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So, you come here to ask for help as you don't know about the system you are trying to build,pretty much everyone in over 100 posts tells you the same thing, yet you choose to believe you know best and we are all wrong and you wonder why people think you are trolling?
The motherboards capabilities are average at best, it's just a generic cheap board I wouldn't build anything beyond a cheap low end budget system on, it has no standout or good features, though the single usb c is a nice inclusion I guess as some people seem to love that, personally I would prefer more usb 3.1 connections as 5 is kind of limiting.
Know that buying a 4GB 580 will bite you in the butt in the future, 4GB isn't really enough any more, not when you are buying new.
Unless you have some need for the added cores from a ryzen 1700 such as editing, you are better off with a 1600 to save some money and get a better GPU, for pure gaming, the Intel line up is better.
Ryzen needs fast RAM to work at its best, most ryzen chips and motherboards won't actually run beyond 2933MHz, however going for 3000MHz RAM and setting the xmp profile to it or manually is very much advised, this won't cause any issues.
ALL DDR4 ram beyond 2133MHz IS overclocked, that is the standard, but it very heavily binned and 100% safe to run upto it's rating, however you need to set the profile your self or it will only run at 2133.
Your storage options are a bit lackluster, for a HDD I would go with WD , they are simply more reliable, blue for budget, black for performance, as for an SSD, Samsung is king pretty much, though the new crucial something 500, the replacement for the 300 line is now very close.
You seem to be specing alot of very expensive, but slightly lackluster thermaltake rgb fans, personally I'd avoid thermaltake.
You do not need windows 10 pro, that is for business linking alot of systems up, save your money, hell, download windows 10 media creation tool directly from Microsoft for free, them get an OEM key online if you want access to the store etc for 1/5th or less of the price, you only need the home edition, you won't use the features from pro.
Your selected GPU WiLL NOT run 4k well, you will either need to drop the resolution down, or need to lower all the settings to get a playable frame rate, dropping the Res gets rid of the point of 4k, lowering the settings will look worse than a 1080p monitor at higher settings.
The rx580 is not powerful enough, and 4GB of Vram is not enough to push 4k.
The PSU is more powerful than you'll ever need and as such more expensive than needed, money you could put into other areas, infact that seems to be a common theme.
If you are going for an AMD GPU, make sure the monitor is freesync compatible, it doesn't cost any extra and will help to reduce screen tearing and is the one advantage of AMD over nvidia as gsync carries a 100 bucks premium over freesync.
Now, chances are you will disregard all of this and I am once more wasting my time, but I hope you aren't actually trolling and you take on board the information given by people here, it will save you money in the long run and help you build a better system.
Mass Effect Andromeda
Assassins Creed Origin
Ghost Recon Wildlands
Players Unknown Battleground
Witcher 3
Total War: Warhammer II
Sniper Ghost Warrior 3
Call of Duty Infinit Warfare
Homefront: The Revolution
There plenty games that recommend at least a GTX 1070 8GB for 1080p and Ghost Recon Wildlands in ultra settings merely gets 70-80 FPS in 1080p with a GTX 1080 Ti and thats not because of bad optimization. Many games already use up more then $GB VRAM in 1080p so going for a RX 580 4GB or GTX 1060 3GB is shooting yourself in your leg. You have then a card that as the strenght to run 1080p at high-ultra but misses the RAM to do this fluently which means you often have to live with micro freezes or fps drops in exchange since the VRAM got flooded.
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What Advantage has Windows 10 Pro over Windows 10 Home?
1. You can use a maximum of 512GB RAM instead of 128GB RAM (there is no consumer motherboard that supports more then 128GB RAM. Not even Workstation Motherboards just Server Motherboards).
2. You have Network Administration tools that helps to easier manage larger LAN networks. WHich is intresting if you have to administrate 50+ PC's in the same system. (Most ppl dont even have a 2nd PC they need to administrate through their first).
3. You get updates a few days befor the Home users if the Home users dont force to update manually.
So all in all you paying premium for features you proberly cant or wont ever use.
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With the WD HDD I goign to disagree slightly not entirely. WD Blue is good for budget if you use the 1TB evrsion. The 2TB version is a slower rebranded Green. However I personally would not go for a Black anymore. The WD Gold is superior in every way while offering better support and warranty and support for RAID while mostly even being cheaper then the WD Black. No reason to not take a better HDD for lower cost.
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Freesync does not help against the screen tearing directly which is vsync's job but against the stuttering from to low FPS while also lowering the input lag.
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One note to the motherboard:
The motherboard you have chosen is really just generic and I still think that AsRock even thos they parted from being Asus Budget Sidecompany are terrible. At least compared to the other brands or the high end boards in whichc ase you could go with Asus in the first place or take the high end Aorus Boards.
