Here my specs for the new PC I've got in mind.

[Spanky]

Some parts still needed. Due to feedback and personal wants OC was not needed but may be nice to see this PC do a dance.

NOT OWNED

PSU: Corsair CP-8920155 Premium PSU Cable Kit. Individually Sleeved Cables, Pro Package, White/Black
UPS:APC 1500VA Back-UPS Pro Sinewave UPS Battery Backup & Surge Protector (BR1500MS)

OWNED

GPU:ASRock Phantom Gaming X Radeon RX570 8G OC *ASRock recommended an AMD RX570 EBay.ca $293 CAD
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X Processor (YD170XBCAEWOF) *ASRock Recomended. From EBay.ca $233 CAD
Memory kit: ADATA Z1 8GB(2x8GB) DDR4 2666MHz CL16 DIMM Red (AX4U266638G16-SRZ.) From Amazon Canada $129 CAD
PSU: Corsair RM650i CP-9020081-NA 650 Watt $170 from Amazon Canada
Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H100i v2 CW-9060025-WW $130 CAD. From Amazon Canada
Chassis Fan: (Rear/Front fans replacement) ARCTIC AFACO-120PC-GBA01. 2x $14 CAD From Amazon Canada
Hard Disk:Western Digital Black PCIe Gen3 x4 2D NVMe SSD 256GB. $110 CAD From Newegg Canada.
XPG SX8200 480GB 3D NAND NVMe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 $150 CAD. from Amazon Canada
Chassis: Thermaltake Versa C22 Snow Edition RGB LED Lighting SPCC ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis CA-1G9-00M6WN-00 $85 CAD. From Amazon Canada
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 PRO4 ATX Motherboard $114 CAD. From Amazon Canada
Monitor: ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K/UHD 3840x2160 1ms DP HDMI Adaptive Sync/ FreeSync Eye Care Monitor $450 CAD. From BestBuy Canada
Keyboard and Mouse: Tt eSPORTS COMMANDER Red LED Ilumination Gaming Keyboard and Mouse Combo Bundle. $42 CAD From Amazon Canada
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Retail 32/64 Bit *Microsoft Recomended. $165 CAD From Microsoft Store Canada
SPEAKERS:Rockville ROCK MEDIA home/computer speakers and subwoofer $90 CAD Amazon Canada
Hard Disk:Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD - CT1000MX500SSD1 $165 CAD Amazon Canada

I’ll keep updating this OP as parts come in only I would like to know if anyone thinks I should benchmark my (what to call it...) “Mercy Versa C22 Standard PC?”
Comments welcome.

Total cost: $2,170 CAD

[Spanky]

Big Boom Boom の投稿を引用：

I'm just giving you the benefit of doubt and assume you simply don't understand what you are saying

https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/asus-prime-x370-pro-review/8/

For the power consumption tests, we measure via a power meter at the wall, so the numbers below are of total system power draw from the mains, not the power consumption of a CPU itself.

it's interesting that the list of test shows motherboards. I'm interested in knowing if it had all ports, and every hub connected, and not just the board itself. It also states that it didn't messure the cpu, so this gives me a tip towards a no. If they just tested the board then the load would be say 450W. Now add to it a gpu. Is that not more power for the motherboard to offload to the gpu? I swear it misleads.

[Monk]

you have to be trolling now, loads of us have all said the same thing, but you who has come asking for help etc refuses to listen and believe hard evidence, I mean it's literally no worry to us, we are just trying to teach and educate.

[Spanky]

Monk の投稿を引用：

you have to be trolling now, loads of us have all said the same thing, but you who has come asking for help etc refuses to listen and believe hard evidence, I mean it's literally no worry to us, we are just trying to teach and educate.

thank for the comments but I find it really wierd that you push me away when I do not understand.

[Monk]

We've all explained and given evidence of how much power is needed, but you keep telling us how we are wrong.

[76561198399520696]

Don't cheap out on your PSU, but don't buy a overkill PSU either. Look for the best quality and reliability. That's all!

[Spanky]

Monk の投稿を引用：

We've all explained and given evidence of how much power is needed, but you keep telling us how we are wrong.

you have not. prove it yourself. you come on my thread making accusation about me. Your trolling my thread, and wasting my time by saying nothing and leaving out the math. Your insane if you think I'm a troll. where is your math? I'm sick of people claiming I troll. It's the last time I heard that.

[Monk]

what math do you need ? we gave real life examples, you can easily search online for total system power draw, and everyone is telling you the same thing, if by trolling your thread you mean replying to you and trying to help then i have no idea what to say at this point.

[76561198399520696]

You can head to pc part picker and check what PSU with how much wattage ratings do you need.
To do this, put your computer specs in the list and it will tell you the required amount of wattage.

[Spanky]

You evaded my question with a question. What math do I need? Did you forget what we are talking about? I need the watts of the parts, so I can calculate a power supply capacity. Motherboards control power to any part connected that does not have a separate power cable. Put loads on all connected devices to the motherboard. Each part requires a certain amount right? So how do motherboards use 300W and only a GPU require a 500W? To power the motherboard it requires 300W, and GPU needs 500W at the same time on one power outlet from the wall. Where does all 300W AND 500W come from? A 500W power supply cannot fully power a 300W motherboard (and all connected devices through the motherboard power) AND 500W GPU. It will drain, and put power to whatever is being used. While operating the motherboard through an operating system it needs 300W consistently, and the GPU says a system needs 500W? How? Show me the math of the system, and GPU using one power supply of 500W together? I do not see on my Motherboard shipped box a total capacity of a full load with all things connected to it that are also running at full. I mean no one’s does that, but its simple math. Plug in a device and it draws power from the wall outlet into the power supply that is controlling different wattages at the same time. One thing will turn off or short if it can’t put power to it all at the same time.

