Cpu Upgrade

[Lewmush]

i have a fx 4300 and i want to upgrade to a 6300 to fix some botlencking on my gtx 1050. Im just concerned if i have to do something other than swap it out. Thanks

[Cathulhu]

Not much of an upgrade and not worth the money.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-FX-4300/1555vs2879
Barely 10% increase.

Even the very cheap Ryzen 1200 would be a massive improvement:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-1200-vs-AMD-FX-4300/3931vs2879

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Yeah leaving FX is the way to go.

If you want to go cheap and use your DDR3 then sell your motherboard and CPU for whatever it's worth and buy old used Intel stuff, including old quad core Xeons online.

DDR4 is still a bit expensive but if you bought some cheapish motherboard with just 8 GB of RAM maybe and a cheap CPU maybe you could deal with it. Like B350 (need BIOS upgrade first) or B450 motherboard with at-least Ryzen 3 2200G and 8 GB of DDR4.

FX isn't really cutting it.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah leaving FX is the way to go.

If you want to go cheap and use your DDR3 then sell your motherboard and CPU for whatever it's worth and buy old used Intel stuff, including old quad core Xeons online.

DDR4 is still a bit expensive but if you bought some cheapish motherboard with just 8 GB of RAM maybe and a cheap CPU maybe you could deal with it. Like B350 (need BIOS upgrade first) or B450 motherboard with at-least Ryzen 3 2200G and 8 GB of DDR4.

FX isn't really cutting it.

Using a Xeon may be only a side grade though. If the OP got an FX8350 They’d be in better shape than the FX4300, could use the GTX1050ti without it bottlenecking, and still get away with playing most of their game library on high or max settings :-)

[MA☝Omgwtfbbqstfu™]

Cathulhu eredeti hozzászólása:

Not much of an upgrade and not worth the money.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-FX-4300/1555vs2879
Barely 10% increase.

Even the very cheap Ryzen 1200 would be a massive improvement:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-1200-vs-AMD-FX-4300/3931vs2879

Its $40 bucks drop in(assuming motherboard support) vs much more.
He might as well top out the cpu support for his board at that price, it can't hurt.

Look up your motherboard cpu compatibility list op, maybe a bios flash is required, that's about it.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

1. What's your budget?

2. The FX 4300 to FX 6300 is barely an upgrade, if you're getting bottleneck as you claim, you may still get it even after going to FX 6300.

3. GTX 1050 should be fine with your CPU, so I have to assume you're having a CPU bottleneck because of certain games you're having trouble with, which if that is the case, you should really reconsider getting something that will do the job hands down, such as AMD Ryzen, or Intel which is basically double or more for performance. But that would mean you need to get DDR4 RAM, and new motherboard.

4. If you want to stick to what you have, check if your motherboard can support FX 8350, that's basically the dead end for your FX series other than the FX 9xxx series which requires a high end AMD motherboard as they suck a whole lot of power, compare to all the other FX series.

[Lewmush]

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 eredeti hozzászólása:

1. What's your budget?

2. The FX 4300 to FX 6300 is barely an upgrade, if you're getting bottleneck as you claim, you may still get it even after going to FX 6300.

3. GTX 1050 should be fine with your CPU, so I have to assume you're having a CPU bottleneck because of certain games you're having trouble with, which if that is the case, you should really reconsider getting something that will do the job hands down, such as AMD Ryzen, or Intel which is basically double or more for performance. But that would mean you need to get DDR4 RAM, and new motherboard.

4. If you want to stick to what you have, check if your motherboard can support FX 8350, that's basically the dead end for your FX series other than the FX 9xxx series which requires a high end AMD motherboard as they suck a whole lot of power, compare to all the other FX series.

I’m not confident at all with my pc and exchanging parts. I bought it 2nd hand of a friend for around £250 which in my eyes seems like a bargain. Could we change the situation over to a fx 8350 then?

[Sapph]

It's just not worth it.
AM3+ and the FX cpus are dead platform and horrible.

FX8xxx needs really beefy cooler and equally good motherboard to keep feeding it enough power.
If you have insufficient power delivery on the motherboard, FX8xxx will only end up overheating and burning it.

Your best best would be:
sell the FX + mobo + RAM and buy something like this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hgZpwV

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

HeckinEpic eredeti hozzászólása:

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 eredeti hozzászólása:

1. What's your budget?

2. The FX 4300 to FX 6300 is barely an upgrade, if you're getting bottleneck as you claim, you may still get it even after going to FX 6300.

3. GTX 1050 should be fine with your CPU, so I have to assume you're having a CPU bottleneck because of certain games you're having trouble with, which if that is the case, you should really reconsider getting something that will do the job hands down, such as AMD Ryzen, or Intel which is basically double or more for performance. But that would mean you need to get DDR4 RAM, and new motherboard.

4. If you want to stick to what you have, check if your motherboard can support FX 8350, that's basically the dead end for your FX series other than the FX 9xxx series which requires a high end AMD motherboard as they suck a whole lot of power, compare to all the other FX series.

