Catskill Nov 1, 2018 @ 1:19am
GTX 470 not updating drivers
I got a pc for cheap off of Facebook marketplace, with a supposed dead motherboard. Turns out the motherboard was fine and it was set to a high overclock on a dirty stock cooler, obviously causing thermal cut outs. But the GTX 470 that was in it is on Microsoft basic rendering driver and says it installs the newest driver on geforce experience, but after restarting it goes back to the basic driver, I have had this issue on an failing GTX 680, but that had bad artifacting. This one seems to be working ok apart from this issue, any help would be great thanks
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TehSpoopyKitteh Nov 1, 2018 @ 1:27am 
Replace the GPU. The GTX470 doesn’t have support from NVIDIA any more.
Last edited by TehSpoopyKitteh; Nov 1, 2018 @ 1:28am
Bad 💀 Motha Nov 1, 2018 @ 1:28am 
Wipe out all the Drivers with DDU via safe mode and then reboot.

Never use Geforce Experience.

Just install Forceware without that non-sense.

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/132845
TehSpoopyKitteh Nov 1, 2018 @ 1:51am 
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Wipe out all the Drivers with DDU via safe mode and then reboot.

Never use Geforce Experience.

Just install Forceware without that non-sense.

https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/132845
They’re currently using the “Windows Default VGA Driver”. So DDU may cause them more issues.
Bad 💀 Motha Nov 1, 2018 @ 1:55am 
Hmm lol , no it wont. This is to ensure everything is gone in the way of the GPU Drivers. Good lord its everyday practice around here; you folks act like your PC gonna die without a driver, FFS did you have a driver when u installed the OS, NO.

And use the Driver I linked above, its the last driver to support Geforce 4xx/5xx series GPUs
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Nov 1, 2018 @ 1:55am
TehSpoopyKitteh Nov 1, 2018 @ 1:57am 
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Hmm lol , no it wont. This is to ensure everything is gone in the way of the GPU Drivers. Good lord its everyday practice around here; you folks act like your PC gonna die without a driver, FFS did you have a driver when u installed the OS, NO.

And use the Driver I linked above, its the last driver to support Geforce 4xx/5xx series GPUs
You don’t want to remove the generic Microsoft VGA Driver because that’s what is used to display a BSOD, your UEFI, and your boot menus and advanced recovery options. DDU removes the driver that’s currently installed for the wipe. They may as well just install the NVIDIA driver if they don’t have it installed.

Sort have been that way since Windows 2000.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/325341/how-to-force-windows-to-use-standard-vga-compatible-driver
Last edited by TehSpoopyKitteh; Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:03am
Bad 💀 Motha Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:04am 
WTF are you on about... seriously you're not a tech, just stop.
If you were you'd know how this works. You can't "wipe" the OS generic drivers.

Spoopy please, go back to school, they have failed you.
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:04am
Catskill Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:04am 
Thanks for the advice guys, I agree with both of you but sloppy kitteh has a point, there is no driver on the card, so DDU might not achieve anything or just put it in the state it’s already in, I will try the forceware first and then might as well try the DDU, I do suspect it’s bad VRAM though.
Bad 💀 Motha Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:07am 
You always run DDU wipe out all the junk, simple as this. Why is there a question here?
You can't wipe the Generic OS Driver parts. That always comes back to display a picture.
We're ensuring old junk gets wiped out, it's not like this is a new PC.
Once wiped via the safe mode option, reboot.
Install the driver I linked by running the installer, if asked to install Geforce Experience, select NO. If asked to select install type, select CUSTOM > untick Geforce Experience.

When it has finished, restart Windows.
TehSpoopyKitteh Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:21am 
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
You always run DDU wipe out all the junk, simple as this. Why is there a question here?
You can't wipe the Generic OS Driver parts. That always comes back to display a picture.
We're ensuring old junk gets wiped out, it's not like this is a new PC.
Once wiped via the safe mode option, reboot.
Install the driver I linked by running the installer, if asked to install Geforce Experience, select NO. If asked to select install type, select CUSTOM > untick Geforce Experience.

When it has finished, restart Windows.
Read the article I linked to, then re-read the OP more thoroughly before snapping at me about this in chat please.

Originally posted by Catskill:
I got a pc for cheap off of Facebook marketplace, with a supposed dead motherboard. Turns out the motherboard was fine and it was set to a high overclock on a dirty stock cooler, obviously causing thermal cut outs. But the GTX 470 that was in it is on Microsoft basic rendering driver and says it installs the newest driver on geforce experience, but after restarting it goes back to the basic driver, I have had this issue on an failing GTX 680, but that had bad artifacting. This one seems to be working ok apart from this issue, any help would be great thanks
"But the GTX 470 that was in it is on Microsoft basic rendering driver "
Last edited by TehSpoopyKitteh; Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:22am
Bad 💀 Motha Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:22am 
Its good now? This whole process takes less than 5 mins
OP should either have GTX 470 now listed and a working NVIDIA Control Panel.
If not then GPU is probably dead if its resorting back to Basic Driver all on its own after rebooting.
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:23am
Catskill Nov 1, 2018 @ 2:35am 
Running through DDU now, it’s not the quickest pc lol

It’s been sat on a black screen for about 5 minutes and not restarted the system yet, not looking good unfortunately

During the forceware installation, about half way through it black screened

Thanks for the help, confirmed dead GPU, not an issue I will put my 1070 in the system to test gaming performance of the cpu, and see how much an overclocked i7 860 will bottleneck it 🤣
Last edited by rotNdude; Nov 1, 2018 @ 7:57am
_I_ Nov 1, 2018 @ 3:12am 
1156 i7
if not overclocked to 4+ghz it will hold it back alot

but most games will be playable
Bad 💀 Motha Nov 1, 2018 @ 3:15am 
Yea sounds like the GTX 470 is dead.
I would expect as much, those are very old now.
Catskill Nov 1, 2018 @ 3:21am 
Yh but was worth a shot to try flip the system for a bit of profit, and I don’t want to take the i7 up to 4ghz without liquid cooling, it’s at 3.6 now and running fine at 44c in general use
Bad 💀 Motha Nov 1, 2018 @ 3:22am 
Someones old used junk; no I wouldn't OC it period.
Plus it will probably do very little anyways.
GTX 470 was weak anyways; can get a GTX 750 Ti for VERY cheap and it will be better.
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