InvetorXD の投稿を引用：

You can head to pc part picker and check what PSU with how much wattage ratings do you need.
To do this, put your computer specs in the list and it will tell you the required amount of wattage.

I've used that, it works but I still find it hard to understand when I see no watt of each part.

[Vince ✟]

New Base Zero-One の投稿を引用：

You evaded my question with a question. What math do I need? Did you forget what we are talking about? I need the watts of the parts, so I can calculate a power supply capacity. Motherboards control power to any part connected that does not have a separate power cable. Put loads on all connected devices to the motherboard. Each part requires a certain amount right? So how do motherboards use 300W and only a GPU require a 500W? To power the motherboard it requires 300W, and GPU needs 500W at the same time on one power outlet from the wall. Where does all 300W AND 500W come from? A 500W power supply cannot fully power a 300W motherboard (and all connected devices through the motherboard power) AND 500W GPU. It will drain, and put power to whatever is being used. While operating the motherboard through an operating system it needs 300W consistently, and the GPU says a system needs 500W? How? Show me the math of the system, and GPU using one power supply of 500W together? I do not see on my Motherboard shipped box a total capacity of a full load with all things connected to it that are also running at full. I mean no one’s does that, but its simple math. Plug in a device and it draws power from the wall outlet into the power supply that is controlling different wattages at the same time. One thing will turn off or short if it can’t put power to it all at the same time.

The math comes from using a meter and calculating actual draws versus what we estimate them to be when not connected at all. That would be my guess.

[rotNdude]

New Base Zero-One の投稿を引用：

You evaded my question with a question. What math do I need? Did you forget what we are talking about? I need the watts of the parts, so I can calculate a power supply capacity. Motherboards control power to any part connected that does not have a separate power cable. Put loads on all connected devices to the motherboard. Each part requires a certain amount right? So how do motherboards use 300W and only a GPU require a 500W? To power the motherboard it requires 300W, and GPU needs 500W at the same time on one power outlet from the wall. Where does all 300W AND 500W come from? A 500W power supply cannot fully power a 300W motherboard (and all connected devices through the motherboard power) AND 500W GPU. It will drain, and put power to whatever is being used. While operating the motherboard through an operating system it needs 300W consistently, and the GPU says a system needs 500W? How? Show me the math of the system, and GPU using one power supply of 500W together? I do not see on my Motherboard shipped box a total capacity of a full load with all things connected to it that are also running at full. I mean no one’s does that, but its simple math. Plug in a device and it draws power from the wall outlet into the power supply that is controlling different wattages at the same time. One thing will turn off or short if it can’t put power to it all at the same time.

InvetorXD の投稿を引用：

You can head to pc part picker and check what PSU with how much wattage ratings do you need.
To do this, put your computer specs in the list and it will tell you the required amount of wattage.

I've used that, it works but I still find it hard to understand when I see no watt of each part.

The motherboard only supplies power to the components/peripherals that draw power from the motherboard. For example (and these are exaggerated on the high side)

Motherboard chipset: 10W
USB ports: 15W
PCI-E slot for video card: 75W
CPU: 200W

That's a total of 300 Watts.

Now the video card takes an additional 200W with the connections directly from the power supply. The drives in your system draw power from the PSU directly, so add another 20W. Add that to the total so far and that's 520 Watts.

I have a BS and MS in electrical engineering, so I kind of know what I'm talking about regarding electrical things.

[Spanky]

your the best man, and thanks for clearly showing it does add up.

rotNdude の投稿を引用：

I have a BS and MS in electrical engineering, so I kind of know what I'm talking about regarding electrical things.

What do you think I should do for power supply? I want to overclock later, and I wish to just get the power right first. the rest that use OC like memory, GPU etc. I can get later when it all goes out of warranty support. I wouldn't want to buy OC high speed memory, or ANY OC parts before it's out of support. I can get a cpu cooler later for OC. I feel that a 6 core cpu is a little to much, as 4 would be cheeper and less of a risk when OC later. right?

[ugafan]

pretty much everyone has said the same thing. the power supply is overkill and the 6 core is better than the 4 core. but who cares what everyone else thinks, it's your money. get whatever you want.

[Big Boom Boom]

Ryzen doesn't have iGPU, you need a GPU, any GPU, for it to work.

The APU is the one with iGPU.

[Spanky]

ugafan の投稿を引用：

pretty much everyone has said the same thing. the power supply is overkill and the 6 core is better than the 4 core. but who cares what everyone else thinks, it's your money. get whatever you want.

You guys crack me up. You suggest for me to use High speed memory that is used for OC and void warranty on the use of OC, but will only really benefit me if I OC everything else. And you also suggest a 1600 cpu for $50 more that is 3GHz to do a lot more work then the 1500x that is at least 4GHz OC...