Amd fx 6300 upgrade to amd fx 8370?

[EliteDefuser]

Hi Guys, I'm playing lots of games and planning to upgrade my current cpu (amd fx 6300) to amd fx 8370. My game crashes a lot in ark, this is my system: Amd fx 6300, 8gb DDR3, Amd radeon r9 280x. So my question is, should I get less crashes? At this moment I don't have the money to switch to Intel, so will it be worth for the crashes ?

[upcoast]

Messaggio originale di FeilDOW:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.techspot.com/amp/review/1474-ryzen-vs-older-budget-cpus/

The 8370 does not match the 1200, the 1200 is much better for gaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jiXkrRoD4w

Even with the 1200 clocked up to its max of 4ghz it's nothing wonderous with a GTX1060, the R9 290x would surely be choked by FX in general it really is the way it is due to driver api overhead BS or something to that nature..

Just Cause 3 being worst case scenario with an FX8xxx paired with upper end R9 290s and Rx 580s they literally flounder down to 18fps and lag fest but if you put either the GTX1060/70 on the same FX cpu maxed quality settings JC3 will be smooth running.


1200 raised the ipc by about 34% so yes it can handle the R9 290x now but the quad core end of it now is choking on a lot of newer UBI games specifically.

https://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/75763-amd-ryzen-3-1300x-1200-performance-review-13.html

Then you've got that ^ with the Titan X ^ a whopping %34 boost ipc over the FX8370 and still the 1200 flounders at stock clocks periodically and is less than impressive in other ways.


Going to a quad core is a big mistake if you've got an FX6xxx or FX8xxx already, upgrade to Ryzen 1600 - 2700x or nothing imo.

[FeilDOW]

Messaggio originale di upcoast:

Going to a quad core is a big mistake if you've got an FX6xxx or FX8xxx already, upgrade to Ryzen 1600 - 2700x or nothing imo.

In my case I had a z370 k5 laying here doing nothing that I got with a 1080, so 8gb of DDR4 2666 RAM cost $100cdn and I got the 1200 on sale for $109cdn.

I got the 1200 because I wanted to see what it could do and my daughter doesn't play AC:O or GTA V so the perfomance over the 6300@4.7 in the games she plays are very noticable with a 290x. The real noticable part is no more slow downs and FPS drops and min FPS is much higher. Also when 7nm 3600 or 3700 are released and I upgrade my 1600 rig I can just throw that in my daughters rig.

[EliteDefuser]

Messaggio originale di FeilDOW:

Messaggio originale di upcoast:

Going to a quad core is a big mistake if you've got an FX6xxx or FX8xxx already, upgrade to Ryzen 1600 - 2700x or nothing imo.

In my case I had a z370 k5 laying here doing nothing that I got with a 1080, so 8gb of DDR4 2666 RAM cost $100cdn and I got the 1200 on sale for $109cdn.

I got the 1200 because I wanted to see what it could do and my daughter doesn't play AC:O or GTA V so the perfomance over the 6300@4.7 in the games she plays are very noticable with a 290x. The real noticable part is no more slow downs and FPS drops and min FPS is much higher. Also when 7nm 3600 or 3700 are released and I upgrade my 1600 rig I can just throw that in my daughters rig.

If my pc can't run a game then it will lagg yea? But my screen freezes, u know why?

[Sapph]

Messaggio originale di EliteDefuser:

If my pc can't run a game then it will lagg yea? But my screen freezes, u know why?

You never answered my question about what Corsair's psu you have.
It might be your psu being bad and unable to give the power the system needs.

[EliteDefuser]

Messaggio originale di Sapph:

Messaggio originale di EliteDefuser:

If my pc can't run a game then it will lagg yea? But my screen freezes, u know why?

You never answered my question about what Corsair's psu you have.
It might be your psu being bad and unable to give the power the system needs.

Lol, but my pc only crashes when I play games. So it's not the psu. I think the videocard but I still don't know. Ps my psu is Corsair

Corsair CX Series 750 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Modular Power Supply (CP-9020061-NA)

[Sapph]

Messaggio originale di EliteDefuser:

Lol, but my pc only crashes when I play games. So it's not the psu. I think the videocard but I still don't know. Ps my psu is Corsair

Corsair CX Series 750 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Modular Power Supply (CP-9020061-NA)

It's EXACTLY during the gaming that it would happen.
Because that's when the pc needs the most power from it.

Also, Corsair CX, especially if the older one, with green name, is very bad.
So chances are fairly high that it's the PSU.

[EliteDefuser]

Messaggio originale di Sapph:

Messaggio originale di EliteDefuser:

Lol, but my pc only crashes when I play games. So it's not the psu. I think the videocard but I still don't know. Ps my psu is Corsair

Corsair CX Series 750 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Modular Power Supply (CP-9020061-NA)

It's EXACTLY during the gaming that it would happen.
Because that's when the pc needs the most power from it.

