Vega 64 or GTX 1080?
Hi guys I just got the Acer KG271B and its a 240hz freesync monitor should I get a Gtx 1080 or Vega 64 for my gpu if I want my games to look smooth as butter with no tearing?
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Pasta; 3.2.2018 klo 2.00
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Vega is an early access hardware, it performs better than 1080 only in Doom, Wolfenstein and few dx 12 titles, everything other about this card is pretty much worse than 1080. Don't forget it eats two times more power than 1080. Air cooling versions requires 750W PSU and water cooled Vega needs a 1000W. I would go for 1080.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on PATENT; 5.2.2018 klo 3.27
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Vega is an early access hardware, it performs better than 1080 only in Doom, Wolfenstein and few dx 12 titles, everything other about this card is pretty much worse than 1080. Don't forget it eats two times more power than 1080. Air cooling versions requires 750W PSU and water cooled Vega needs a 1000W. I would go for 1080.

undervolt the card and it starts drawing power more like a 1070, amd has a habbit of overvolting the hell out of gpus for some reason, I dont think anyone who ever undervolted said there was an issue with their cards going any lower.

as for the gpu, the 56 at msrp preformed close if not better then a 1080 once undervolted, as it allowed the card to stay cooler and clock higher as a result.

right now, all gpus are too overpriced to really consider.

farcry 5 however will be a game to see what amd gpus can do going forward. the primitive shader should be an api function so regardless if amd makes the primitive shader for all a thing, it will be working there, along with some other things like half precision for effects. the game is going to be a showcase for what amd can do, and potentially how games will be made going forward (if all effects use half precision, this would effectively double the gpus power. how much can be brought over to half precision is something I don't know, but I do know that path tracing, the holy grail of lighting effects, is more than capable of being done in half precision.
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water cooled Vega needs a 1000W. I would go for 1080.

How come a 350W GPU needs a 1000W PSU? Way to pull numbers out of thin air.
Well vega64 doesn't need a 1000w PSU, it's power hungry sure, but it's not that bad lol, I have one and used it while I built up my new rig, it's really not to bad, hell, if you don't mind the noise, even the stock cooler is actually really quite effective.

Given you have a freesync monitor, I'd go with an aib vega64, it's a good card, the fact I got one of about 12 discounted first cards for only 450 made it even better hehe.
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water cooled Vega needs a 1000W. I would go for 1080.

How come a 350W GPU needs a 1000W PSU? Way to pull numbers out of thin air.

its on the box for vega, keep in mind there are alot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ psus, I had one that wasnt even 250 watt 2 builds ago but it marekted itself as 550 watt due to the 5 volt rail haveing 400 watts on its own and the 3 volt haveing 200 watts, with the 12 volt a measily 250.

most people will know how much their psu says, not how much their psu can actually deliver, so they inflate the required number.
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How come a 350W GPU needs a 1000W PSU? Way to pull numbers out of thin air.

its on the box for vega, keep in mind there are alot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ psus, I had one that wasnt even 250 watt 2 builds ago but it marekted itself as 550 watt due to the 5 volt rail haveing 400 watts on its own and the 3 volt haveing 200 watts, with the 12 volt a measily 250.

most people will know how much their psu says, not how much their psu can actually deliver, so they inflate the required number.

You haven't known what you've been building up until a recent time if you used a JUNK PSU just 2 builds ago.

A SOLID 750W PSU will run any Vega just fine...

I agree with Monk, Vega is a decent card.
infact - heres the requirements on the vega64 box i just happen to have lying around - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1292370646
as you can see it only says you need a 750w, and thats at stated draw, at actual, you could probably safely run it on a 500-650w even overclocked

and purely to annoy those who cant find a gpu for sale here it is next to my main rig waiting for me to build it into something, either my mums pc or my htpc lol (sorry)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1292371088
I'd buy that from you if I lived in the UK, I'm after a Freesync 10-bit 4096x2160 32 incher, but can't find a Vega for a decent price. :P
ive had a fair few offers lol, but its not for sale, going in my mums mining rig or into my htpc update, just need to get round to it.
plus, at £450 it was quite the bargain.
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its on the box for vega, keep in mind there are alot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ psus, I had one that wasnt even 250 watt 2 builds ago but it marekted itself as 550 watt due to the 5 volt rail haveing 400 watts on its own and the 3 volt haveing 200 watts, with the 12 volt a measily 250.

most people will know how much their psu says, not how much their psu can actually deliver, so they inflate the required number.

You haven't known what you've been building up until a recent time if you used a JUNK PSU just 2 builds ago.

