1080 GTX too noisy... need to undervolt ?

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Hello everyone,

I'm experiencing some weird things.

I can launch a game recently released that isn't demanding a lot of resources and suffer from nothing in term of noise and heat. But launching an old game, now deleted from Steam due to its next relaunch on PS4, like The Last Remnant makes my Nvidia GTX 1080 (in a Razer Laptop 2017) go crazy and fully boost to 5GHZ (following what MSI Afterburner tells me)

And I'm really tired of it because it happens with some games an it becomes crazily noisy. i've heard about undervolting, gave it a try with a few benchmarks but finish by wasting a lot of time for nearly nuts. Idle, this computer has already 55°C and with Unigine Heaven benchmark it tops at 89°C.

I've read that 5GHZ in game is not a problem for a Nvidia GTX 1080, but the noise is still a problem and I don't know what to do. Even that Two Point Hospital is making my Razer go crazy... Can I switch on/off some options in the nvida control pannel ? I don't know much about that but if it can help me without having to risk a death crash of the machine...

Thanks in advance.

EDIT :

Concerning "The Last Remnant", the solution, as I owe a Nvidia GPU is to go in the Nvidia panel, and set the 3D parameters for the program itself and choose VSync "Activate"(and not anything else, just "Activate"

EDIT 2 :

Concerning "Aarklash Legacy", I ran into a starting error resulting in overheating but it was a bug. Needed to force VSync like said before and go change the Compatibility and choose Windows 7 parameters to keep a clean 60 fps and not a crazy 125 + frozen screen + overheating...it was my day...

Concerning "Ni No Kuni II", Forcing VSync just does the job ;-) It's heating a bit but not as crazy as I have experimented before.

EDIT 3 :

Ok as mentioned on page 2-3, Alien Isolation managed to make my Razer abruptly shut down....:-p

So Like said, I'm going to clean and repaste, wee'll see what we can manage to accomplish...And then, undervolting if anything...

[Nabster]

Turn v sync on

[Sapph]

The thermal paste has most likely dried and would require a swap. But that will usually void the warranty. However, doing so will drop the temperatures by quite a fair amount since the stock paste that usually is used by the laptop makers, is not so great.

Undervolting won't do much on the Pascal cards.

Also, clean the cooling. Might be quite dusty.


Other than those, it's just normal since the cooling on laptops is limited.

[Cathulhu]

Dried thermal paste with a 1080? Unlikely.

[stroke1988]

Geforce experience has wisper mode is this on?

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Thank you for your replies. I bought it in Autumn 2017. It has always been quite noisy but here it's noisy as hell. Hum....I may try cleaning as much as possible the thing but it has a very unefiscient air ciruit (with only two small openings on the upper left and right corners (when looking at the screen.

and how is V Sync going to impact the noise factor ? I used to disactivate it because it made the all stuff noisier...Or was I wrong ?

[Cathulhu]

V-Sync limits the framerate so it is never higher than the refresh rate of your display.
So, if you have a 60Hz display it would limit to 60FPS. The display wouldn't be able to render more than 60 frames per second.

So, if you render 300 frames per second, you waste a lot of power on 240FPS that your display can not show. More power = more heat. More heat = more work for the cooling. More cooling = more noise.

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thanks for the reply, I activated it :-) If anybody has any further thought, it will be welcome to increase my journey to get this lap less noisier :-). Well I admit that the chassis is easily hot but never goes above 70-80°C...


I had also heard that badly/poorly optimized games might also eat a lot of resources. True ?

[upcoast]

Originally posted by Estelle Bright:

I had also heard that badly/poorly optimized games might also eat a lot of resources. True ?

Not really if a game is badly made it's badly made no amount of power you throw at it will straighten it out; hence it's poorly optimized.

Ps, GTX1080 in a laptop and quiet seems a little over ambitious.

[Cathulhu]

Originally posted by Estelle Bright:

I had also heard that badly/poorly optimized games might also eat a lot of resources. True ?

Kinda yes and no. It will run with less FPS than other titles using the same amount of power. But it will not cause the system to use more power.

[Teiryn]

Are you sure it is the 1080? That laptop is quite thin. What's your cpu temp during heavy load? Might wanna undervolt the CPU if anything.

[Sapph]

Originally posted by Cathulhu:

Dried thermal paste with a 1080? Unlikely.

It's very likely. If it gets dried up in something like 940MX within 6 months, it surely would on something like 1080.
Of course higher quality of paste surely is used on that level of hardware, so 1 year would be about right. After 1 year, thermal pastes start losing their viscosity and thermal conductance.
The hotter it runs, the faster it happens. And this summer has been exceptionally hot everywhere.

So it's very possible cause.

[ブリッジス テウタ]

Geforce GTX 1080 as far as I know and can check on many software like Afterburner

Dried thermal paste... how...I'll check the warranty to be sure and yet I think i'll refer to a professional to do this because I did it once with a cpu on a Desktop gaming pc but was not that confident (even if I had no problem thereafter).

I was certainly into undervolting but the various ways seen on the web are based on trial to adjust the curve of volting in Afterburner.

Maybe there is a different chipset for GPU adapted for laptops ? Even for such a beast as a Razer Blade Pro 2017 ? Tbh the first one I received died soon after I received it because of a power shortcut. This one has survived the year so far :-p And as I move often these times and can't make it without my games (geek forever and until the coffin :-) )

[Teiryn]

Originally posted by Estelle Bright:

Geforce GTX 1080 as far as I know and can check on many software like Afterburner

Dried thermal paste... how...I'll check the warranty to be sure and yet I think i'll refer to a professional to do this because I did it once with a cpu on a Desktop gaming pc but was not that confident (even if I had no problem thereafter).

I was certainly into undervolting but the various ways seen on the web are based on trial to adjust the curve of volting in Afterburner.

Maybe there is a different chipset for GPU adapted for laptops ? Even for such a beast as a Razer Blade Pro 2017 ? Tbh the first one I received died soon after I received it because of a power shortcut. This one has survived the year so far :-p And as I move often these times and can't make it without my games (geek forever and until the coffin :-) )

Well, I wondered what your cpu temp was during heavy gaming load. I also have a laptop and its cpu went up to almost 90c with no undervolt, undervolting it reduced it by like 10c and reduced noise if I remember right.

[Washell]

Originally posted by Sapph:

And this summer has been exceptionally hot everywhere.

For humans. The 5° to 10°C above regular summer temps we've had aren't that significant to electronics.

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All right so when I try to run the Last Remnant (a perfect example of this crazy heating up), both CPU and GPU reach 82-87°C and the noise is unbearable. I bought a cooling pad but it only helps to decrease 2-4°C idle and in game so... not much.

Yes this summer was pretty hot, but every summer is a challenge for my ears...thanks to god there are wireless headsets.