Have 12 GB RAM/ Games use 8/ MULTI TASKING - Slow when game in background

[1984]

thx for all help

[Sapph]

What are the exact specs?

[Sapph]

You should have plenty with even 12Gb RAM.
Running out of RAM won't affect your game performance considerably.
What games are you testing?

Could be your CPU just simply isn't strong enough. After all, it is almost 10 years old.

[Sapph]

Zero Thousand Percent původně napsal:

I do not mean to be rude. But please read the description accurately.

The problem here is not the game performance which is tip top, The problem is multi tasking when the game is in the background. Like running Chrome and steam and all those other ♥♥♥♥♥♥ at the same time

Well, check your RAM usage when that happens. If you are running 11.5-11.6gb, it does mean that you are indeed still running out of it. (400-500Mb is usually reserver for the system and thus won't show in the usage)

[Sapph]

Zero Thousand Percent původně napsal:

alright thanks

But honestly, unless you're running a ton of background programs and A LOT tabs in the Chrome, 12Gb should be plenty.

I myself am fairly heavy multi-tasker and I have hard time even going up to 10Gb when gaming. 9Gb is what I usually end up at.

[Sapph]

Zero Thousand Percent původně napsal:

I just cant think of anything else to be the problem becasue cpu is mostly at 10% max, windows is fresh and all I see is 0 free ram, i will check for ram in actual use but if there is like 10 in use and 2 cached, does it still mean an upgrade is needed?

Dont forget anti virus software, windows, steam, chrome is heavy and well just stuff.

Not exactly. It seems your Windows installation/pc has hard time in releasing the freed up RAM.

I remember something about this being an issue with Win7 with some hardware.
There was another person around these discussions who had similar problem. Maybe a week or so ago.

EDIT: the fix for it was a Microsoft's program called RAMMap.

Well, it's not so much of a fix, than just a temporary remedy.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

I guess and other programs may compete for access to all cores rather than splitting them up between each other. I don't know if pressing Windows+G and enable game mode would help.

But also the processor isn't as good as a new one and if you have triple channel it won't be all that bad then again my dual channel RAM can run at 3466 MHz so it's still a bit above.

No idea what you paid for the 980X but stuff like the X5670 would had been cheap as said but since your X58 motherboard carries quite a bit of value you could had sold and gotten i3 8100 or better. Or whatever.

[Satoru]

Note that if you have 12gb of ram but have 1000 chrome tabs open then its gonna limit how much actual usable system memory is available. Thus while you may have more than the minimum, your usage of that ram can impact game performace

[InfinityJosh]

Your PC should be able to play any game at 1080p high settings and regardless how many browser tabs you have.
12GB are plenty, it should be a OS issue.
Try reinstall OS.

[Monk]

Aliquis tripple channel doesn't mean it runs at 3x the speed it's still DDR memory, it just has 3 channels instead of two or the modern HEDT quad channel and some server boards are at 6 channel now.

On the note of bad performance, it depends on the game and just how many tabs you have open.

Your RAM is very slow by modern standards and your CPU isn't exactly blazing a trail at those clock speeds either.

Are you running off a HDD or SSD? As if you exceed your RAM and get into the pagefile that will slow down ALOT, especially on a HDD.

Again, depending on the game, you could be hitting your GPU'S Vram limit, as 4GB was one of the main reasons I upgraded.

Really, without you telling us exactly what it is you are doing it's hard to say what the issue is.

At face value I'd say you've simply found the limits of your older tech.

[Monk]

Zero Thousand Percent původně napsal:

Infinity Josh původně napsal:

Your PC should be able to play any game at 1080p high settings and regardless how many browser tabs you have.
12GB are plenty, it should be a OS issue.
Try reinstall OS.

FOR F*CKS SAKE PLEASE READ THE DESCRIPTION PEOPLE. IT IS NOT ABOUT GAMING IT IS ABOUT MULTI TASKING. NOBODY READS IT I EVEN SIMPLIFIED .

Having a few windows open does not equal multi tasking really.

Try telling us exactly what you are doing, the game is clearly using most of your resources.

So far, you seem to be being very rude to those trying to help someone who cannot even give the basic information of what's running at the time.


Edit.
In reply, your CPU and ram us old and can't handle it clearly. Tell us what you are running and we may be able to see why it's running so badly.

Also, have you tried running Windows 10 over the now pretty damn dated 7?

[Monk]

Well first off I'd start by overclocking the CPU and the RAM to get a bit more out of it which should aid in multi-tasking, the reason we keep bringing up the game is it's obviously hogging your resources. Is it slow when alt tabbing or just laggy when it's in the back ground (as in other apps are slow to respond) all the time?

You could see if you get any better results with the game in windowed, full screen windowed and must full screen, some games can act funny when minimised.

To get a better idea of what is actually going on with your system you should download hwmonitor and boot it up, it will record and show everything including min, max and current loads.

Also, does it do this on all games when they are in the back ground? Or just one?
Just how many tabs do you have open?
Is it running off an HDD or SSD?

Finally, everything is running nice and in spec temp wise right?

[Monk]

It seems like it is maxing out a single core for some reason, which is something hwmonitor would give more insight into it.

Are you running the latest bios for your motherboard?

Also looking at your profile I'll guess the game is dead by daylight, alas I don't own it so cannot check to see how it behaves on my systems when minimised (some games do weird stuff when minimised).

I'd give windows 10 a try, the 'spying' is harmless and can be turned off and it should handle multiple taski g a bit better, plus, it's free (use windows media creation tool) and could atleast see if the issue persists.

To see how your 980x holds up to modern CPU's run the free firestrike test or cinebench r15, but it's around 50-80% behind an 8700k with the 980 scoring 900-1000 multi threaded overclocked with the 8700k coming g in at around 1600-1700 while single core for a 980x comes in around 120 Vs the 8700ks 220 ish, so there have been some substantial improvements.

None of this really explains your issues, but it should point out there have been considerable gains over the last 8 years.

[CELL_BE]

I have an I7 950 and 24GB of ram and multitasking isn’t a problem. Maybe Chrome is the cause here, try another browser and see what happens

[Monk]

AHH ... Yeah I had issues with ME:A it would never let go of RAM and onboard the ship became really bad and laggy, I think a fresh install fixed it.

[Null_User]

If you are running out of ram, get more. People will say 12 or 16 or whatever is enough. But that's just for when only playing a game. I myself run 16GB and I have seen myself multi tasking a bit when modding. Game open, Blender open, texture editing application open, browser with 10+ tabs open, you name it. SO far, 16GB has been enough for it all, but in extreme cases (or when one or more of your applications bleed memory), 24 or even 32 may be needed. 1066 isn't fast by today's standards, but isn't slow enough to cause issues like that either.