Doomguy (Zabanován) 17. zář. 2018 v 7.50
Xeon x5650 and GTX 1050ti
I already have GTX 1050ti and amd x4 860k
Since I upgraded from r7 360 I have been struggling with serious bottleneck and I want a cheap and effecient upgrade
Would this make a considerable difference
I saw Xeon selling for 30$ and I can get a mobo for about 40-50$
What do you think about this build?
I watched benchmarks and even though it's old,it crushes my ♥♥♥♥♥♥ cpu
I'm sick of same fps on every setting
I'd rather lower the settings and get more fps
Games I'd like to play on 60+ (can be low -medium which I can't now):PUBG,Rise of the tomb raider ,Ac origins, Battlefield 1 etc
Naposledy upravil Doomguy; 17. zář. 2018 v 7.52
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http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Athlon-II-X4-860K-vs-Intel-Xeon-X5650/3265vsm355

You were considering this, your old processor vs the other one in your first post. The X5650 is only roughly +20% faster in single-thread, which is all DirectX9 and DirectX10 games and some (not all) DirectX11 games. It's not much of an upgrade, look towards what other folks are suggesting in this thread.
Naposledy upravil 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊; 17. zář. 2018 v 12.51
From what all I'm able to gather, Xeon X5650 is meant for the Dual Socket Motherboards, not the consumer grade single socket X58 motherboards; even ASRock X58 Extreme doesn't support the X5650, yet it supports many of the other Xeons.

In the end, Xeon X5650 isn't really all that much better compared to AMD FX-8350 except having slightly better multi-core scores, that's about it really.

8350 (near/like-performance) + GTX 1050 Ti is not going to be all that good for those Games in question anyways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugJP-Z1Xd7Y

Even at 3.8 ghz single core is no screaming hell ^.



Bad_Motha původně napsal:
From what all I'm able to gather, Xeon X5650 is meant for the Dual Socket Motherboards, not the consumer grade single socket X58 motherboards; even ASRock X58 Extreme doesn't support the X5650, yet it supports many of the other Xeons.

In the end, Xeon X5650 isn't really all that much better compared to AMD FX-8350 except having slightly better multi-core scores, that's about it really.

8350 (near/like-performance) + GTX 1050 Ti is not going to be all that good for those Games in question anyways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqGm6o6tSEA


The ^ rest of it just for kicks.
Naposledy upravil upcoast; 17. zář. 2018 v 15.32
Bad_Motha původně napsal:
From what all I'm able to gather, Xeon X5650 is meant for the Dual Socket Motherboards, not the consumer grade single socket X58 motherboards; even ASRock X58 Extreme doesn't support the X5650, yet it supports many of the other Xeons.

In the end, Xeon X5650 isn't really all that much better compared to AMD FX-8350 except having slightly better multi-core scores, that's about it really.

8350 (near/like-performance) + GTX 1050 Ti is not going to be all that good for those Games in question anyways.

Yep, dual-socket LGA-1366 CPU. Now.. there is a "Thing", where some desktop x58 motherboards will work and run with dual-socket xeons installed. But.. this is a whole "hit or miss". I have a "EVGA CLASSIFIED X58 3-WAY-SLI" motherboard, and it will not use dual socket xeons at all (Won't even complete POST with one installed, *BEEP*). But I had (and gifted to a friend) a gigabyte X58 motherboard that did work with dual-socket xeons, starts and runs normally and everything's fine, but it couldn't overclock them. And someone else I know on steam has a ASUS x58 desktop board that both accepts dual-socket xeons and supports overclocking them. But there's no way to know if a board does or does not unless you've spoken with someone that can personally assure you that it doesn't work.

TL;DR: Don't do it (putting dual socket cpu's in single socket boards), it probably won't work.

Now on the other side there are three different 6-core, 12-MB Cache, single-socket designed xeons you can get for x58 that are fairly cheap. And because they're designed for single-socket workstations they will work in 99.99% of x58 motherboards (some may need a bios update). The model numbers are: W3670, W3680, and W3690. All of them are basically the same chip, just have a lower multiplier, and as a result lower default clock speed. All of them should support overclocking in almost all x58 desktop boards and you can get a W3680 chip for $48 today used on ebay.

W3680 is +55% overall and +32% in single core vs your chip: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-W3680-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-860K/m12335vs3265

And W3680 is +26% overall and +19% in single-core over a FX-8350: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-W3680-vs-AMD-FX-8350/m12335vs1489
Naposledy upravil 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊; 17. zář. 2018 v 15.54
Well all I was going by, to help ensure accuracy and none of this "hit or miss"
was bring up the official pages of a few common X58 Boards, then reviewing their CPU Support lists.

Ones like ASUS Rampage III Extreme from what I could see did not list any of the X58 supported Xeons, yet ones like ASRock X58 Extreme did, but not the Xeon in question the OP is referring to. Now would it work on such Motherboards and simply just not have the ability to show reflection on that model# in the BIOS and/or OS, yet still function properly, possible. But I'm not willing to suggest you go grab some Motherboard that doesn't say clearly it supports such CPU model.

This seems to state otherwise...
http://www.pc-specs.com/cpu/Intel/Xeon/Xeon_Processor_X5650_/2111/Compatible_Motherboards
Naposledy upravil Bad 💀 Motha; 19. zář. 2018 v 8.02
Bad_Motha původně napsal:
Well all I was going by, to help ensure accuracy and none of this "hit or miss"
was bring up the official pages of a few common X58 Boards, then reviewing their CPU Support lists.

Ones like ASUS Rampage III Extreme from what I could see did not list any of the X58 supported Xeons, yet ones like ASRock X58 Extreme did, but not the Xeon in question the OP is referring to. Now would it work on such Motherboards and simply just not have the ability to show reflection on that model# in the BIOS and/or OS, yet still function properly, possible. But I'm not willing to suggest you go grab some Motherboard that doesn't say clearly it supports such CPU model.

This seems to state otherwise...
http://www.pc-specs.com/cpu/Intel/Xeon/Xeon_Processor_X5650_/2111/Compatible_Motherboards
No one is going to officially list any 1366 xeons in their supported processor list. They can't, Intel wouldn't allow it. Intel only allowed xeons to "Officially" go in either server or "Workstation" motherboards for that line of chips.

But pretty much any single-socket 1366 xeon is going to work in any single-socket motherboard, mostly, usually. 99.99% of the time. The only things that are actually "hit or miss" is using dual-socket-designed xeons in single-socket boards. But single-socket-designed chips work in almost all single-socket boards. And they're decent chips and fairly cheap today.
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