What Monitor should i get ?

[Mikasa Ackerman]

my 2nd Monitor recently started having some issues with the lighting ( the bottom left corner often goes very dark ) and i thought about getting a new Monitor so it wont matter if that one breaks ( and until it breaks ill have 3 monitors ) , now i often heard how great high refresh rate monitors are , so i thought about getting a Full HD or 1440p 120-144hz Monitor

my 4k gsync monitor will stay my main monitor , but i will probably use the other one for Multiplayer Games , now my question , is it even worth it to get a 1440p one if its only for a few games ? i wa hppy with the 1080p one aswell ( was my porevious main monitor for years)

also is 21:9 1080p worth getting ? i bet that would be great aswell ( but i never used a 21:9 Monitor except 1 time at a store where i played Minecraft on it , was a BIG difference )

so my 2 Questions , 1080 or 1440p ?
and 144hz or a wider Ratio ( or both )

space is no issue i got a large desk

[EliteGamer]

Escrito originalmente por Andrea-Chan:

Escrito originalmente por EliteGamer:

Not true at all. I've only ever seen you say 60 -100 is very noticeable.

If you can't see a difference from 120 fps and 144hz, than you have eyesight problems.

I can see a difference from 30 fps to 60 fps (huge) 60 fps to 100 fps (very small) 60 fps to 120 fps (big) 120 fps to 144 fps (a difference) 144hz to 180hz (small but noticeable) Most people can see the diffrence between 100hz and 144hz. Like I said, if you can't, then you need to get your eyes tested.


Also I don't read reviews anyways since alot of them are biased. Every system and setup performs different. Some hardware gel better than others. It's all about the silicon lottery.

You say 1440p 144+ are the best, but what's the point if you can't get more than 100 fps at ultra settings with AA cranked up? 1440p isn't like 4K where you can have AA turned off, 1440p looks nasty without AA. Also 1080p TN high refresh rate monitors are still the preferred monitors pros use at tournaments. A 1080p 144hz+ would be better suited for high refresh rate gameplay if you want to keep a solid 144+ at ultra. It's just seems a waste of money buying a £700 1440p 165hz monitor to get 80 - 100 fps lol.

1440p doesn't look much better than 1080p. The difference between 1080p and 1440p is alot smaller than it is with 1440p and 2160p. 4K looks way better than 1080p, but 1440p doesn't. I should know, I use 1080p, 1440p and 4K monitors all the time.

I've got a GTX 1080 Ti and game at 4K ultra and I only turn AA off on recent games and still get over 100 fps at 4K ultra on alot of games, some new games like PC2 4K ultra settings no AA 150 fps..... I've got proof of this and videos. Stop saying you have to turn settings down to the point it looks worse than a lower resolution. I play all my games on ultra. Even games set to high will look much better than 1440p as long as it's not the texture graphic option turned down. If the texture option is maxed, then it doesn't matter about most of the other pointless options, even if they're on low the 4K picture will still much better than the 1440p picture...... and especially if the game doesn't have that many graphic options. You clearly sound like you don't like 4K and just talking complete BS about it.

thanks for the detailed coment , i will probbly get a 1080p 144hz Monitor once i can afford it , my 2ndary Monitor will last a few more months hopefully , and btw today i played TF2 in 1080p and it was the same as 4k mostly ( on my 4k monitor) , no real graphical difference , i bet League of Legends is the same , but higher refresh rate will be a major bonus

i am just unsure about gsync yes or no , but since my old Monitor was fine without gsync for 5 years , i guess a 2nd Monitor doesnt need Gsync even if its used for gaming

Well, TF2 and League of Legends aren't exactly games for 4K., seriously do they even have an option to set to 4K??? They're really old games.That's like watching a DVD on a 4K monitor. A DVD doesn't look much better on a 4K monitor than it does on a 1080p monitor because the source material is still in low definition. It's mostly modern games that benefit the 4K beauty treatment.

No not really. High refresh rates only benefit shooters.

If you only play shooters = 144+
If you play all types of games and pretty games = 4K

However, it's still best to have both since the ultimate 4K 144hz HDR monitor isn't here yet. If money is extremally tight, Just get a cheap 1080p 144hz monitor with no G-SYNC for shooting games and use 4K for 90% for the rest like GTA 5, Tomb Raider etc...

