Is it worth it to upgrade from a i7-4790k to a i7-8700k?

[TheMickeyMoose]

Would the upgrade be worth it? I currently have a 1080TI and was thinking of getting a 1440p/165hz monitor. Should I upgrade now or wait?

[Monk]

Unless you do a bunch of streaming or need the extra cores, it's probably not needed really, just of the 4790k and it should do fine for the most part.
Now, if you want it and can easily afford it and have a high refresh screen, sure go for it, you will gain a few extra frames, but you will need new RAM and a motherboard to along with possibly a new cooler, so it won't be cheap.

[A Boogie wit da Hoodie]

no

[anrkyuk]

The i7 4790k is powerful enough not to bottleneck the 1080 Ti and while the i7 8700k is about 35% more powerful in synth benchmarks the only real noticable gain would be in games that are heavily CPU dependant like ARK or Arma 3.

[A Boogie wit da Hoodie]

You're better off getting a second 1080 ti for the same price

[anrkyuk]

Or just wait for the eventual (hopefully this year) release of the GTX 11XX cards.

[upcoast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2q6iw8jP_U

No, not worth the effort really.

[hawkeye]

Originally posted by upcoast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2q6iw8jP_U

No, not worth the effort really.

I have 2600, 6700k, 8700k systems and an extreme edition 1080ti. The 8700k scores in the video above don't look genuine to me.

Here is a video that tests some of the same games and examines the impact of overclocking and memory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZIVaGcax70

Compare video 1 at the 3:33 mark versus video 2 at 12:43
vid 1 at 3:04 verus vid 2 at 14:12

[John Doe]

Originally posted by yayotte:

You're better off getting a second 1080 ti for the same price

A 1080 Ti costs much more than a 8700K, and given the multi-GPU headache he will have, he's much better off getting the 8700K if he wants to upgrade. The 4790K will work, but I never looked back when I got rid of it for a 5820K.

[upcoast]

Originally posted by hawkeye:

Originally posted by upcoast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2q6iw8jP_U

No, not worth the effort really.

I have 2600, 6700k, 8700k systems and an extreme edition 1080ti. The 8700k scores in the video above don't look genuine to me.

Here is a video that tests some of the same games and examines the impact of overclocking and memory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZIVaGcax70

Compare video 1 at the 3:33 mark versus video 2 at 12:43
vid 1 at 3:04 verus vid 2 at 14:12

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/76333-i7-2600k-vs-i7-8700k-upgrading-worthwhile-15.html

And you'll go ^ round and round until your head hurts, lol.

[John Doe]

Please stop posting these stupid things. It helps nothing. There is no PUBG on that so called "review", which is very CPU intensive. A turd can run Overwatch, testing with that game is almost as bad as testing with CS: GO.

I'm on a 2700X right now and while it isn't as good as my (now dead while delidding) 7820X, it's still a pretty good CPU. I clocked it to 4.4 with the stock cooler which is bigger / heftier than the old Wraith I had. Kicks close to 1500 pts in Userbenchmark 64 thread. He could also get that.

[upcoast]

Originally posted by John Doe:

Please stop posting these stupid things. It helps nothing. There is no PUBG on that so called "review", which is very CPU intensive. A turd can run Overwatch, testing with that game is almost as bad as testing with CS: GO.

I'm on a 2700X right now and while it isn't as good as my (now dead while delidding) 7820X, it's still a pretty good CPU. I clocked it to 4.4 with the stock cooler which is bigger / heftier than the old Wraith I had. Kicks close to 1500 pts in Userbenchmark 64 thread. He could also get that.

Why don't you shut up and stop trying to think you know everything, your arrogance gets tiresome.
Yes we all know you got a new Ryzen 2700x good for you.

As far as PUBG a freaking i3 8100 is sufficient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvwrGx5uas

[John Doe]

Originally posted by upcoast:

Originally posted by John Doe:

Please stop posting these stupid things. It helps nothing. There is no PUBG on that so called "review", which is very CPU intensive. A turd can run Overwatch, testing with that game is almost as bad as testing with CS: GO.

