Why Nvidia havent announced gtx 1180 yet even after Lenovo announced it?

[SHREDDER]

It has been 3 weeks since Lenovo announced GTX 1180 the next high end graphics card from nvidia. However even now, 3 weeks later nvidia havent announce it yet. Isnt it strange? Nvidia should had announced it the day lenovo announced it. What are they waiting for?

[[LTT] LinusFTW]

Because it was false...

Think about it, why would a laptop manufacturer announce something that they haven't got knowledge of?

[Omega]

Lenovo hasn't announced anything.

All that marketing guy said was that when the new Nvidia 11 (or 20) series launches those cards will be used in their prebuilt gaming machines.

He didn't confirm anything, he didn't announce anything, all he did was make a logical statement. Of course Lenovo will use the new cards once they launch, they are not going to keep using Pascal..

All this crap around that what this Lenovo marketing guy said is getting seriously overhyped. He probably doesn't know much more about the Nvidia 11 (or 20) series then we do.


Nvidia is waiting for a reason to actually release new cards, they are a company that only cares about earning money. Once AMD launches something half decent Nvidia will release new cards.

If AMD can't compete with the current Nvidia high-end and releases something on-par with it Nvidia will simply rebrand Pascal. They are not going to show us all of their cards unless they have to.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

All we have are ton of rumors and Nvidia CEO saying that new cards are long way away that could have been just said so people would not stop buying current Pascal.
When you go by AMD's progress then Nvidia has no reason to launch anything in few months really, more like beginning of next year.

[Viper]

Demand is high on GPUs right now. NVidia has absolutely no need to release the next generation. IT will be at least the end of this year..If not a couple of months in to 2019.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

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Demand is high on GPUs right now. NVidia has absolutely no need to release the next generation. IT will be at least the end of this year..If not a couple of months in to 2019.

According to whom? The claims has been made that some card maker/brand returned 300 000 gpus to nvidia if I remember accurately plus blockchain currencies suffered a blow and the mining market is less interested plus supposedly there was millions of unsold pascal cards and already a million+ of the new ones made plus supposed to be a 20% card price drop this month or something.

I think the reason they wait now is simply that they have so many of the old ones and want those sold first because they are no longer selling at the same price.

Someone also warned they will earn less right?

If they waited to 2019 then I'd assume that would be skipping those cards completely and release 7 nm instead because they feel they get so close in time for the next gen again. No one force them to release anything but I'm not buying and there's a trap in not releasing new stuff too. If Intel and Nvidia doesn't release new products even with no competition then they will sell less because some people do upgrade to a better setup if one exist.

[Viper]

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Viper eredeti hozzászólása:

Demand is high on GPUs right now. NVidia has absolutely no need to release the next generation. IT will be at least the end of this year..If not a couple of months in to 2019.

According to whom? The claims has been made that some card maker/brand returned 300 000 gpus to nvidia if I remember accurately plus blockchain currencies suffered a blow and the mining market is less interested plus supposedly there was millions of unsold pascal cards and already a million+ of the new ones made plus supposed to be a 20% card price drop this month or something.

I think the reason they wait now is simply that they have so many of the old ones and want those sold first because they are no longer selling at the same price.

Someone also warned they will earn less right?

If they waited to 2019 then I'd assume that would be skipping those cards completely and release 7 nm instead because they feel they get so close in time for the next gen again. No one force them to release anything but I'm not buying and there's a trap in not releasing new stuff too. If Intel and Nvidia doesn't release new products even with no competition then they will sell less because some people do upgrade to a better setup if one exist.

With Cryptomining jacking prices up the last year and supply so small that prices on GPUS went up to double I have no idea where you are getting your information. But that does not sound like the actual situation to me. GPU prices are just starting to drop down to near normal levels again. Where exactly did you read that.

[Viper]

At one point about 3 months ago . You had to reserve your purchase for a GTX 1080i and wait at least a month for them to be in stock. I know becasue i did that.

[Omega]

Viper eredeti hozzászólása:

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According to whom? The claims has been made that some card maker/brand returned 300 000 gpus to nvidia if I remember accurately plus blockchain currencies suffered a blow and the mining market is less interested plus supposedly there was millions of unsold pascal cards and already a million+ of the new ones made plus supposed to be a 20% card price drop this month or something.

I think the reason they wait now is simply that they have so many of the old ones and want those sold first because they are no longer selling at the same price.

Someone also warned they will earn less right?

If they waited to 2019 then I'd assume that would be skipping those cards completely and release 7 nm instead because they feel they get so close in time for the next gen again. No one force them to release anything but I'm not buying and there's a trap in not releasing new stuff too. If Intel and Nvidia doesn't release new products even with no competition then they will sell less because some people do upgrade to a better setup if one exist.

With Cryptomining jacking prices up the last year and supply so small that prices on GPUS went up to double I have no idea where you are getting your information. But that does not sound like the actual situation to me. GPU prices are just starting to drop down to near normal levels again. Where exactly did you read that.

Prices have dropped. Mining is dying for Joe Average, only the big guys are doing mining now.

It was all over the web a while ago:
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-oem-partner-300k-gpu-inventory-issues-next-gen-geforce-delay/

[Monk]

If they don't want a paper launch, and they REALLY don't seeing as they have obscene market share and not being able to keep up with demands of a new card would be very bad press.

GDDR6 only recently hit full production, so they have only recently had the hardware to even begin building and testing the new cards properly (although that's more for custom designs that reference most likely), so why release anything until they are totally prepared, it's not like they have any competition and pascal has been printing money for them so far (it's the most successful model line they've ever made).