[Mikasa Ackerman]

Escrito originalmente por EliteGamer:

Escrito originalmente por Andrea-Chan:

thanks for the detailed coment , i will probbly get a 1080p 144hz Monitor once i can afford it , my 2ndary Monitor will last a few more months hopefully , and btw today i played TF2 in 1080p and it was the same as 4k mostly ( on my 4k monitor) , no real graphical difference , i bet League of Legends is the same , but higher refresh rate will be a major bonus

i am just unsure about gsync yes or no , but since my old Monitor was fine without gsync for 5 years , i guess a 2nd Monitor doesnt need Gsync even if its used for gaming

Well, TF2 and League of Legends aren't exactly games for 4K., seriously do they even have an option to set to 4K??? They're really old games.That's like watching a DVD on a 4K monitor. A DVD doesn't look much better on a 4K monitor than it does on a 1080p monitor because the source material is still in low definition. It's mostly modern games that benefit the 4K beauty treatment.

No not really. High refresh rates only benefit shooters.

If you only play shooters = 144+
If you play all types of games and pretty games = 4K

However, it's still best to have both since the ultimate 4K 144hz HDR monitor isn't here yet. If money is extremally tight, Just get a cheap 1080p 144hz monitor with no G-SYNC for shooting games and use 4K for 90% for the rest like GTA 5, Tomb Raider etc...

yes , tf2 can be played at 4k and league atleast supports the format ( but it has no 4k textures , i run league at over 100-200 FPS in 4k max )


thanks again , i will get a 144hz Monitor , im sure its going to be great for R6 siege ( which doesnt run well imn 4k anyway ) and TF2

[EliteGamer]

Escrito originalmente por Monk:

Looking at your games list rotr the most challenging game you have, that's hardly much of a benchmark to go off of, racing games are incredibly easy to run as are corridor shooters.

Try a large open world modern game like pubg,division, wildlands, the new assassin's creed etc and see how they cope maxed at 4k.

I have always had the same view on refresh rates, the faster you go the harder it is to notice an improvement over the previous 'step'.

In many new actually demanding games 4k isn't really viable at max settings even on a 1080ti.

What? GTA 5 is open world and still brings any GPU to her knees... RE7, PC2, COD IW, Street Fighter V, Metro 2033 Redux, Dying Light, Batman AK etc.... I also have wildlands on my Origin account and Crysis 3 which to this day still requires an insane GPU to run max. Don't tell me I don't have any demanding games pal.

[Monk]

Not on your steam list you don't.
High FPS helps any game in that the fluidity of animations is better, it's not just about the fraction of a second advantage you can get in a shooter.
GtaV isn't that hard to max these days, re7 is easy same for cod, beaten ups and racing games.
Dying light, metro and crysis are old and not all that challenging for a modern GPU either.

There is no way you are running g wildlands at 100fps max at 4k, hell, I doubt you are at 60 all the time.

So, yeah, from your steam list, you don't have many demanding games, sorry.

[EliteGamer]

No it doesn't., only shooters. I've got both. Do you have both or you just a one sided fanboy???? Exactly.

https://www.compsmag.com/the-most-graphically-demanding-pc-games/

You say GTA 5 isn't hard to run?? Well it's listed still on the 2018 PC demanding chart as top 10 demanding PC games.... Funny, none of those games you listed where on it. Guess what number 1 is: Crysis!!! An old game still more demanding than wildlands.

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-most-demanding-pc-games-right-now/ - Crysis

Did you say racing games aren't demanding? PC2 isn't demanding? Wrong again. Look here:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2840251/software-games/10-gorgeous-graphics-intensive-games-that-will-utterly-punish-your-pc.html#slide3

I also have Forza 7 which is on that list and also Horizon 3.


https://www.pcworld.com/article/2840251/software-games/10-gorgeous-graphics-intensive-games-that-will-utterly-punish-your-pc.html#slide12 - Crysis 3 listed on demanding list

Try running Crysis 3 at 4K with advance graphics all max and come back and tell me that game isn't challenging for a modern GPU.

[Mikasa Ackerman]

Escrito originalmente por EliteGamer:

No it doesn't., only shooters. I've got both. Do you have both or you just a one sided fanboy???? Exactly.

https://www.compsmag.com/the-most-graphically-demanding-pc-games/

You say GTA 5 isn't hard to run?? Well it's listed still on the 2018 PC demanding chart as top 10 demanding PC games.... Funny, none of those games you listed where on it. Guess what number 1 is: Crysis!!! An old game still more demanding than wildlands.

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-most-demanding-pc-games-right-now/ - Crysis

Did you say racing games aren't demanding? PC2 isn't demanding? Wrong again. Look here:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2840251/software-games/10-gorgeous-graphics-intensive-games-that-will-utterly-punish-your-pc.html#slide3

I also have Forza 7 which is on that list and also Horizon 3.


https://www.pcworld.com/article/2840251/software-games/10-gorgeous-graphics-intensive-games-that-will-utterly-punish-your-pc.html#slide12 - Crysis 3 listed on demanding list

Try running Crysis 3 at 4K with advance graphics all max and AA on and come back and tell me that game isn't challenging for a modern GPU.

