i7 4790k still relevant?

[rezo]

I currently have an i5 4690k at 4.7GHz and it runs well but Im guessing if I upgrade my R9 280X to a new volta GPU it'll be a bottleneck so if I buy a i7 4790k would it be good? Or would I be better off buying an 8th gen or even 9th gen when that gets released (Although id have to buy a new mobo and ram and thats very expensive)

Specs on profile if needed

[rezo]

Im planning on buying the GTX XX70 of the volta generation so should I get the i7 or stick with my i5 4690k

[Monk]

Given that a 4790k sells for nearly as much as a 8600k, I wouldn't do it myself, but, I guess you will save in ram and motherboard, on the other side, you could then sell your kit to offset the cost.

The thing is, depending on what Res you plan to play at, the 4790k WILL hold back a new GPU, especially the next gen ones, when ever they decide to show up, my 4790k was holding back my 1080ti's, it wasn't a huge issue, but it was there at 1440p I gained between 10-20fps in most games when I upgraded to my 7900x.

Now, it wasn't a huge gains, the increase is down to a mix of faster ram (3200 Vs 2133), full 16x pcie lanes for each card, and general IPC improvements from generational improvements, the biggest impact was shown on firestrike with my cards increasing the GPU score by nearly 10k points, showing the older chip was definitely holding them back.

Now, mine is an extreme example, and really, the cost is not worth the gains in anyone's eyes (including mine), but felt I needed to point out their are gains to be had going to a newer chip, those changes will be more evidenced the lower Res you play at, and less so the higher until gpu's stop being the weak point for 4k+

[DOOMed]

rezo původně napsal:

I currently have an i5 4690k at 4.7GHz and it runs well but Im guessing if I upgrade my R9 280X to a new volta GPU it'll be a bottleneck so if I buy a i7 4790k would it be good? Or would I be better off buying an 8th gen or even 9th gen when that gets released (Although id have to buy a new mobo and ram and thats very expensive)

Specs on profile if needed

Serious? For that price you could pick up a low end threadripper...

https://www.ebuyer.com/801387-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1920x-12-core-tr4-processor-yd192xa8aewof

[Monk]

Ash Williams původně napsal:

rezo původně napsal:

I currently have an i5 4690k at 4.7GHz and it runs well but Im guessing if I upgrade my R9 280X to a new volta GPU it'll be a bottleneck so if I buy a i7 4790k would it be good? Or would I be better off buying an 8th gen or even 9th gen when that gets released (Although id have to buy a new mobo and ram and thats very expensive)

Specs on profile if needed

Serious? For that price you could pick up a low end threadripper...

https://www.ebuyer.com/801387-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1920x-12-core-tr4-processor-yd192xa8aewof

Err what are you on about? How is a £600 CPU, a £300 motherboard and £2-400 on ram even comparable in price to a £200 CPU swap?, Hell even if he goes to a new 8tg gen it's still hundreds cheaper.

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Monk původně napsal:

Ash Williams původně napsal:

Serious? For that price you could pick up a low end threadripper...

https://www.ebuyer.com/801387-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1920x-12-core-tr4-processor-yd192xa8aewof

Err what are you on about? How is a £600 CPU, a £300 motherboard and £2-400 on ram even comparable in price to a £200 CPU swap?, Hell even if he goes to a new 8tg gen it's still hundreds cheaper.

£200 CPU swap?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-4790K-Haswell-Refresh-Processor/dp/B00KPRWAX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517685636&sr=8-1&keywords=i7+4790k

[rezo]

Ash Williams původně napsal:

rezo původně napsal:

I currently have an i5 4690k at 4.7GHz and it runs well but Im guessing if I upgrade my R9 280X to a new volta GPU it'll be a bottleneck so if I buy a i7 4790k would it be good? Or would I be better off buying an 8th gen or even 9th gen when that gets released (Although id have to buy a new mobo and ram and thats very expensive)

Specs on profile if needed

Serious? For that price you could pick up a low end threadripper...

https://www.ebuyer.com/801387-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1920x-12-core-tr4-processor-yd192xa8aewof

Why would I want a threadripper? They're not good for gaming and cost far more than what I intend on spending. The CPU alone is 600 pounds, let alone buying a new motherboard and more ram so I'm not sure what you mean by its the same price.

[DOOMed]

rezo původně napsal:

Ash Williams původně napsal:

Serious? For that price you could pick up a low end threadripper...

https://www.ebuyer.com/801387-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1920x-12-core-tr4-processor-yd192xa8aewof

Why would I want a threadripper? They're not good for gaming and cost far more than what I intend on spending. The CPU alone is 600 pounds, let alone buying a new motherboard and more ram so I'm not sure what you mean by its the same price.

the CPU is a similar price. the 4790K is nearly 4 years old. If you're going to buy, then buy new architecture...

[shiel]

Ash Williams původně napsal:

rezo původně napsal:

Why would I want a threadripper? They're not good for gaming and cost far more than what I intend on spending. The CPU alone is 600 pounds, let alone buying a new motherboard and more ram so I'm not sure what you mean by its the same price.

the CPU is a similar price. the 4790K is nearly 4 years old. If you're going to buy, then buy new architecture...

Completely depends on where you buy it. Can get a used one for cheap.

[MarioTwins]

I paid 230 Canadian for my 4790k
Yea it was used. But there out there

[DOOMed]

shiel původně napsal:

Ash Williams původně napsal:

the CPU is a similar price. the 4790K is nearly 4 years old. If you're going to buy, then buy new architecture...

