Is my pc suitable for STREAMING?

[MeteorMash101]

Hey guys, I was wondering if my current pc build is suitable for twitch streaming (games like Overwatch) because when I try I get lagged in game often, and my cpu temps shoot up pretty higher than normal.

When I am not streaming, I can play with no lag, in ultra mode with no problemo. This all changes when I click the start streaming on OBS...

I am planning on comparing my pc parts to other twitch streamers and such, please let me know thanks!

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/shelby_sakamoto/saved/CLZpgs

[Omega]

It depends on the game. For more demanding AAA titles; no, your PC does not have the processing power for it.

Most streamers have a dedicated streaming machine or a 6/8 core processor in their gaming desktop.

[MeteorMash101]

Originally posted by Omega:

It depends on the game. For more demanding AAA titles; no, your PC does not have the processing power for it.

Most streamers have a dedicated streaming machine or a 6/8 core processor in their gaming desktop.

Ah I see. Explains why I do lag a ton on overwatch when streaming. One person has recommended an PCI-E based streaming card such as an Elgato pro, will that do the job as for giving my normal gaming experience while streaming?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

You can sell CPU and motherboard and get Ryzen 7 2700X and X470 motherboard:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qGYskd

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

What you can do now is to make sure you are using the nvenc/shadowplay/hardware video encoding in your graphics card.

Then it shouldn't have much impact and you'll be fine. The video quality of that encoder supposedly is worse than software based encoders but using a software based encoder at good quality have a decent impact even with 8 core processors and with 4 cores both your stream will drop frames and your game will run much worse. So using a software based encoder isn't really an option as is and even with a Ryzen 7 2700X you'd still have an impact.

Your graphics cards encoder you can already use but if you want to use something else / not use any part of your machine two alternative solutions it to get another secondary PC with a capture card which can grab your game play and then encode and stream that and handle your things there or simply a device made for that purpose.

The guy at "Tech Deals" on YouTube use some 4K capable streaming box for his game stream. I don't know what it cost but he can of course stream without a performance impact on his game since he use that. An external PC is just the same and I don't know how much of an impact using ShadowPlay/nvenc would result in.

[Sapph]

Your CPU definitely won't make it enjoyable to watch. While your games may run well, the stream will run bad if you use OBS.

However, if you use NVidia Shadowplay for streaming, you will have just fine stream quality.
But you will lack a lot of control over the stream, like proper layout, the stream stopping if you change game etc.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

OBS can use nvenc too.
And maybe the Intel one too.

It may also help to set OBS affinity to 1 core (two threads) and unless Windows plus the game doesn't make it nice automatically set the game to use the other three cores.
I think one core on the 6700K is capable of pretty good video quality and then you'd have three unaffected cores for games and many games run well on dual core i3s so shouldn't that be pretty ok?
If you don't do it though maybe both programs try to use all cores and threads and Windows switch between them which get to run on each hw thread resulting in small breaks at each switch.

The "Ryzen is better for streaming talk" is basically about how when streaming at very good quality the Intel CPUs won't keep up and drop frames in the stream / not finish all in time leading to a more jerky stream than with Ryzen with more cores. However Intel run games faster and in the case of the 8700K will likely do so even when streaming. By changing affinity you can improve the quality of the Intel stream to a similar result as with Ryzen and maybe keep you own game play advantage too. It's just that it take a tiny bit of additional work.

[Nabster]

I am noob in steaming, but I though i7 6700 is still a very capable cpu and overwatch is low requirement game, so I am suprised there is issue...

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Originally posted by Nabster:

I am noob in steaming, but I though i7 6700 is still a very capable cpu and overwatch is low requirement game, so I am suprised there is issue...