GTA V is only demanding in 4k at max settings

[Monk]

I hate to break it to you, but I have a 4k screen also.

wildlands is far more challenging than anything on that list.

No those racing games are not that demanding.

Hell, the pc world lists bf1 and destiny 2, 2 of the easiest to run games out as they are actually really well optimised.
The pc gamer list is from 2016, I could max crisis when it was new let alone on 1080ti's.

The compsmag list is frankly a joke.

The few challenging games on any of those lists you couldn't run at 4k without turning things down and maintain 60, so I don't get quite what they are meant to show, given that I didn't see that you had Deus ex etc

[EliteGamer]

Escrito originalmente por Monk:

I hate to break it to you, but I have a 4k screen also.

wildlands is far more challenging than anything on that list.

No those racing games are not that demanding.

Sorry, I don't care about your "opinion". I only care about facts. Those games are demanding fact and those sites back what I say fact.

I have Wildlands and it's not challenging at all. Doesn't even get my PC warm. Sorry you find that hard to run at 1440p. I was talking running games at 4K, oh well.

I believe those multiple sites over your "opinion". Bye

Actually

Escrito originalmente por Andrea-Chan:

Escrito originalmente por EliteGamer:

No it doesn't., only shooters. I've got both. Do you have both or you just a one sided fanboy???? Exactly.

https://www.compsmag.com/the-most-graphically-demanding-pc-games/

You say GTA 5 isn't hard to run?? Well it's listed still on the 2018 PC demanding chart as top 10 demanding PC games.... Funny, none of those games you listed where on it. Guess what number 1 is: Crysis!!! An old game still more demanding than wildlands.

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-most-demanding-pc-games-right-now/ - Crysis

Did you say racing games aren't demanding? PC2 isn't demanding? Wrong again. Look here:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2840251/software-games/10-gorgeous-graphics-intensive-games-that-will-utterly-punish-your-pc.html#slide3

I also have Forza 7 which is on that list and also Horizon 3.


https://www.pcworld.com/article/2840251/software-games/10-gorgeous-graphics-intensive-games-that-will-utterly-punish-your-pc.html#slide12 - Crysis 3 listed on demanding list

Try running Crysis 3 at 4K with advance graphics all max and AA on and come back and tell me that game isn't challenging for a modern GPU.

GTA V is only demanding in 4k at max settings

Actually GTA 5 is demanding at 1080p if you turn all settings on like "frame scaling setting" and AA to max. You're looking at 20- 30 fps with a GTX 1080 Ti at 1080p. GTA 5 still cannot be fully maxed out.

[Monk]

I get like 120 on GtaV maxed at 1440p.

Wildlands maxed is one of the most demanding games out, if you can. Run it at 60 FPS on a true Max, at 4k well, I'd love to see how lol.

[EliteGamer]

You're not playing GTA 5 at true max with 120 fps at 1440p. Turn Frame scaling on in the advance settings and everything to max. 120 fps at1440p LOL.

No it's not supersampling or is it 400%. it's a setting in the game GTA 5. It's part of the settings, so for fully max out, that needs to be on. You made out GTA 5 wasn't demanding and I proved you wrong and it is very demanding, still top 10 demanding list in 2018. Wildlands isn't even on the list LOL.

Also for PC2, look on the store page at the System Requirements, GTX 1080, 16 GB ram, i7 6700k and look at games you think are demanding like The Division, System Requirements, Intel Core i7-3770 | AMD FX-8350, 8 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 | AMD Radeon R9 290....... Even a crap GPU can run that game lol.

I noticed you never even bothered to test GTA 5 because you know what I said was right. You're nothing but a troll talking crap. Even when you been proved wrong, you're still in denial.

Also, I don't believe you have 2 GTX 1080 Ti's either. If you even had one GTX 1080 Ti, you would know that 4K ultra 60 fps is easy to achieve with no need to lower settings apart from AA which isn't needed on a high PPI 4K monitor... 2 GTX 1080 Ti's would get over 100 fps in almost every game, but you would know this if you did have them.

[Monk]

You mean frame scaling as in supersampling ... As in you are no longer at the resoloution but much higher so would no longer technically be 1440p ... Where 400% at 1080p is actually 4k.

I have guests staying tonight so can't check it now, but I will see what affect it has tomorrow evening out of interest.