Vega64

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Is a vega64 a good gpu choice if im going for a 1440p gameing pc build with a freesync monitor?
And dont want ti pay £700+ for RTX

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Monk の投稿を引用：

Gamers nexus had the vega64 use like 500w with a custom bios pushing WAY more power through it than is normal or recommended.

It isn't nearly that bad in normal use and if a few hundred watts tank your power bill that much that you cannot afford it, perhaps high end gaming shouldn't be a priority?

Don't know how high your bills are, but here in the UK even with our horrendous price hikes over the last few years my bills haven't gone up much outside of price hikes despite having wayyy more power demanding kit, I really don't notice that much of a difference, really, if 5-15 bucks a month is enough to worry you,an $5-800 GPU shouldn't even be looked at lol.

And you're saying that as if people using video cards don't load a custom bios to unlock their card's power limits and run em overclocked on water, like at least 99% of the overclocking community.

And we can run the same thing on GTX 1080 Ti: power-unlimited custom bios and a big overclock on water and only max out @ 350 - 360 watts of power, but resulting in at least +30% more performance than vega64.

They're just power-hungry cards. It's facts. Typical for AMD. I couldn't recommend them to anyone.

I just took a little browse through ebay and the used section.

Used Vega64 - $400 for the cheapest blower style cards, $500 for the cheapest AIB/Aftermarket cooler cards.

GTX 1080 - $360 for used aftermarket cards, with aftermarket cooler. Exact same performance as Vega64, half the power usage.

GTX 1080 Ti - $475 - $500 for used aftermarket cards with aftermarket cooler, +30% performance over Vega64 in all games and applications, roughly -20% less power.

Resolution or refresh rate aside, unless someone is a die-hard AMD fanboi, it just doesn't make logical sense to own Vega64 right now. Originally when Vega64 first released, it was a good deal because they were quite a bit cheaper than the nvidia alternatives. But today, not so much.

There's just no reason to waste power for no reason, unless you're really just made of money and don't care. Or happen to be in a rent-controlled living situation with power wrapped into the monthly rate (they exist) and don't have to worry about it. Not to mention having to buy a bigger power supply just to handle Vega64 too.

[Monk]

Once again with this 99% of overclocked bs, it's a small percentage of overclockers who mod a bios as frankly, it has a solid chance of bricking a card for negligible gains, the only group who will often do so are sub zero overclockers on LN2.

Given that I was in the top 100 in the world on 3dmarks hall of fame and I e spoken with many others on it,none of which use a custom bios, I feel your 99% claim is very wrong, at least within, you know, the top 100 in the damn world, but I guess none of us are over clockers.

As for if you should buy a Vega 64 or a 1080, given that they have near identical performance,I would base it on the best price available at the time along with if you plan to buy a gsync c monitor or go with free sync, really, the power usage is negligible in normal use.

For me, I got it as a incredibly rare opening day discount on a handful of cards world wide, so when the 1080 and vega64 were still up at 6-700 I paid a mere 450, which, made it quite the bargain.

Edit.

I'll actually hook my power meter up to !you htpc tomorriw Abdul see just how much piwr it uses while gaming, but my bet is sub 500, likely 400 ISH which will mean it can happilyy run on a 500-600w PSU.

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Monk の投稿を引用：

Once again with this 99% of overclocked bs, it's a small percentage of overclockers who mod a bios as frankly, it has a solid chance of bricking a card for negligible gains, the only group who will often do so are sub zero overclockers on LN2.

Except for the thousands of users on overclock.net forums that bios-mod and overclock every card they own, nvidia, amd, water cooled, air cooled, GTX 1070, 1080, 1080 Ti, RX 480, RX 580, Vega56, Vega64, we all try to get the most out of our cards. If you've paid for it, why not clock it as far as it'll go and get the most out of your money.

[Malygos]

Who bios flashes when you can shunt mod and skip all the trouble which very few people are gonna bother with any of that anyway so its pointless to argue about. Vega draws more power cost more and will be on par or a liltte better than a 1080 thats all that needs to be known

[Monk]

By thousands, you more likely mean hundreds on a single forum that makes up perhaps a fraction of a percentage of those who overclock.

As jefe said, shunt modding has pretty much the same rssult at a lower risk, very few flash to a custom bios even on an enthusiast forum like that one, so stop trying to suggest it's normal or common, especially when you then talk about efficiency.

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Monk の投稿を引用：

By thousands, you more likely mean hundreds on a single forum that makes up perhaps a fraction of a percentage of those who overclock.

As jefe said, shunt modding has pretty much the same rssult at a lower risk, very few flash to a custom bios even on an enthusiast forum like that one, so stop trying to suggest it's normal or common, especially when you then talk about efficiency.

Shunt modding bypasses the power limits, but then you still rely on software for overclocking. Bios flashing locks in your stable overclocks into the card so you don't have to rely on software anymore, but can also bypass power limits just like shunt modding does. Some folks use both. The only down side is shunt modding is irreversable and violates your factory warranty, where as bios modding can be reversed and does not violate warranties. But that's an entirely different topic.