A SOLID 750W PSU will run any Vega just fine...

I agree with Monk, Vega is a decent card.

didnt have hardware to test when my old pentium 4 build died so had to take it to a shop to know what was wrong

turns out motherboard died/was on its last legs, I had thought it was a psu problem and when I got the psu for my little brothers computer and my comptuer still wouldnt work, that was take it to a shop time.

they sold me a phenom II 955 and a good motherboard with it for slightly above msrp, so I never thought to look at the psu they also put in it.

around a year later the psu blew the ♥♥♥♥ up and I had to get a new one on short notice, so it was a 700 watt corsair gaming one (Wanted a 750 watt gold they had there last time, but they got rid of all their non gaming branded psus because when a moron sees gaming and not gaining, they choose the led lit gaming atrocity) so when I had the computer, thankfully nothing damaged, back up and running, I looked into the psu they sold me closer. I already saw something was wrong when I saw the watts on everything, that was on the left side of the psu, what I have come to know as a hallmark of a ♥♥♥♥ psu because it makes it so much harder to see what the psu is in most builds.

so I find out they put a 20$ psu in my computer, woefully underpowered, and sold it to me for 100$, and because the rest of the parts were sold near msrp, I didn't bat an eye. I want to say this was nearing on 10 years ago now.

now that I think of it, for me it was personal computer number 3 of the 4 I had, the other build was for my little brother... I keep hardware till its functionally useless to me

I want to say prior to ♥♥♥♥ blowing up, I knew a bit about psus and had I seen the label I would have questioned it more, it was after this that I got my list of people to but psus from and only from. seasonic and superflower, corsior is a good second choice if you know who oemed what, but if you dont they aren't worth it.
SeaSonic might be on one of my first choices, but Super Flower would come after some Corsairs like my AX1500i. The Flextronics units are excellent.

Again, it was bit of your fault for buying into their crap. If you did you research on PSUs before building up a rig, you wouldn't have bought a PSU that exploded.
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I want to say prior to ♥♥♥♥ blowing up, I knew a bit about psus and had I seen the label I would have questioned it more, it was after this that I got my list of people to but psus from and only from. seasonic and superflower, corsior is a good second choice if you know who oemed what, but if you dont they aren't worth it.

It's easier now, with Internet Word of Mouth and Tier Lists everywhere. I usually use Corsair AXi Platinum, since SeaSonics and Superflower aren't always available locally and at competitive prices.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Arya; 5.2.2018 klo 5.35
If you have Freesync just get the Vega 64. While it's not quite what everyone expected, it's still a decent card.

It may even get longer official support since it came out later and AMD usually supports their cards for much longer.
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I want to say prior to ♥♥♥♥ blowing up, I knew a bit about psus and had I seen the label I would have questioned it more, it was after this that I got my list of people to but psus from and only from. seasonic and superflower, corsior is a good second choice if you know who oemed what, but if you dont they aren't worth it.

It's easier now, with Internet Word of Mouth and Tier Lists everywhere. I usually use Corsair AXi Platinum, since SeaSonics and Superflower aren't always available locally and at competitive prices.

If I seen the right psu, I would just be getting seasonic or superflower at that point, even at an inflated price it would still be a better overall deal then that sku

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If you have Freesync just get the Vega 64. While it's not quite what everyone expected, it's still a decent card.

It may even get longer official support since it came out later and AMD usually supports their cards for much longer.

Wait till after farcry 5 to decide, if amd does not alleviate a bottleneck, the 56 and 64 are basically the same performance wise, if amd can alleviate it then you will see what the difference is and can make a better choice.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on rotNdude; 6.2.2018 klo 7.22
“For us, mining is a very dodgy topic,” Triolet says. “We could go all-in and just advertise all our products as good for mining, but at the same time there is a situation with mining that is pushing GPU prices up, and causing some availability issues on some markets. To be realistic, we cannot do anything about that right now.“

“The way to go at this point is to try to explain to end users how they can also get the benefits of mining,” Triolet says, “because if you should get a high-end desktop with a high-end GPU today and you’re not mining, you’re kind of wasting money. If they are just sitting there doing nothing, why not make some nice profit?”

We can’t do anything? Pfft what’s Dodgy is AMD not the topic of mining.

This compared with Nvidia at least advising retailers sell to gamers, I’m left patting myself on the back for converting years ago. I’d be hard pressed to keep any AMD parts on my list after seeing how I’m spoken of as a consumer. Pc gaming is just another “market” to them.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Vince ✟; 5.2.2018 klo 22.51
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