Completely depends on where you buy it. Can get a used one for cheap.

Yeah a 4 year old used, possibly abused chip. Thanks but no thanks.

[Wakobi Junior]

MarioTwins původně napsal:

I paid 230 Canadian for my 4790k
Yea it was used. But there out there

Exactly, go on Kijiji or something. I luckily found a brand new Z90 mObo That was compatible with the i7 4790k

[DOOMed]

Ugnak původně napsal:

MarioTwins původně napsal:

I paid 230 Canadian for my 4790k
Yea it was used. But there out there

Exactly, go on Kijiji or something. I luckily found a brand new Z90 mObo That was compatible with the i7 4790k

Yeah a 4 year old used, possibly abused chip. Thanks but no thanks.

[Monk]

No one would suggest buying one new, and a threadripper would be a really bad choice anyway at that sort of price, the whole point of the CPU swap was / is for the op to save money.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

rezo původně napsal:

Im planning on buying the GTX XX70 of the volta generation so should I get the i7 or stick with my i5 4690k

Stick with what you have IMO.

Ash Williams původně napsal:

rezo původně napsal:

I currently have an i5 4690k at 4.7GHz and it runs well but Im guessing if I upgrade my R9 280X to a new volta GPU it'll be a bottleneck so if I buy a i7 4790k would it be good? Or would I be better off buying an 8th gen or even 9th gen when that gets released (Although id have to buy a new mobo and ram and thats very expensive)

Specs on profile if needed

Serious? For that price you could pick up a low end threadripper...

https://www.ebuyer.com/801387-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1920x-12-core-tr4-processor-yd192xa8aewof

Why? That makes no sense at all to get something like that, and you also have to get a cooler, motherboard, with RAM as well... £600 + £50↑ + £250↑ + £170↑ = £1070↑ so how is that even cheaper than what he wants to do??? Are you going to pay most of it for him?

Ash Williams původně napsal:

Monk původně napsal:

Err what are you on about? How is a £600 CPU, a £300 motherboard and £2-400 on ram even comparable in price to a £200 CPU swap?, Hell even if he goes to a new 8tg gen it's still hundreds cheaper.

£200 CPU swap?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-4790K-Haswell-Refresh-Processor/dp/B00KPRWAX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517685636&sr=8-1&keywords=i7+4790k

Don't cherry pick. He can get them new from few retailers that still selling them for less than what's on Amazon, that's selling by 3rd party if you haven't notice. He can buy it used as well since CPU's are less likely have issue than any other hardware, basically you can run them 24/7 for years as long you keep them cool, and don't try to overclocking it stùpidly.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/6vzv6h/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k

Ash Williams původně napsal:

rezo původně napsal:

Why would I want a threadripper? They're not good for gaming and cost far more than what I intend on spending. The CPU alone is 600 pounds, let alone buying a new motherboard and more ram so I'm not sure what you mean by its the same price.

the CPU is a similar price. the 4790K is nearly 4 years old. If you're going to buy, then buy new architecture...

Again how would blowing £1070↑ for whole upgrade even similar to just switching CPU???

shiel původně napsal:

Ash Williams původně napsal:

the CPU is a similar price. the 4790K is nearly 4 years old. If you're going to buy, then buy new architecture...

Completely depends on where you buy it. Can get a used one for cheap.

MarioTwins původně napsal:

I paid 230 Canadian for my 4790k
Yea it was used. But there out there

Ugnak původně napsal:

MarioTwins původně napsal:

I paid 230 Canadian for my 4790k
Yea it was used. But there out there

Exactly, go on Kijiji or something. I luckily found a brand new Z90 mObo That was compatible with the i7 4790k

^These three are extacly correct.

Ash Williams původně napsal:

Ugnak původně napsal:

Exactly, go on Kijiji or something. I luckily found a brand new Z90 mObo That was compatible with the i7 4790k

Yeah a 4 year old used, possibly abused chip. Thanks but no thanks.

So you buying on behalf for him??? Because no one was even telling you what to get...

Monk původně napsal:

No one would suggest buying one new, and a threadripper would be a really bad choice anyway at that sort of price, the whole point of the CPU swap was / is for the op to save money.

^Extactly.

[vadim]

Ash Williams původně napsal:

the CPU is a similar price. the 4790K is nearly 4 years old. If you're going to buy, then buy new architecture...

In my country Threadripper 1920X costs more than a twice as much. What's the reason to pay sabout 3 times more (including new RAM+mobo) to get less FPS in nearly each and every game (and in some applications as well)? Threadripper is extremely niche product. Only those who really need to have 64 PCI-E lane instead of 20 (both numbers include PCH lanes) and cannot afford i9-7900x (it has 48 PCI-E lanes and costs about $150 more) should consider this CPU.
Words about "new architecture' make no sense. New doesn't mean better. You will never say "don't buy this 4 y.o. Lamborghini, buy brand new Volkswagen", right? Of course, Threadripper isn't Volkswagen, and it has many advantages over i7-4790k (more cores, DDR4 support, two dual channel RAM controllers), but at the same time it has many disadvantages (lower IPC, lower clockrate, inferior cache, big intercore delays, inability to maintain a unified memory architecture, lack of AVX/AVX2 support). Zen just cannot be scaled well over 8 cores. As a result, this CPU more looks as a joke for gaming. And for most other areas also...