIC and buy what they can afford now instead of worrying about the future. Buying the best of the best today will NOT mean it will stay that way.

There will always be something better next year. Remember, The best today will be the garbage of tommorow.

Probably by the year 2060 or 2080 when i'm old ASF, thats probably when hardware will reach a performance hiatus and you wouldn't have to worry of obsolecense anymore.
最后由 Cyber2B 编辑于; 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 4:10
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InfinityJosh 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 3:40 
GPU is the less futureproof part in a gaming PC, but if you buy a high end one you should be fine for at least 5 years (dropping something down the road).

Most futureproof parts:
1)CASE/PSU/SSD/MB
2)RAM
3)CPU
4)GPU
Cyber2B 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 3:43 
引用自 Infinity Josh
GPU is the less futureproof part in a gaming PC, but if you buy a high end one you should be fine for at least 5 years (dropping something down the road).

Most futureproof parts:
1)CASE/PSU/SSD/MB
2)RAM
3)CPU
4)GPU

5 years? Say that about the Titan Z
iceman1980 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 4:23 
Too many factors involved... Software Innovation, graphics improvements you can not really say that either the CPU or GPU is future proofed. RAM not really either the newest prototypes of DDR5 RAM has already been laid out. @ DDR5-6400 DIMMs (6400Mhz) expected 2020. Then looking into the future we might start to see CPU architecture implementing Nanotube and graphene based transistors.

Welcome to the future.
最后由 iceman1980 编辑于; 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 4:30
_I_ 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 4:43 
引用自 Sphere
Too many factors involved... Software Innovation, graphics improvements you can not really say that either the CPU or GPU is future proofed. RAM not really either the newest prototypes of DDR5 RAM has already been laid out. @ 5200Mhz

for ram, its takes freq/timings
5200 ram will have cl timings over 20

4600-4700 is cl 18-19
4700 / 19 = 247
4600 / 18 = 255
4133 / 17 = 243
3666 / 15 = 244
2400 / 10 = 240

would all be within 2% performance and offer no diff in most programs
Ad Hominem 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 4:46 
引用自 Sphere
Too many factors involved... Software Innovation, graphics improvements you can not really say that either the CPU or GPU is future proofed. RAM not really either the newest prototypes of DDR5 RAM has already been laid out. @ DDR5-6400 DIMMs (6400Mhz) expected 2020. Then looking into the future we might start to see CPU architecture implementing Nanotube and graphene based transistors.

Welcome to the future.

I know they'll need to do something soon to get setup for the end of silicon. Moore's law is leveling out and the laws of physics put a hard cap on how small a transistor can be. What an exciting time.
iceman1980 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 6:10 
Yeah Intel is already winding up their EUVL Lithography systems. Generating high energy UV radiation first then bouncing it around is not easy for a photoresist. Then we've also got a problem known as the dark-silicon problem. This basically explains that you can't have an entire chip active because increasing energy demands generates significant amounts of heat.
最后由 iceman1980 编辑于; 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 6:16
The Rock God 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 8:03 
引用自 Andrius227
And as far as i know, 4th gen are only quad cores which are ok, but i dont think they could run some of the most demanding games on max settings 1440p 144hz.

The difference between 4 and 6 cores is quite significant.

4930K and 4960X would like to have a word with your 5930K. Their friends 3930K, 3960X, and 3970X are standing behind them giggling "dis gon be gud". Sitting on a bench, slightly winded from the walk, are 970, 980, 980X, and 990X. 5960X is shrugging at him, trying to stay out of it, because he doesn't want to be known as the guy who punched a kid (even if he was just protecting his little bro).

In other words, before the 5930K there were 9 other 6-core Core CPUs. 2x 49xx, 3x 29xx, and 4x first generation. 59xx was when 8 cores became available. A 4960X is equal to a 5930K, with the 4930K being only a few % less powerful.
Cyber2B 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 8:37 
引用自 Rogue
"Future proof" is not a literal term, it's kind of like "waterproof" which usually just means "water resistant".

Buy the best you can afford so that you can prolong having to upgrade.

I think it's a sound concept, but like most things it involves a high degree of subjectivity.

It depends on the types of games you are interested in playing, as well as the resolution and settings you want to play them at.

For example, the i7 2600K came out in 2011; it sold for around $300. Some people are still using this CPU today. That is what "future proofing" means in a practical sense.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3412-intel-i7-2600k-revisit-2018-benchmarks-vs-9900k-ryzen-more

Not bad considering its age.

I know, I gave someone a video of its performance and it stacks up really well.

However people are misunderstanding me. I was emphasizing that people shouldn't buy the latest and greatest today and expect to max out settings for a long time. They should buy what they can afford now instead of worrying about the future.



Ad Hominem 2019 年 1 月 25 日 下午 9:37 
引用自 Fiora Laurent
I was emphasizing that people shouldn't buy the latest and greatest today and expect to max out settings for a long time. They should buy what they can afford now instead of worrying about the future.

There are so many factors at play. For example, if you plan on staying at 1080p 60hz, you will probably be fine for quite some time. The more you want to go up from there, the less amount of time your hardware will be relevant. In a very general sense though, I'd agree with your idea.
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