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-- 30 aout 2018 à 12h24

bending cpu pins

How likely is it that i could bend the pins on a Ryzen 2600x? Im afraid to install it

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Bad 💀 Motha 31 aout 2018 à 5h19

Yea the Wraith do just fine. They are scaled to be a beefier cooler also, based on the CPU model. Shouldn't "need" a better CPU cooler to be honest. I prefer them for looks and better OC'ing, but that's me. As I prefer to use better coolers like heat-pipe tower coolers with 120/140mm fans or Liquid Cooling configs.

With stock cooler on AMD Ryzen you'd be just fine, just don't forget having a Case with a couple intake and exhaust fans on it. Lack of case airflow is usually why most people run into heat related issues.

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-- 31 aout 2018 à 6h01

Ah nice. I'll give the stock cooler a try then, thank you all

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Val 31 aout 2018 à 10h28

xD a écrit :
Ah nice. I'll give the stock cooler a try then, thank you all

yes, amd stock coolers are decent, my old athlon 750k had a 100TDP but it kept it cool and quiet

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Bad 💀 Motha 31 aout 2018 à 10h40

I meant the Ryzen stock coolers are decent.
Pretty much every previous gen stock cooler were terrible.
Especially since previous gens from AMD had such a low max temp.
Ryzen has just as high of a max temp as Intel chips do.

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Malygos 31 aout 2018 à 10h50

If you’re gonna overlcock id go water i tried the 2 i had and had to use aio’s was in the 80’s very easily with the stock cooler i think jayztwocents did a video about one on a 2700x and found the same thing when they launched. Mildly overclocking tho it should be fine

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Bad 💀 Motha 31 aout 2018 à 10h55

Stock Coolers simply are never meant for OC'ing
But liquid, not really a need to go that route.
A simple 120mm tower heat-pipe cooler should do, such as:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jK8H99/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h5universal
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YwGkcf/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk018
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7dTrxr/noctua-nh-u12s-se-am4-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s-se-am4

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Malygos 31 aout 2018 à 11h03

Not one of those coolers will keep up with larger aio’s when doing heavy overclocks i bought my 280mm aio on sale for $113 more than worth the price for cooler temperatures

Dernière modification de Malygos; 31 aout 2018 à 11h03

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Bad 💀 Motha 31 aout 2018 à 11h19

They beat most AIOs actually.
But yea 280mm is beefy. Again not a need.
Ryzen won't get beyond 4.2 / 4.3 or so GHZ anyways, no matter what you have.
This is not Intel, you're not reaching 5+ Ghz with better cooling.
But yes if you go from like 3.6 / 3.8 past 4.0 ranges, it's going to heat up to where the stock cooler can't keep up.

It's why I grabbed a 1700 at first (not far behind an 1800X, but wow that price, when both were new). Then I sold that system and put together an X470 w/ 2700X
Seriously, you won't gain much by OC'ing either CPU, it's not even worth it to attempt something beyond 4.1 or so ranges on them.
What I did do was disable C1E, cool & quiet, turbo; set the mutiplier to adjust my cpu clock to what it would be under turbo. Enable XMP for my RAM, adjust that to 2933 and done.

Dernière modification de Bad 💀 Motha; 31 aout 2018 à 11h22

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Malygos 31 aout 2018 à 11h23

Bad_Motha a écrit :
They beat most AIOs actually.
But yea 280mm is beefy. Again not a need.
Ryzen won't get beyond 4.2 / 4.3 or so GHZ anyways, no matter what you have.

Anyone actually overclocking is front mounting their rad not one of those will beat even a front mounted 240mm a 4.2 the 2 2600x’s i had got as hot as my 7700k where you absolutely need more than just an air cooler

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Bad 💀 Motha 31 aout 2018 à 11h29

Still doesn't justify the pricing when any AIO worth buying is well over $100-150+ ranges.
My Ryzen 1700 @ 4.0-4.1 Ghz (had to test it out right ;-)
with any one of those linked air coolers, never went about 65*C
2700X does about the same, but is much much faster overall at around the same clock ranges.
an AIO is not going to get that down much lower to make it worth anywhere from 2-4x the pricing, or even more.

Yes they get hotter when OC'ed but given the brick wall they have, you don't need no liquid cooling. If you going liquid cooling then you do a sealed loop and tie in GPU(s). How anyone thinks spending $100+ to do a job that a sub-$50 air cooler can easily do, is beyond me. Maybe the reason many can't get their air coolers to do well, is maybe because they don't install enough Case Fans, have poor airflow, don't install good fans, or enough of them.

Intel CPUs on the other hand can crank all day @ 90*C just fine.

Dernière modification de Bad 💀 Motha; 31 aout 2018 à 11h30

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Malygos 31 aout 2018 à 11h39

Bad_Motha a écrit :
Still doesn't justify the pricing when any AIO worth buying is well over $100-150+ ranges.
My Ryzen 1700 @ 4.0Ghz (had to test it out right ;-)
with any one of those linked air coolers, never went about 65*C
an AIO is not going to get that down much lower to make it worth anywhere from 2-4x the pricing, or even more.

Yes they get hotter when OC'ed but given the brick wall they have, you don't need no liquid cooling. If you going liquid cooling then you do a sealed loop and tie in GPU(s). How anyone thinks spending $100+ to do a job that a sub-$50 air cooler can easily do, is beyond me. Maybe the reason many can't get their air coolers to do well, is maybe because they don't install enough Case Fans, have poor airflow, don't install good fans, or enough of them.

Because most people get anywhere from 8-15c drops front mounting.tts been tested over and over ryzen will get just as hot with heavy overclocks the lowest temps i got was 82c on the stock cooler. My case has 4 200mm fans id bet money it has better airflow than what you got and i didnt get anywhere near 60c overlclocked and neither will anyone else so either you live in a wind tunnel or the clocks didnt apply

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Bad 💀 Motha 31 aout 2018 à 11h49

Yea, 82 ON THE STOCK cooler

2x 200mm fans? Those are too slow of RPMs

But overall, yes I would hope u didn't get about 60*C ranges, but given you can do roughtly the same with an air cooler, is why users need to be aware that spending that AIO-LQ $ is NOT required to keep things cool. It's just false to suggest otherwise. Yes you can run cooler, but do you need to, nope. Does it make it worth the money, for most people, nope

Overall I guess whatever works for a user in the end.

But suggesting the OP by buy into an AIO-LQ just to OC, complete non-sense.

That $ spent on even a cheap AIO-LQ would pay for a 500GB SSD + Win10

That can make quite a difference when someones on a tighter budget.

When you got more $, sure grab a $100+ Case and $100+ Cooling...

#27

TehSpoopyKitteh 31 aout 2018 à 12h34

Just so we are all on the same page.

Intel Pentium 4 1.3 and newer use LGA

AMD FM2/AM3/AM4 use FPGA.

FPGA has pins on the CPU that contact pads on the motherboard's CPU socket.

LGA has pads on the CPU that copntact pins that are in the motherboard's CPU socket.

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Bad 💀 Motha 31 aout 2018 à 13h44

Yes SPOOPY but cmon, at least keep the conversation in THIS decade.
To be honest, I miss the Intel and AMD "slotted" CPUs. Only issue was they were very limited on cooling methods.

Dernière modification de Bad 💀 Motha; 31 aout 2018 à 13h45

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