I for a fact have a 600€ Motherboard (well doesnt cost 600€ anymore). It was worth it for me as moeny is no issue but if I wouldnt be an enthusiast or would have to think economily a waste. Ind the end a MoBo is just a Mobo. All the features the Gaming 9 for Overclocking or other stuff I also had on the 120€ Gaming K5. In my secondry PC which has a 500€ Motherboard (Gaming 8) has an improvenment of the K5 for having a better Soundcard. It has a build in Soundblaster ZxR. Then it has a VRM Waterblock mounted, LED rear I/O shield, little more RGB lightning and 2 LAN Ports. Despite the Soundcard a very questional advantage for 380€ (nearly 5 times as much) extra cost.
The 100€ more expensive Gaming 9 now features as improvement, 6 more LED's Wifi and Bluetooth, a door shield, a copper EK VRM waterblock and support for extreme LN2 OC incl. measure points to measure the exact voltage of different parts. Well IMO it is justfied to be that more expensive but the use for the normal users is 0. The normal users doesnt watercool the VRM nor do they measure voltage on the motherboard with hardware nor would they pay 100€ for a door shield. The wifi/bluetooth can be helpfull but nothing that justifies the cost as a 10$ Wifi dongle does the same.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1302014619
Cinematic 30 FPS
i was interested in what people thought about the build i want. i was wanting people who had experiance with the parts to reply back with some tips or cool things they noticed. but all i got back was a smirk and jokes with a bunch of drama and satires. not in least interested how i do not need a part or whether the part has to be to much for your build requirements. but hey, thanks for the ideas and soon I'll have what i want for a build but not from those that suggest what i don't need. like no warraty or oc. I've been trying to tell all the things i would need it for and what i do think i need and I'm not being heard. i not assumbling this the edge of new and wastefull parts that will not go out of date for 15 years plus.
sorry to here your not getting what you expect from a game with your hardware. try to stay on topic.
You dont need to be smart to know that playing on such a PC is a waste and will not be satifying. However you could spend the same budget on a 60$ mobo, 500$ GPU, 200$ CPU, 100$ RAM, 40$ HDD and 100$ PSU. That will be way stronger by taking cheaper parts and diverting the money to the components that get the performance.
Also if somebody offers you an old slow car for 1000$ or a Ferrari for 1000$, what would you pick? There is no reason not to take quality parts for cheaper price.
The ppl ehre commenting know what the quality parts are and what parts have poor quality, also they know prices and how to balance up a system or get more performance out of a budget.
But like Monk said, when you dont care for a real opinion and just want to hear that all is fine tho it is not, then why do you ask in the first place?
=> In the End it is your money and you're free to buy what you want with it. You also are allowed to "Misspend" moeny on stauff everybody advice against. Thats all up to you as the outcome will be.
lol. i think you have it backwards. you got lots of suggestions, but ignored much of what we told you.
We have all read what you need and want, you do not know how things work or what is needed, hence you asked, we gave advice based on years of experience, study and qualification's.
We even went into detail multiple times to explain why we are suggesting changes and how things actually work along with why some of the things you believe are not actually true.
We gain nothing from trying to help you, we just don't want to see someone waste money and have future issues that can easily be avoided while helping you to have a better system and experience for the same or less money in many cases.
To this, you seem to reply either in ignorance or comedically bad levels of trolling telling us we are wrong or you don't believe us.
The only reason we are still all trying to help you over 150 posts in when most of these type of posts are sorted in 20, is we don't want someone who simply doesn't know better wasting their money and having huge issues, in the hope you aren't just stringing us all along we keep trying to offer help.
It doesn't benefit us at all to try and help you, it takes our time and effort for just that reason, we want to help.
I’ll keep updating this OP as parts come in only I would like to know if anyone thinks I should benchmark my (what to call it...) “Mercy Versa Standard PC?”
Drives, kingston is okay, but why not a samsung 850 evo m.2 with 250gb or a crucial mx300 with 275gb?
And Firecuda uhm, the hybrid feature is not rly noticable in games. (if it's for games)
So maybe a wd black or gold instead?
CPU Cooler, well a decent air cooler like the noctua d14, dark rock pro or h7 will work fine enough, even for oc. The aio is more or less a gimmick, If u wanna do water, buy a ekwb kit.
Case Fan, well I would grab a pack noctua or silent wings. But if christmas lights are your thing, go for it.
Ram, since you go with ryzen, you could go with 3200 or more.
3000 are okay, but ryzen likes to have more. And 2x16gb, only if you do some srsly rendering or so. For gaming, 2x8gb enough.
32gb will not turn the pc into a rocket.
Kingston predator 2x8gb 3600mhz ~ 255 or corsair lpx ~$4 cheaper.
Sidenote, you could also use pcpartpicker.com and just share the link to your rig, maybe easier instead of wrtting down all the parts.