Bios update disabled XMP

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When I installed a new mobo called "MSI B360M PRO-VD" everything worked fine including XMP but wanting to keep things secure and bug-free I updated the bios to version 1.3 (a May release) and now XMP can't be enabled. I didn't make a note of the previous version but think it was released in February 2018 on maybe the 25th.

The MSI site only gives 3 bios options to download starting from March 2018, not February. The files are called 7B53v13 (v1.3, installed), 7B53v12 (v1.2) and 7B53v11 (v1.1).

Link to the bios: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B360M-PRO-VD

Should I try installing the 2 older March releases, 1.2 or 1.1, to see if that enables XMP? I don't want to mess about with the cmos as I'm a novice.

My DDR4 2666Mhz memory is now running at a lower 2133Mhz because XMP is not active. Part number for the RAM is CMK16GX4M2A2666C16 (16GB Vengeance LPX).

[𝔇ave]

i would try clearing cmos first and if that doesnt fix it flash it back to the old one. ive heard on some boards newer bios requires an overclock on the cpu to allow xmp but that might not be true.

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I thought cmos only handled settings, not the actual bios version. Are you saying if clear the cmos it will rollback the version number?

[𝔇ave]

no it wont roll it back but it will clear the bios of any settings that may be causing an issue

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I never changed any settings in bios other than enabling XMP in the old version but can't do that in this new version so just went to the steam forum.

I'm going to take a deeper look in the bios and see if there's an xmp setting somewhere else other than the overview screen, but I doubt it.

[Omega]

Then flash the BIOS again with an older version.

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Originally posted by Omega:

Then flash the BIOS again with an older version.

OK, I've now done it and it worked. The latest bios (v1.3) seems to have the issue because v1.2 allows me to enable XMP.

Oh well, so much for getting the latest version.

[𝔇ave]

lesson learned then.. dont flash your bios unless you need to.. sometimes new drivers\bios can cause more issues than they fix.

[Buck]

You might want to ask MSI support what those version #'s are about. They might just be slightly newer revisions of the same BIOS version, or they might be for different hardware revisions (which will usually be stamped on the box and board itself). that might explain why XMP toggles don't work.
For example, Asus has several different model's and revisions of the Z-97 board which all have different BIOS's. The BIOS for a first model Z-97 might flash to a Z-97-USB31, but the USB31 features would go away because the earlier board and BIOS didn't support it.

Originally posted by donTShoot:

I thought cmos only handled settings, not the actual bios version. Are you saying if clear the cmos it will rollback the version number?

CMOS = Complementary Metal-Oxide SemiConductor, this term refers to the actual physical technology used to create the chip that the BIOS (Basic Input/Output)/UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) program is installed on. They're different things, but people tend to use the terms interchangeably anyway.

"clearing CMOS" just refers to the process by which you remove stored user settings and checksum values which just reverts the BIOS/UEFI program to it's default values.You can do this via a jumper on the board, or by selecting the correct setting on the "exit" menu in the BIOS setup program.

Originally posted by Ðavз:

lesson learned then.. dont flash your bios unless you need to.. sometimes new drivers\bios can cause more issues than they fix.

Eh. There's two mindsets on this, "if it ain't broke.." and "always keep up to date". They're both valid. I personally tend to subscribe to the latter, but if v13 doesn't work for him and v12 does, then keep using that.

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If you go to the page which I linked to you'll see the 3 bios downloads for my specific board. Each one seems to fix a few issues from the last version but I'll stick with v1.2 for now.

[Buck]

Originally posted by donTShoot:

If you go to the page which I linked to you'll see the 3 bios downloads for my specific board. Each one seems to fix a few issues from the last version but I'll stick with v1.2 for now.

I understand that, what i'm saying is that those "version" #'s might be for different revision hardware. That might explain why one "works" while another doesn't.

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Ah, OK. I get you now.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

BIOS updates = revert all settings back to defaults

So... reconfigure the bios settings, very simple.
BIOS updates usually warn that it will do this.

Just like most Driver install/update will revert all those settings back to defaults; no surprise.

[TehSpoopyKitteh]

Originally posted by donTShoot:

When I installed a new mobo called "MSI B360M PRO-VD" everything worked fine including XMP but wanting to keep things secure and bug-free I updated the bios to version 1.3 (a May release) and now XMP can't be enabled. I didn't make a note of the previous version but think it was released in February 2018 on maybe the 25th.

The MSI site only gives 3 bios options to download starting from March 2018, not February. The files are called 7B53v13 (v1.3, installed), 7B53v12 (v1.2) and 7B53v11 (v1.1).

Link to the bios: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B360M-PRO-VD

Should I try installing the 2 older March releases, 1.2 or 1.1, to see if that enables XMP? I don't want to mess about with the cmos as I'm a novice.

My DDR4 2666Mhz memory is now running at a lower 2133Mhz because XMP is not active. Part number for the RAM is CMK16GX4M2A2666C16 (16GB Vengeance LPX).

Uusally wehen you update the BIOS, it resets all the settings that pertain to the chipset and RAM. This is done to insure that everything works before you boot and to also insure that old, outdated settings or security exploits do remain enabled.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You also want this to occur, to ensure the system reboots properly after the update.
Once it has, enter the BIOS, actually select "Reset to Factory Defaults" and then "Save & Exit"
Rebooted once more, enter the BIOS and then actually reconfigure it all again for the actual settings you wish to use. After a BIOS update, do not OC anything until you see your OS is booting + working properly first.

Yes when you have the chance, re-enable XMP and select the correct Profile to ensure all your RAM runs at the correct settings. XMP = Disabled will just use AUTO + SPD @ 2133 (for DDR4) to ensure proper booting is all.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by donTShoot:

Originally posted by Omega:

Then flash the BIOS again with an older version.

OK, I've now done it and it worked. The latest bios (v1.3) seems to have the issue because v1.2 allows me to enable XMP.

Oh well, so much for getting the latest version.

What was even you reason behind updating the BIOS?
If you dont have an actual reason, as in, it addresses and issue you are having; then there is zero reasons to update it.

B360 is brand new to market, there is no security updates to be had that it doesn't already have out of the box.