If we look at history and rein in crazy expectations, we can expect the new 1180 to come in a bit ahead of a 1080ti, so, really, if you want that performance level, you sort of could just buy a 1080ti now, or wait and probably save a bit of cash.

Edit.
My money is still on an October release though.

[Viper]

Its the upgrade cycle. Thats what keeps NVidia in business. How high of a percentage of PC users do you think own 10th generation GPUs. I would venture to say 10-20%. There is still lots of money to make by selling there current GPUs. They are not going to release the next generation till that well is tapped out. I imagine it is completelly based on their sales figures. Once they reach a predefined level that is when they will announce a release date.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

Nvidia sits comfy right now .. AMD needs to release a faster GPU that beats Nvidia in speed and Price .. then we will see Next gen cards

also the 1180 rumour is its priced at $1500

[Null_User]

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Its the upgrade cycle. Thats what keeps NVidia in business. How high of a percentage of PC users do you think own 10th generation GPUs. I would venture to say 10-20%. There is still lots of money to make by selling there current GPUs. They are not going to release the next generation till that well is tapped out. I imagine it is completelly based on their sales figures. Once they reach a predefined level that is when they will announce a release date.

I'm in this boat. I wasn't going to replace my 680, not because of waiting for the new releases, but because it worked for what I was using it. Buuuuut it broke. RIP. So now I'm the "proud owner" of a 1060. >.<

[The Maddog]

I acctually have the "probable" answer for this.

https://videocardz.com/press-release/virtuallink-to-become-a-new-standard-connector-for-next-gen-vr-headsets

The reason nothing has been announced is because all GPUs (both Nvidia and AMD) will be getting a new standard connection port spefically for VR gaming. It was only announced yesterday. No doubt both Nvidia and AMD have had to wait a little whilst they hammered out the final details and whatever tests they've been doing with the leading PC VR manufacturing companies (which is pretty much Valve, Oculus and Microsoft) and confirm the chipset and port that was going to be the finalised industry standard.

Due to how much Nvidia and AMD are invested into VR and the fact every model of next gen card should work with VR headsets (assuming your CPU is powerful enough) it was going to happen sooner or later and no doubt played a little into slowing down the release of info on the next wave of cards.


Or not. Maybe I'm wrong but seems silly to release new hardware without new industry standards for said hardware being finalised.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

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With Cryptomining jacking prices up the last year and supply so small that prices on GPUS went up to double I have no idea where you are getting your information. But that does not sound like the actual situation to me. GPU prices are just starting to drop down to near normal levels again. Where exactly did you read that.

Last year isn't now.

What's hard understanding that they may have ordered a bit more cards when demand was high but since demand from mining plummeted now they have cards in stock which they of course want to sell at a reasonable price. The reason you originally didn't got a lot of cards is because while gamers are likely a pretty even demand for cards the mining craze and prices wasn't and they don't want to risk complete failure in making a lot of cards just to end up with way too many which they have to sell at a loss later. That's no good business. Plus with the jacked up prices possibly you could make the same profit without making more cards anyway. Demand is much lower now, prices are lower and the 300 000 returned units I think is a fact but the millions of cards in inventory may just be a rumor but possibly completely correct. I kinda only look at Gamers Nexus and wccftech and a bit of AMD reddit. WCCFTech kinda is a rumor site by design but that doesn't make things false by itself. Anyway that blockchain prices have a lower value and that miners being able to do other algortims has been made are facts at-least. As is lower demand which you are noticing as lower prices. And I don't find it all that unlikely that they may have tried to keep up with demand a bit but increasing manufacturing and now they have some units left because of that.

[Viper]

Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism eredeti hozzászólása:

Viper eredeti hozzászólása:

With Cryptomining jacking prices up the last year and supply so small that prices on GPUS went up to double I have no idea where you are getting your information. But that does not sound like the actual situation to me. GPU prices are just starting to drop down to near normal levels again. Where exactly did you read that.

Last year isn't now.

What's hard understanding that they may have ordered a bit more cards when demand was high but since demand from mining plummeted now they have cards in stock which they of course want to sell at a reasonable price. The reason you originally didn't got a lot of cards is because while gamers are likely a pretty even demand for cards the mining craze and prices wasn't and they don't want to risk complete failure in making a lot of cards just to end up with way too many which they have to sell at a loss later. That's no good business. Plus with the jacked up prices possibly you could make the same profit without making more cards anyway. Demand is much lower now, prices are lower and the 300 000 returned units I think is a fact but the millions of cards in inventory may just be a rumor but possibly completely correct. I kinda only look at Gamers Nexus and wccftech and a bit of AMD reddit. WCCFTech kinda is a rumor site by design but that doesn't make things false by itself. Anyway that blockchain prices have a lower value and that miners being able to do other algortims has been made are facts at-least. As is lower demand which you are noticing as lower prices. And I don't find it all that unlikely that they may have tried to keep up with demand a bit but increasing manufacturing and now they have some units left because of that.

Nobody said last year. The words where "Jacking up the prices the last year". in other words from now till 1 year ago. Sorry ..But just 1 to 2 months ago a GTX 1080tii costed $1500. They are still about $100 over MSRP at $800-$850. . Supply and demand determines prices. Demand is still high. GPUs are not on sale now the price is still above MSRP.You are also counterdicting yourself. You say they dont want to make a lot of cards to end up with to many and then you say they have millions of cards in inventory. It was a well known fact that there was a low supply of GPUS because of the Cryptominers and that was right up till a month ago. NVIdia said so themselves. Thats why when you made your statement. My reaction was like what that is not reality. You have not been paying attention the last year right up till present day.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/8/16993264/nvidia-gpu-supply-production-shortage-cryptocurrency-mining