Seem like a bunch of people did ~3000 kbps 30 fps 720p streaming with OBS on the 6700K.
I've done ~6000 kbps 720p 60 fps one with the 2700X. That use very little CPU capacity but the in game impact is noticable.
I haven't changed core affinity though. I'd assume on the 2700X you could put OBS on 2 cores and game on 6 cores or 5+3 o whatever and be pretty fine with it.
As for the 6700K if you run OBS on 1-2 cores and the game on 2-3 cores I think it will be perfectly fine and enjoyable for all. Or if you use the hardware encoder on the graphics card.

[Cathulhu]

Your PC isn't the only possible bottleneck. Your internet connection is as well.
How much upload do you have?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Stream via 2x PCs
And yes you need an ISP Upload speed of approx 5-10 mbps for best results; unless you want picture quality to look like crap, in which no one will even look at your channel.

[PATENT]

Originally posted by Omega:

It depends on the game. For more demanding AAA titles; no, your PC does not have the processing power for it.

Most streamers have a dedicated streaming machine or a 6/8 core processor in their gaming desktop.

well there are multiple people streaming witcher 3 in 1080p/60fps with i7 4790k so i'm not sure what you're talking about. I asked them if they have any performance issues and they said that game is running fine without and stuttering, guy also had GTX 1070

Originally posted by MeteorMash101:

Originally posted by Omega:

It depends on the game. For more demanding AAA titles; no, your PC does not have the processing power for it.

Most streamers have a dedicated streaming machine or a 6/8 core processor in their gaming desktop.

Ah I see. Explains why I do lag a ton on overwatch when streaming. One person has recommended an PCI-E based streaming card such as an Elgato pro, will that do the job as for giving my normal gaming experience while streaming?

Overwatch is very CPU demanding game that's why you may get stuttering, however I know few streamer that have no problem streaming games like Witcher 3 in 1080p/60fps from their PC with i7 4790K/6700K with gtx 1070.

[InfinityJosh]

Originally posted by Omega:

It depends on the game. For more demanding AAA titles; no, your PC does not have the processing power for it.

Most streamers have a dedicated streaming machine or a 6/8 core processor in their gaming desktop.

An OC'd Pentium GOLD should be fine if he stream 1280x720p low settings (he may have low quality internet) DOTA 2 or CS:GO which are the most viewed games on streaming.
FXAA as antialiasing.
Use a cable nor Wi-Fi.

[Omega]

Originally posted by Infinity Josh:

Originally posted by Omega:

It depends on the game. For more demanding AAA titles; no, your PC does not have the processing power for it.

Most streamers have a dedicated streaming machine or a 6/8 core processor in their gaming desktop.

An OC'd Pentium GOLD should be fine if he stream 1280x720p low settings (he may have low quality internet) DOTA 2 or CS:GO which are the most viewed games on streaming.
FXAA as antialiasing.
Use a cable nor Wi-Fi.

1. A Pentium Gold can not OC
2. Not if you plan on playing anything more demanding then Hearthstone.

Originally posted by Patent:

Originally posted by Omega:

It depends on the game. For more demanding AAA titles; no, your PC does not have the processing power for it.

Most streamers have a dedicated streaming machine or a 6/8 core processor in their gaming desktop.

well there are multiple people streaming witcher 3 in 1080p/60fps with i7 4790k so i'm not sure what you're talking about. I asked them if they have any performance issues and they said that game is running fine without and stuttering, guy also had GTX 1070

I find that unlikely. But it does really depend on the game, I am unsure if the Witcher 3 is CPU heavy or not. It strikes me as a more GPU heavy game.

[MeteorMash101]

Originally posted by Cathulhu:

Your PC isn't the only possible bottleneck. Your internet connection is as well.
How much upload do you have?

I never get lagged in game, because I use ethernet...think that shouldn’t be a problem then.

I’m going to look into these solutions but getting a whole another pc seems a bit out of my budget. Is just getting a single capture card okay? Im also gonna look into shadowplay, etc

[󠁳⁧⁧m]

You can stream some high demanding games, you actually have a good setup.
Try optimizing your system doing performance-only and setup your stream with low video settings and bitrate.