I'm on a 2700X right now and while it isn't as good as my (now dead while delidding) 7820X, it's still a pretty good CPU. I clocked it to 4.4 with the stock cooler which is bigger / heftier than the old Wraith I had. Kicks close to 1500 pts in Userbenchmark 64 thread. He could also get that.

Why don't you shut up and stop trying to think you know everything, your arrogance gets tiresome.
Yes we all know you got a new Ryzen 2700x good for you.

As far as PUBG a freaking i3 8100 is sufficient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOvwrGx5uas

Why don't you stop posting these stupid links? We don't need them. There are more reputable sources like TPU benchies that are THERE for Sandy Bridge vs Coffee Lake comparison.

Sufficient.. yes, wants and needs are different things. That's what you don't seem to be getting.

[Monk]

Got to wonder how you killed your chip deliding it and why you bought a whole new platform instead of just a new chip?

As for the OP, the gains he will have will be minimal so it's not really worth the expense, so with the question being 'is it worth' the only answer should be, no.
So you've gone 4790k, 5820k, 7820x, 2700x that's alot of chips and platform changes for no real performance gains, and a performance drop on the last one.

[John Doe]

24 hours without sleep and gone into it with a plier, screwdriver and whatever tool kit of that kind I had in the room... cracked the corner of it apart. It was an extremely small crack but suffice to kill it, I then said screw it and turned that crack into a huge one. Damn thing was literally ripped apart... oh well, almost cried but then started lolling at it. :D

Yeah, there are other chips in between too, like the 7800X and the 6800K. I just change them whenever I like, for fun reasons.

The last one is indeed a performance drop but the 7900X prices are insane for such a hot chip. This CPU is far more efficient than even a Kaby Lake-S will ever be. This is what I just pulled with the stock cooler + a crazy delta fan directed at it:

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/9646308

Came pretty close to my 4.9 7820X actually, I hope AMD gets it better next time and slaps it into greedy Intel's face. Once I get the AMD bracket for my EK Predator block come, I'll push it even harder. Might as well buy a seperate EK Supremacy full nickel and stick that up to my Aqua system... then it'll be screaming for MORE POWER :-).

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

It would be an upgrade at-least but there's an 8 core rumored.

The 8 core would definitely be faster than Ryzen 7 2700X (i7 8700K already is for all I care) and as such may cost more so it may no longer have an 8700K price, but at-least it will exist and be even more of an upgrade if you want too.

Wait for that I figure, maybe RAM prices will fall some time while waiting plus Z390 will be out.

As for PUBG, 1080Ti 720p in Hardware unboxed videos:
Ryzen 5 2600 stock with stock RAM: 97 fps avg, 82 fps low.
Ryzen 5 2600 4.2 GHz OC with fast RAM and timings: 99 fps avg, 87 fps low.
Ryzen 7 2700 4.2 GHz OC with fast RAM and timings: 104 fps avg, 88 fps low.
i5 8400 stock: 108 fps avg, 94 fps low.
i7 8700K 5.0 GHz with fast RAM and timings: 122 fps avg, 103 fps low.

So for PUBG the i7 8700K 5.0 GHz is 26% faster than 2600, 23% faster than 2600 with OC, 17% faster than 2700X with OC and 17% faster than i5 8400.

So for that specific title i5 8400 is pretty fine but i7 8700K is best. In general though the 2600 with OC and fast RAM beat the i5 8400 at stock but it's kinda unfair to run that with stock RAM and compare.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MFH2oQr0yn5xsK1kBhIMKWzeV3U1pb8ZpUeC0KKhvNg/edit?usp=sharing

Fun to break the 8700K.

The Z370 platform is better than the X470 too but also after having handled both CPUs the Ryzen 7 2700X feel so fragile with the heavy weight and all those pins just waiting to be bent as you try to clean the heat spreader against the relatively "fail-safe" Intel chip.
Well.. unless you get a screwdriver and plier and try to break into it that is ..