[Monk]

I think if something goes wrong with your card you'll have alot easier time removing liquid metal from shunts than reverting a bios on a card that won't boot, both if discovered would void a warranty, also, the bios is software and over time what is stable will not always be the case, though the odds are on the low end.

Either way, neither shunt or custom bios have anything to do with the topic and neither is anything a regular consumer should even think about doing, as that extra 20-30MHz has no real world benefit and barely any in benchmarking either unless you go to LN2.

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Now we have the benchmarks for the RTX cards
I found some 4k benchmarks which included the vega64 and 2080RTX

I could not find any 1440p benchmarks with both cards in the list

Obviously the RTX performed a lot better
bellow is the % difference ein FPS from various games at 4k

68.96 %
28.57%
36.84%
32.14%
26.56%
44.82%
26.08%

range 13.55 - 68.96%
average 34.69%

I bought my 2080 for £715
the cheapest new vega64 i could find is 439.98

thats a 62% price difference
note that prioce is the cheapest i could finde a vega 64 for, most sell for more, up to £608 which is only a 17% price difference.

Am i better off getting a vega64 64 if i buy it for less than 34% of the price of the 2080 rtx ( £472 )?

assume i want to get 1440 gameing

[Sapph]

icon_of_sin の投稿を引用：

Am i better off getting a vega64 64 if i buy it for less than 34% of the price of the 2080 rtx ( £472 )?

assume i want to get 1440 gameing

You're better off buying 1080 or even 1080Ti. Vegas are just not a good choice no matter what.

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Sapph の投稿を引用：

icon_of_sin の投稿を引用：

Am i better off getting a vega64 64 if i buy it for less than 34% of the price of the 2080 rtx ( £472 )?

assume i want to get 1440 gameing

You're better off buying 1080 or even 1080Ti. Vegas are just not a good choice no matter what.

20 series have NVlink connector. You told me it wont.

[DarkStarClassic]

Sapph の投稿を引用：

While somehow similar to 1080 in performance, it runs hot and uses A LOT of power.

And the way the FreeSync works (the current Version 1), doesn't make it be worth it. As it only works on framerates lower than your monitor's refresh rate.
And since the gpu is not strong enough for 1440p 144hz, you are limited to 1440p 60hz.
This means that you would have to run the game under 60fps to get any use out of the FreeSync.

Making the whole thing useless.
FreeSync Version 2 works above the monitor's refresh rate, but it's not available on any of the current monitors.


In short: don't bother with the Vega and the FreeSync, just get the GTX1080.

What a load of crap do you have stock in Nvidia?

Why people like you lying is beyond me?

icon_of_sin の投稿を引用：

Is a vega64 a good gpu choice if im going for a 1440p gameing pc build with a freesync monitor?
And dont want ti pay £700+ for RTX

Vega 64 is very good card i'm using one now for more then year also 1440p freesync monitor glad i have a Vega 64(mine is water cooled btw)

[Malygos]

DarkStarClassic の投稿を引用：

Sapph の投稿を引用：

While somehow similar to 1080 in performance, it runs hot and uses A LOT of power.

And the way the FreeSync works (the current Version 1), doesn't make it be worth it. As it only works on framerates lower than your monitor's refresh rate.
And since the gpu is not strong enough for 1440p 144hz, you are limited to 1440p 60hz.
This means that you would have to run the game under 60fps to get any use out of the FreeSync.

Making the whole thing useless.
FreeSync Version 2 works above the monitor's refresh rate, but it's not available on any of the current monitors.


In short: don't bother with the Vega and the FreeSync, just get the GTX1080.

What a load of crap do you have stock in Nvidia?

Why people like you lying is beyond me?

Vega cost more and gets the same or close numbers😂

[Guydodge]

Sapph の投稿を引用：

While somehow similar to 1080 in performance, it runs hot and uses A LOT of power.

And the way the FreeSync works (the current Version 1), doesn't make it be worth it. As it only works on framerates lower than your monitor's refresh rate.
And since the gpu is not strong enough for 1440p 144hz, you are limited to 1440p 60hz.
This means that you would have to run the game under 60fps to get any use out of the FreeSync.

Making the whole thing useless.
FreeSync Version 2 works above the monitor's refresh rate, but it's not available on any of the current monitors.


In short: don't bother with the Vega and the FreeSync, just get the GTX1080.

so true.. gsync and free sync are not necessary once you reach a certain level pc rig with high fps biggest scam there is.

[Revelene]

Guydodge の投稿を引用：

so true.. gsync and free sync are not necessary once you reach a certain level pc rig with high fps biggest scam there is.

Lol so wrong.

[Monk]

Revelene の投稿を引用：

Guydodge の投稿を引用：

so true.. gsync and free sync are not necessary once you reach a certain level pc rig with high fps biggest scam there is.

Lol so wrong.

Got to agree, got to love people talk down about tech they have no experience with, despite pretty much every review and user disagreeing and saying that it's great, but I guess people who haven't used it are the best informed...