Also, Corsair CX, especially if the older one, with green name, is very bad.
So chances are fairly high that it's the PSU.

But then I get other errors yeah? Because now when I'm playing ark, I get errors like lowfatalerror and failed to create 3d device. And when fortnite crashes I get errors like unreal engine has stopped working..

[upcoast]

Messaggio originale di EliteDefuser:

Messaggio originale di FeilDOW:

In my case I had a z370 k5 laying here doing nothing that I got with a 1080, so 8gb of DDR4 2666 RAM cost $100cdn and I got the 1200 on sale for $109cdn.

I got the 1200 because I wanted to see what it could do and my daughter doesn't play AC:O or GTA V so the perfomance over the 6300@4.7 in the games she plays are very noticable with a 290x. The real noticable part is no more slow downs and FPS drops and min FPS is much higher. Also when 7nm 3600 or 3700 are released and I upgrade my 1600 rig I can just throw that in my daughters rig.

If my pc can't run a game then it will lagg yea? But my screen freezes, u know why?

You have to go through the diagnostics like was mentioned before DDU, memtest, etc, etc.


Another question for you is, when your PC freezes can you see what you were working on but the mouse and everything is frozen and not even cltr/alt/del will get you out so you have to hold the case power button down until the PC turns off then when you start the pc again it's all good until "Bam" the screen and everything freezes again?

[Sapph]

Messaggio originale di EliteDefuser:

But then I get other errors yeah? Because now when I'm playing ark, I get errors like lowfatalerror and failed to create 3d device. And when fortnite crashes I get errors like unreal engine has stopped working..

The "failed to create D3D device" is a gpu driver crash error. And if the gpu stops getting enough power to it from PSU, the driver can get this error.

Further fitting in with PSU as possibility.

[EliteDefuser]

Messaggio originale di upcoast:

Messaggio originale di EliteDefuser:

If my pc can't run a game then it will lagg yea? But my screen freezes, u know why?

You have to go through the diagnostics like was mentioned before DDU, memtest, etc, etc.


Another question for you is, when your PC freezes can you see what you were working on but the mouse and everything is frozen and not even cltr/alt/del will get you out so you have to hold the case power button down until the PC turns off then when you start the pc again it's all good until "Bam" the screen and everything freezes again?

Yes that's exactly what I'm having.

[EliteDefuser]

Messaggio originale di Omega:

Messaggio originale di EliteDefuser:

Yeah but I only want to fix the freezing issue.

Buying another CPU will most likely not fix that issue.

Reinstall Windows and see if that fixes the issue. If it doesn't you can stress test the GPU to see if it is the issue or not. Running Memtest86 to check the RAM doesn't hurt either.

I already reinstalled windows, but a few months ago I cleaned my videocard, but while I was doing that, there fell a droplet on my videocard from the pressure tube. I cleaned that directly but I don't know if that causes the freeze. It fell on 1 of the 1000 "dots" on thd videocard

[upcoast]

Messaggio originale di EliteDefuser:

Messaggio originale di upcoast:

You have to go through the diagnostics like was mentioned before DDU, memtest, etc, etc.


Another question for you is, when your PC freezes can you see what you were working on but the mouse and everything is frozen and not even cltr/alt/del will get you out so you have to hold the case power button down until the PC turns off then when you start the pc again it's all good until "Bam" the screen and everything freezes again?

Yes that's exactly what I'm having.

If it is exactly that ^ there's a good chance that your r9 280x vram is pooched aka borked just like my R9 280x but still run a few diagnosing progs just to be sure like P95 (for the cpu small ftts), Furmark (for the GPU) and memtest 86 (for system ram).

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Any chance of running out of VRAM? RAM?
Mindfactory sold the 9590 for below 60 euro today. But it eat power like crazy but maybe one can undervolt and clock it?
Do you use overclocking?

Start by in whatever fashion getting a fan blowing air onto the VRM (left and top of CPU socket if mounted as typical ATX.)

[upcoast]

Messaggio originale di Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism:

Any chance of running out of VRAM? RAM?
Mindfactory sold the 9590 for below 60 euro today. But it eat power like crazy but maybe one can undervolt and clock it?
Do you use overclocking?

Start by in whatever fashion getting a fan blowing air onto the VRM (left and top of CPU socket if mounted as typical ATX.)

I honestly don't believe vram is his problem,3GB / 384bit.

[_I_]

its the am3 platform thats the problem
low ipc even at high clocks, no pci-e 3.0

and fx9 requires a better board than the op has
4+2 even with heatsink is not enough for a 220w cpu
https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A97_R20/specifications/ = 140w max
no fx9 listed at all, pii 965 is highest wattage cpu listed 140w

if the op pc has problems as is, giving it a higher tdp cpu will not make the problem go away