Túrin 16/ago./2018 às 14:25
Not using full potential of GPU
I am barely getting 60 FPS on the normal games I play after getting a new 1920 x 1080p monitor. I usually play Destiny 2 and PUBG. My specs are such:
GTX 980
intel core i5-4430 @ 3GHZ
8 GB RAM
215 GB SSD
1TB HDD

I dont believe my hardware should have any trouble playing these games at max with at LEAST 60 FPS.
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Omega 16/ago./2018 às 14:29 
Blaim the i5 for that. It's a mediocre CPU.

THe GPU isn't all that great either.
Última edição por Omega; 16/ago./2018 às 16:01
InfinityJosh 16/ago./2018 às 14:32 
PUBG is a demanding game, best way to achieve 60 fps at 1080p is to set FXAA and high settings+ few details on low (shadows, trees etc.)
The GPU is like 1060, the CPU is low end for that game, being less powerful than RYZEN 1200 (nowadays minimum for gaming latest titles).
Túrin 16/ago./2018 às 14:37 
So I need to upgrade my CPU. Are there any good i5's that you would recommend?
InfinityJosh 16/ago./2018 às 14:55 
Escrito originalmente por Smeagol(twitch.tv/charletonn):
So I need to upgrade my CPU. Are there any good i5's that you would recommend?

i5 8400 or 8600, 8600k depending by your budget.
Chompman 16/ago./2018 às 15:00 
Escrito originalmente por Smeagol(twitch.tv/charletonn):
So I need to upgrade my CPU. Are there any good i5's that you would recommend?
Upgrading your cpu to modern ones will require a motherboard replacement and more then likely upgraded ram.
Omega 16/ago./2018 às 15:01 
Escrito originalmente por Smeagol(twitch.tv/charletonn):
So I need to upgrade my CPU. Are there any good i5's that you would recommend?
Upgrading the CPU means buyign a new motherboard and DDR4 RAM as well.

I recommend the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 over Intel's current i5 offerings.
Chompman 16/ago./2018 às 15:17 
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
Escrito originalmente por Smeagol(twitch.tv/charletonn):
So I need to upgrade my CPU. Are there any good i5's that you would recommend?
Upgrading the CPU means buyign a new motherboard and DDR4 RAM as well.

I recommend the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 over Intel's current i5 offerings.
Problem is for just pure gaming the i5's generally are better performance to comparable ryzens.

If you want the extra threads the ryzen has for other uses then that would be the better choice however.
Omega 16/ago./2018 às 15:20 
Escrito originalmente por Chompman:
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
Upgrading the CPU means buyign a new motherboard and DDR4 RAM as well.

I recommend the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 over Intel's current i5 offerings.
Problem is for just pure gaming the i5's generally are better performance to comparable ryzens.

If you want the extra threads the ryzen has for other uses then that would be the better choice however.
Incorrect:
https://www.techspot.com/review/1627-core-i5-8400-vs-ryzen-5-2600/

Once Vulkan and DirectX 12 become more wide spread and devs learn to properly implement it you will see the R5 outperform the i5 even at stock.
Última edição por Omega; 16/ago./2018 às 15:22
Chompman 16/ago./2018 às 15:24 
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
Escrito originalmente por Chompman:
Problem is for just pure gaming the i5's generally are better performance to comparable ryzens.

If you want the extra threads the ryzen has for other uses then that would be the better choice however.
Incorrect:
https://www.techspot.com/review/1627-core-i5-8400-vs-ryzen-5-2600/
I suggest you look again,

The stock ryzen performs under the i5 in almost all the games.

You cannot compare a oc cpu vs a non oc one and call it fair game.

Also as you can see here the I5 outperforms both clearly for pubg as that is one of the games op talks about:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1627-core-i5-8400-vs-ryzen-5-2600/page5.html

Even the sites conclusion states the i5 is better for gaming on the last page.
Última edição por Chompman; 16/ago./2018 às 15:30
Omega 16/ago./2018 às 15:30 
Escrito originalmente por Chompman:
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
Incorrect:
https://www.techspot.com/review/1627-core-i5-8400-vs-ryzen-5-2600/
I suggest you look again,

The stock ryzen performs under the i5 in almost all the games.

You cannot compare a oc cpu vs a non oc one and call it fair game.
Keep scrolling. At stock it is 50/50, in some games Intel with in others AMD.

OCing is perfectly fair. That 4.2Ghz OC is what all of these chips should be capable off. Not my problem you need to pay the Intel tax for the right to OC on their platform.

This stuff is also all benchmarked with a 1080 ti. So you should only look at the 1440p benchmarks.


All these Intel fanboys claiming Intel has the better chip because it gets 30fps more at 720p in Call of Duty 2 with a 1080 ti.. :steamfacepalm:'


This should be a no-brainer. Get the 12 threads over the 6..
Última edição por Omega; 16/ago./2018 às 15:31
Chompman 16/ago./2018 às 15:33 
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
Escrito originalmente por Chompman:
I suggest you look again,

The stock ryzen performs under the i5 in almost all the games.