I’m not confident at all with my pc and exchanging parts. I bought it 2nd hand of a friend for around £250 which in my eyes seems like a bargain. Could we change the situation over to a fx 8350 then?

I need you to list me two things, the PSU, and the motherboard model.

If you have trouble listing your motherboard, get CPU-Z for us, then run it, click validate button to the right bottom, and click the submit, your broswer will open, copy the whole link and paste it here in the discussion please.

http://i.imgur.com/aJIzuos.png

CPUZ
https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.86-en.exe

For PSU you need to open the side panel of your system, and look for the small enclosed box that has wires coming out of it, read the label, and list the model, and brand of it.

Sapph eredeti hozzászólása:

FX8xxx needs really beefy cooler and equally good motherboard to keep feeding it enough power.
If you have insufficient power delivery on the motherboard, FX8xxx will only end up overheating and burning it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1234174346

Sapph eredeti hozzászólása:

It's just not worth it.
AM3+ and the FX cpus are dead platform and horrible.

Your best best would be:
sell the FX + mobo + RAM and buy something like this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hgZpwV

Yes it's a dead platform, and not worth staying with at all, it would be best to go with AMD Ryzen, or Intel.

[Harry Gumdropzap]

fx series isnt that good anymore, if you want to stay with the modern stuff you will need a new motherboard and RAM to go with that shiny new processor from this year

if you dont want to spend that much money, find a processor and motherboard that support DDR3 memory

[upcoast]

https://www.youtube.com/user/Brudavaloredge/videos

Check through some of these ^, if you are thinking of a drop in upgrade the FX8350 is the only cpu to get. AC:Odessey is about the only recent game FX is having an unplayable experience with the settings cranked.

The recent intel/amd budget quads aren't really worth the big expense going from an FX8350. It would be Ryzen 2600 or i5 8400 if you really want to upgrade the whole platform

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVUj0CvdbKQ


Besides all that ^ you've only got a gtx1050 so I wouldn't worry much about any real FX8350 bottleneck until you get up to the GTX1060/70 and then that would be per game individually, I have had no problems running the games in my library at very high or ultra 1080p with the FX8350/GTX1070.

[Lewmush]

upcoast eredeti hozzászólása:

https://www.youtube.com/user/Brudavaloredge/videos

Check through some of these ^, if you are thinking of a drop in upgrade the FX8350 is the only cpu to get. AC:Odessey is about the only recent game FX is having an unplayable experience with the settings cranked.

The recent intel/amd budget quads aren't really worth the big expense going from an FX8350. It would be Ryzen 2600 or i5 8400 if you really want to upgrade the whole platform

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVUj0CvdbKQ


Besides all that ^ you've only got a gtx1050 so I wouldn't worry much about any real FX8350 bottleneck until you get up to the GTX1060/70 and then that would be per game individually, I have had no problems running the games in my library at very high or ultra 1080p with the FX8350/GTX1070.

so if i was to upgrade from my 4300 would i have to do anything else other than swap them out

[Sapph]

HeckinEpic eredeti hozzászólása:

so if i was to upgrade from my 4300 would i have to do anything else other than swap them out

Well, depending of your cooler, you would need to get a new one. Something quite beefy. Preferably liquid-cooler.

Also, if your motherboard is low end and doesn't have sufficient VRM/Power phases, it can't handle the FX8xxx cpu.
And in some games you wouldn't even see improvement due to weak single core performance.


All in all, it would be much better to just upgrade to newer platform. The kind of set I made earlier is good upgrade.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/hgZpwV

[Lewmush]

Sapph eredeti hozzászólása:

HeckinEpic eredeti hozzászólása:

so if i was to upgrade from my 4300 would i have to do anything else other than swap them out

Well, depending of your cooler, you would need to get a new one. Something quite beefy. Preferably liquid-cooler.

Also, if your motherboard is low end and doesn't have sufficient VRM/Power phases, it can't handle the FX8xxx cpu.

And in some games you wouldn't even see improvement due to weak single core performance.

i dont mean to be a slight ♥♥♥♥ but if im wanting to upgrade to an fx 8350 without moving up to a ryzen or intel board do you really think i would get water cooling?

[Sapph]

HeckinEpic eredeti hozzászólása:

i dont mean to be a slight ♥♥♥♥ but if im wanting to upgrade to an fx 8350 without moving up to a ryzen or intel board do you really think i would get water cooling?

It's not about "Would I", it's more about "Have to".
FX8xxx are HOT and use a lot power. Not just any cooler can keep them at proper temperatures.

8350 can use about 125W of power at stock and that requires cooler that is able to dissipate 125W worth of heat.

[Lewmush]

Sapph eredeti hozzászólása:

HeckinEpic eredeti hozzászólása:

i dont mean to be a slight ♥♥♥♥ but if im wanting to upgrade to an fx 8350 without moving up to a ryzen or intel board do you really think i would get water cooling?

It's not about "Would I", it's more about "Have to".
FX8xxx are HOT and use a lot power. Not just any cooler can keep them at proper temperatures.

or just a £40 cooler master one