You cannot compare a oc cpu vs a non oc one and call it fair game.
Keep scrolling. At stock it is 50/50, in some games Intel with in others AMD.

OCing is perfectly fair. That 4.2Ghz OC is what all of these chips should be capable off. Not my problem you need to pay the Intel tax for the right to OC on their platform.

This stuff is also all benchmarked with a 1080 ti. So you should only look at the 1440p benchmarks.


All these Intel fanboys claiming Intel has the better chip because it gets 30fps more at 720p in Call of Duty 2 with a 1080 ti.. :steamfacepalm:
It has nothing to do with the "fanboy" attitude you state when the site you linked shows the stock cpu's that the i5 is the clear winner.

I strongly suggest you look on the last page and see they even state it there.

They not only show out of the 36 average games fps the i5 is a winner but also point out for this overclock version it would cost as much as an 8600k and that would beat this overclocked 2600 hands down again.

Escrito originalmente por Omega:
This stuff is also all benchmarked with a 1080 ti. So you should only look at the 1440p benchmarks.

Op is using an gtx 980 and a "new" 1080p monitor so unless he is going to upgrade those also then the 1080p is what needs to be focused on here.
Última edição por rotNdude; 17/ago./2018 às 9:45
Omega 16/ago./2018 às 15:39 
Escrito originalmente por Chompman:
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
Keep scrolling. At stock it is 50/50, in some games Intel with in others AMD.

OCing is perfectly fair. That 4.2Ghz OC is what all of these chips should be capable off. Not my problem you need to pay the Intel tax for the right to OC on their platform.

This stuff is also all benchmarked with a 1080 ti. So you should only look at the 1440p benchmarks.


All these Intel fanboys claiming Intel has the better chip because it gets 30fps more at 720p in Call of Duty 2 with a 1080 ti.. :steamfacepalm:
It has nothing to do with the "fanboy" attitude you state when the site you linked shows the stock cpu's that the i5 is the clear winner.

I strongly suggest you look on the last page and see they even state it there.

They not only show out of the 36 average games fps the i5 is a winner but also point out for this overclock version it would cost as much as an 8600k and that would beat this overclocked 2600 hands down again.
Yes. Running a single thread heavy game with a artificially introduced bottleneck is a super fair comparison. :steamfacepalm:

If you own a 1080 ti you are not going to game in 720p or 1080p.

These benchmarks are done in such a way that the chip with the better single core wins almost every time. The games with both DX11 and DX12 are all benched in DX11 for example to keep the Ryzen from using all it's threads.


Put a 1060 next to these CPUs and bench at 1080p and the performance will be more or less identical.


Escrito originalmente por Chompman:
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
This stuff is also all benchmarked with a 1080 ti. So you should only look at the 1440p benchmarks.

Op is using an gtx 980 and a "new" 1080p monitor so unless he is going to upgrade those also then the 1080p is what needs to be focused on here.
This 980 is similar in performance to the 1060 which is a 1080p card. You can't compare it to a 1080 ti.
Última edição por Omega; 16/ago./2018 às 15:40
Chompman 16/ago./2018 às 15:42 
Escrito originalmente por Omega:
Escrito originalmente por Chompman:
It has nothing to do with the "fanboy" attitude you state when the site you linked shows the stock cpu's that the i5 is the clear winner.

I strongly suggest you look on the last page and see they even state it there.

They not only show out of the 36 average games fps the i5 is a winner but also point out for this overclock version it would cost as much as an 8600k and that would beat this overclocked 2600 hands down again.
Yes. Running a single thread heavy game with a artificially introduced bottleneck is a super fair comparison. :steamfacepalm:

If you own a 1080 ti you are not going to game in 720p or 1080p.

These benchmarks are done in such a way that the chip with the better single core wins almost every time. The games with both DX11 and DX12 are all benched in DX11 for example to keep the Ryzen from using all it's threads.


Put a 1060 next to these CPUs and bench at 1080p and the performance will be more or less identical.
I strongly suggest you look at what op is playing as he has said it and what other parts he is using.

The site you linked shows i5 winning clearly in pubg as destiny 2 is not shown and if you are going to link such a site make sure it supports your defense and not the other sides.
upcoast 16/ago./2018 às 15:46 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou_LI2ZdU_k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEz0ysFjzGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYd47HIkJ7Y

PUBG does very well ^ on quads the GTX1060 3GBG is worse than your GTX980 so maybe look at settings / DDU your GPU drivers.


I believe the GTX980/GTX1060 6GB and Ultra / maxed settings is overly ambitious at 1080p.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP2-szQCi9w

Many times the GTX1060 ^ dips below your target into the 50s fps even with a beast of a cpu.
Chompman 16/ago./2018 às 15:49 
Escrito originalmente por upcoast:

Many times the GTX1060 ^ dips below your target into the 50s fps even with a beast of a cpu.

Sadly pubg is still very unoptimized so op will have issues for it until it's fixed.
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